2022 Draft Discussion (after the trade)

[kingsfan]

As long as we take a stab at a goalie somewhere I'm happy. No one in the system gives me any future starter vibes. Most don't even give me AHL/NHL tweener vibes.

 

[kilowatt]

As long as we take a stab at a goalie somewhere I'm happy. No one in the system gives me any future starter vibes. Most don't even give me AHL/NHL tweener vibes.

I'd rather try to trade for one. Maybe Askarov from Nashville? We've got the pieces to take a shot.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I don't feel like a goalie answer exists in this draft any more than it does internally.

Agree with @kilowatt that you're going to have to swing at someone else's blue chipper and it's gonna hurt.

 

[Lt Dan]

I don't feel like a goalie answer exists in this draft any more than it does internally.

Agree with @kilowatt that you're going to have to swing at someone else's blue chipper and it's gonna hurt.

I think we grab another Jones or Peterson, or fix another Keumper or Campbell.

 

[Lt Dan]

Thomas is my dark horse at camp this year.

This is definitely his time to shine. he's got the new shoulders, not he just needs to be Hungry, like a wolf!

 

[All The Kings Men]

I am doing that in reverse order

Get drunk (14 beers and some Southern Comfort) and then go on twitter and @All The Kings Men after each pick and tell him who I think they should draft, then he blocks me and I send carrier pigeons to his house with catchy phrases from 80's movies

“Sorry, Goose, but it's time to buzz the tower.”
“Snakes. Why’d it have to be snakes?”
“I always tell the truth. Even when I lie.”
"I am serious. And don't call me Shirley."
"Aw, this is the worst lookin' hat I ever saw! What, when you buy a hat like this, I bet you get a free bowl of soup, huh? Oh, it looks good on you, though."


then he gets an anti-aircraft system for my pigeons and I will start sending carrier possums
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I will even thrown in an O'possum just to keep him on his toes
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I don't block people and I like o'possums

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

I don't feel like a goalie answer exists in this draft any more than it does internally.

Agree with @kilowatt that you're going to have to swing at someone else's blue chipper and it's gonna hurt.

Agreed, the KIngs desperately need to address the top goalie prospect situation, but this draft isn't the place to do it unfortunately

 

[King'sPawn]

I don't feel like a goalie answer exists in this draft any more than it does internally.

Agree with @kilowatt that you're going to have to swing at someone else's blue chipper and it's gonna hurt.

Intrigued for the Kings to grab Hugo Havelid. He's undersized, but he backstopped Sweden to gold in the U-18, had best goalie recognition in the tourney, and put up very good numbers in the regular season.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Intrigued for the Kings to grab Hugo Havelid. He's undersized, but he backstopped Sweden to gold in the U-18, had best goalie recognition in the tourney, and put up very good numbers in the regular season.

I'm all for it, I ended up with him in a few mocks. There was an undersized MHL Russian I kept getting too, heh.

I just think they're all lottery tickets just like Parik or Ingham, there aren't any Wallstedts, Askarovs, Knights laying around here.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

This adds another layer as to reasons why teams might avoid drafting any Russians altogether.



He’s been arrested and detained because he signed with the Flyers. That country is f***ed.

 

[King'sPawn]

Curious observations about the CHL Import Draft:
- Adam Sykora taken 1st overall by Medicine Hat. I wonder if they're confident he'll come overseas sooner
- it was previously decided that, in response to Russia's attack on Ukraine, that Russians and Belarussians were ineligible. However, multiple Russians have been taken, including Miroshnichenko. As an aside, I disagree with the initial policy - the Russian and Belarussian kids shouldn't be punished for their country's policies and actions
- one player I was intrigued with was Tonas Hamara, an average-sized LD from Czech Republic. He was just taken by Kitchener in the first round, meaning he could be teammates with Kings prospect Francesco Pinelli.

 

[lumbergh]

This adds another layer as to reasons why teams might avoid drafting any Russians altogether.



He’s been arrested and detained because he signed with the Flyers. That country is f***ed.

Every team is gonna think twice about drafting a Russian after this.

 

[Fat Elvis]

Goalie Portillo from Buffalo could be available. Huge 6'6 playing for Michigan.

 

[kingsfan]

I'd rather try to trade for one. Maybe Askarov from Nashville? We've got the pieces to take a shot.

I'm trying to think of a time a team traded a goalie prospect for picks/futures (which is what I assume we'd offer) and that prospect actually doing something on the team he goes to. I have a feeling the only way teams dealing goalie prospects like Askarov is if they feel he'll be a bust anyway.

Interestingly, we did sign Buffalo's former top goaltending prospect (Peterson) when he decided to not sign with them.

 

[kingsfan]

Agreed, the KIngs desperately need to address the top goalie prospect situation, but this draft isn't the place to do it unfortunately

Drafting goalies is about as inaccurate of a science as there is in drafting. I'm fine with using a mid-round pick every draft until we have a couple of kids we're seriously excited about. A fair number of goalies come from the mid-to-late round picks anyway. I'd rather take a flyer on an athletic kid and hope he 'gets it' mentally for the position that gamble a first in hopes you get Vasilevsky and not Subban. Even Samasonov was considered about as safe of a bet for a goalie as there had been in some time and he's struggling to even be starter material right now.

 

[kilowatt]

I'm trying to think of a time a team traded a goalie prospect for picks/futures (which is what I assume we'd offer) and that prospect actually doing something on the team he goes to. I have a feeling the only way teams dealing goalie prospects like Askarov is if they feel he'll be a bust anyway.

Interestingly, we did sign Buffalo's former top goaltending prospect (Peterson) when he decided to not sign with them.

I’m not sure either, but Nashville has Saros (27) and Ingram (25), who are both pretty good goaltenders.

I guess historically I think of guys like Rask and maybe Schneider?

 

[Matt13]

Thomas is my dark horse at camp this year.

 

[kingsfan]

I’m not sure either, but Nashville has Saros (27) and Ingram (25), who are both pretty good goaltenders.

I guess historically I think of guys like Rask and maybe Schneider?

Good memory on those guys. Toronto Torontoing and Vancouver when they had the mega duo of Luongo ad Schneider.

I'd take a flyer on Ingram, I've liked him since his Tampa days though I assume Nashville would keep him unless it was a big overpayment as he should be an improvement over the trainwreck they had for backups last year. Saros needs more rest and they got badly exposed when he went down for the playoffs.

I've always liked Stolarz but no way Anaheim deals him to us.

There's really not a lot of options other than going homegrown it seems.

 

[King'sPawn]

So, something significant happening, not Kings related, is what's happening to Philadelphia goalie prospect Ivan Fedotov. He signed with the Flyers, expecting to compete for the backup role after winning the KHL championship.

However, CSKA Moscow is tied to the Russian army. The exact nature of the relationship isn't clear with what I've read and can understand in English.

Anyway, since trying to sign with the Flyers, he has allegedly been detained for being a military draft dodger, where he could face imprisonment. What's more is, since being detained, he has been hospitalized.

This is all related to the Kings, mostly because of a potential pick, Vladimir Grudinin, also plays for Moscow.

He's been ranked by some services as a top-50 talent, which puts him right around the Kings' first pick. But this recent development could lead to him falling.

I still wrote an article on the possibility of drafting him, because 1) the Kings drafted a Russian LD last season, so they could do it again, and 2) there is non-highlight video of him out there

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

So, something significant happening, not Kings related, is what's happening to Philadelphia goalie prospect Ivan Fedotov. He signed with the Flyers, expecting to compete for the backup role after winning the KHL championship.

However, CSKA Moscow is tied to the Russian army. The exact nature of the relationship isn't clear with what I've read and can understand in English.

Anyway, since trying to sign with the Flyers, he has allegedly been detained for being a military draft dodger, where he could face imprisonment. What's more is, since being detained, he has been hospitalized.

This is all related to the Kings, mostly because of a potential pick, Vladimir Grudinin, also plays for Moscow.

He's been ranked by some services as a top-50 talent, which puts him right around the Kings' first pick. But this recent development could lead to him falling.

I still wrote an article on the possibility of drafting him, because 1) the Kings drafted a Russian LD last season, so they could do it again, and 2) there is non-highlight video of him out there

KHL appearing to do anything it can to keep talent at home right now, especially with other teams pulling out of the league and foreign players leaving.

Shades of the 80s/90s, gonna be interesting seeing how late these guys get drafted and what happens next. Defections, like Mogilny?

 

[Cianide]

This adds another layer as to reasons why teams might avoid drafting any Russians altogether.



He’s been arrested and detained because he signed with the Flyers. That country is f***ed.

Must go bak to shelling ukraine city.

 

[LAKings88]

On @All The Kings Men, Yannetti basically said it’s too costly to move back into the first. Sounds like they could move into the low 40s if they see a target they want.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Damn good interview from @All The Kings Men with Mark Yannetti.


It's also funny to hear Yannetti sound like most of us as he's lamenting about some poor draft decisions, and calls out their draft blunder in 2011 when they selected Christopher Gibson ahead of Nikita Kucherov.

 

[King'sPawn]

Damn good interview from @All The Kings Men with Mark Yannetti.


It's also funny to hear Yannetti sound like most of us as he's lamenting about some poor draft decisions, and calls out their draft blunder in 2011 when they selected Christopher Gibson ahead of Nikita Kucherov.

Agreed. Very good interview by Jesse.

Yannetti and Lombardi are my two favorite listens.

 

[LAKings88]

Damn good interview from @All The Kings Men with Mark Yannetti.


It's also funny to hear Yannetti sound like most of us as he's lamenting about some poor draft decisions, and calls out their draft blunder in 2011 when they selected Christopher Gibson ahead of Nikita Kucherov.

Kucherov
Taresenko
Karlsson

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