2022 Draft Discussion (after the trade)

[Ziggy Stardust]

Kucherov
Taresenko
Karlsson

?

He actually goes into the whole Teubert miss as well, bringing up how they traded up, then moved down a spot and made a big miss.

See what happens when you get too cute and try to pick a need?

Yannetti also said if the best players available at the draft are right-handed defensemen, then that's who they'll pick.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Really interesting to hear how they were thinking of Fagemo with the previous year's 7th

 

[goosh]

Damn good interview from @All The Kings Men with Mark Yannetti.


It's also funny to hear Yannetti sound like most of us as he's lamenting about some poor draft decisions, and calls out their draft blunder in 2011 when they selected Christopher Gibson ahead of Nikita Kucherov.

This episode is a must-listen.

 

[kingsboy11]

Really interesting to hear how they were thinking of Fagemo with the previous year's 7th

Think I remember Yanetti or maybe it was Lombardi talking about taking Tanner Pearson in the 7th round in 2011, but they decided against it and wanted to challenge him. Worked out pretty well in the end.

 

[KopitarFAN]

I could listen to Yannetti talk draft philosophy, team building & player development for hours........is that weird?

 

[All The Kings Men]

I could listen to Yannetti talk draft philosophy, team building & player development for hours........is that weird?

No. No it isn't.

 

[kingsfan28]

Rutger McGroaty is a great hockey name!

 

[kingsfan28]

Really interesting to hear how they were thinking of Fagemo with the previous year's 7th

And the goalie they just missed on last year because you need a 1st to move up at all.

It took me a while to figure out who DL over ruled the entire staff on and took someone else, until I remembered the goalie Gibson. Interesting how he brought up the sekera trade too, and that it was a mistake to make that deal. It's like the more success they got, the worse the drafting went.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

And the goalie they just missed on last year because you need a 1st to move up at all.

It took me a while to figure out who DL over ruled the entire staff on and took someone else, until I remembered the goalie Gibson. Interesting how he brought up the sekera trade too, and that it was a mistake to make that deal. It's like the more success they got, the worse the drafting went.

Yannetti reiterated a lot of things that continue to fill these boards with anger. The Kings worst misses on draft day were all due to them drafting for need.

 

[Steve Zissou]

 

[King'sPawn]

Articles which came up today:

2022 NHL Draft Preview: Brad Lambert, Finnish Forward

mayorsmanor.com

2022 NHL Draft Preview: Vladimir Grudinin, Russian Defenseman

mayorsmanor.com

One more article from me will be coming out tomorrow.

Then, I'm pretty sure Hoven will have his own draft preview/predictions article as he usually does.

 

[kingsfan28]

Last night I dreamt I went back in time to the 2008 draft and showed DL the future stats from the players in the 1st round. He looked at Karlssons numbers and changed his mind. Then he asked me about Teubert...

 

[Peter James Bond II]

Thanks, Jesse. I guess some questions cannot be asked, like "did Faber just plan on playing out 4 years and signing with the Wild?"

Good interview, good job. I would have liked the question "can you give an update on the last years picks...and regarding Chromiak, if that draft was redone, would he go in round 1? In terms of where he's progressing, do you see him as a top 6 winger?"

I'd love to know his thoughts. Sounds like they may trade up to 40ish, if someone they covet is there.
But, as he said, someone they like will fall to 51. But again, it's like when they saw Pinelli falling and moved quickly to move up to get him.

 

[kingsfan28]

Yannetti reiterated a lot of things that continue to fill these boards with anger. The Kings worst misses on draft day were all due to them drafting for need.

I found this quote from Yannetti in 2020:

“I’ve run that draft over 10,000 times, I’ve run that draft over this month, just the scenarios, all the time,” Yannetti said, tormented still by the decision even though the Kings got Slava Voynov, another impact right-handed defenseman, in the second round.

“The procedure on that pick was wrong. Getting Voynov at 32 and Drew at two, there’s so much that was right. But the whole staff saw that 12th pick going wrong. … It should never have happened. There’s a lot of things that bother me about that draft.”

Sounds like he wasn't very happy with his bosses decisions in 2008.

 

[King'sPawn]

Hoven talked a bit on the latest KOTP about the draft strategy. A couple tidbits:
- he's confirming he'll post a pre-draft article
- he stated he believes there will be a change in strategy. This is contingent on deals being available, of course, but he feels the Kings will be trying to get more picks this year. Namely because the Kings have a deep cupboard of prospects, but in the next season or two, pieces will be moved away to try to get better, so they want to keep the prospects plentiful

 

[bland]

Yannetti reiterated a lot of things that continue to fill these boards with anger. The Kings worst misses on draft day were all due to them drafting for need.

As were their greatest successes.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

As were their greatest successes.

Such as? Doughty wasn’t a reach, he was easily the best player available, same goes for your two favorite players, Anze Kopitar and Dustin Brown. Is Derek Forbort considered a great success?

 

[All The Kings Men]

Such as? Doughty wasn’t a reach, he was easily the best player available, same goes for your two favorite players, Anze Kopitar and Dustin Brown. Is Derek Forbort considered a great success?

Nolan and King were name checked as home runs (which was my choice of phrasing) and plenty of people including certain city officials have a track record of minimizing the impact those players had on the Cup runs.

 

[kovacro]

I liked how Yannetti touched upon hitting home runs with Dwight King (4th round) and Jordan Nolan (7th round). They don't get drafted and in turn develop into solid roll players in 2012, it forces the Kings to go out and spend assets to find those type of players via trade. Those are wins regardless of what anyone thinks.

Also, without them, he mentions they get run out of the building against the Blues in 12'.

I believe he also had mentioned in the 5th round? when they have selected a player, that player has gone on to become an NHL player and/or play a certain number of games at a fairly high percentage. Anytime you can find useful guys that late, it's huge. Even as a 4th line/bottom pair defeseman. It doesn't have to be sexy, meat and potatoes players work too.

Good podcast to listen to.

 

[kingsfan28]

As were their greatest successes.

Such as? Hickey and Forbort were needs and not the bpa. Chris Gibson ring a bell?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Nolan and King were name checked as home runs (which was my choice of phrasing) and plenty of people including certain city officials have a track record of minimizing the impact those players had on the Cup runs.

I was more or less focusing on the first round selections where they were making selections based on need, which Yannetti seemed to indicate is where they made catastrophic mistakes.

 

[kingsfan28]

As were their greatest successes.

Such as? Hickey and Forbort were needs and not the bpa. Chris Gibson ring a bell?

Nolan and King were name checked as home runs (which was my choice of phrasing) and plenty of people including certain city officials have a track record of minimizing the impact those players had on the Cup runs.

Hahahaha...

So true.

 

[Jericho111091]

Such as? Hickey and Forbort were needs and not the bpa. Chris Gibson ring a bell?

Hickey was a swing for the fences that while not a home run turned into a solid player. Forbort was not a pick for need and on draft day was considered the best pick available and likely would have gone earlier had Fowler not dropped

 

[kingsfan28]

Hickey was a swing for the fences that while not a home run turned into a solid player. Forbort was not a pick for need and on draft day was considered the best pick available and likely would have gone earlier had Fowler not dropped

Drafted , Developed...Waived. DL waived the 4th overall pick in his first official draft [ 2006 he didn't have his staff in place].

 

[apadilla]

Hoping one of the big defensemen Noah Warren / Maveric Lamoureux are there at 51 or big forward Reid Schaefer.