Prospect Info: [2022 - 62nd] Lane Hutson (NCAA - Boston University)

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Kaiden Ghoul

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If only we had kept McDonagh. That will forever piss me off.

How could we forget the famous lethargy of Gomez betwen the 2010-2012. :naughty:

But i remember Camm and Gio saying that the Gomez trade definitely affected their decision on signing with Montreal in a interview on RDS
 
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How could we forget the famous lethargy of Gomez betwen the 2010-2012. :naughty:

But i remember Camm and Gio saying that the Gomez trade definitely affected their decision on signing with Montreal in a interview on RDS
Yeah, Montreal was desperate for a center. Had to overpay. Gainey had failed to acquire so many #1 centers. Sundin, Lecavalier, etc... He paid a first for Tanguay also. Who was a failure. That pick was going to be Carlson. Then we traded for Lang. Who tore his ACL after half a season and ended his career. It was one bad mishap after another. That team was close with the Kovalev-Koivu line.

That was bad trade but big build up to it. Gomez was big part of that 2010 run to Conference Finals way I look at it. We survived it.
 

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Yeah, Montreal was desperate for a center. Had to overpay. Gainey had failed to acquire so many #1 centers. Sundin, Lecavalier, etc... He paid a first for Tanguay also. Who was a failure. That pick was going to be Carlson. Then we traded for Lang. Who tore his ACL after half a season and ended his career. It was one bad mishap after another. That team was close with the Kovalev-Koivu line.

That was bad trade but big build up to it. Gomez was big part of that 2010 run to Conference Finals way I look at it. We survived it.

Yeah i guess he was the best option at that moment with Koivu on the decline but man :ha: it was like Forsberg for Erat. Its not like Gomez was s*** when we trade for him its just happen we got him on the decline and Mcdonagh,well… it was not Gainey fault, i will always remember that quote… vous etes rien que des est* de jaunes:laugh:
 
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Is it just me……. the way he shakes the hand of Hugo etc when he was drafted i got a lil Subban vibe, he look so grateful like Subban with Gainey
 
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If only we had kept McDonagh. That will forever piss me off.
Yeah, and Sergachev too. But then again we would not have some of the prospects we have now.

Things turn around fast in a cap league. Manage the cap well and opportunities will come.

Right now we have a crapload of great prospects, young guys learning fast in the NHL, a bunch of high picks with a real path for more, and we should have a ton of cap space within two years ($22m or so).

So forget about the significant mistakes the previous three GMs made, and move forward with a solid plan.
 
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Yeah i guess he was the best option at that moment with Koivu on the decline but man :ha: it was like Forsberg for Erat. Its not like Gomez was s*** when we trade for him its just happen we got him on the decline and Mcdonagh,well… it was not Gainey fault, i will always remember that quote… vous etes rien que des est* de jaunes:laugh:
The Gomez trade was an immediate response or fix to the fact that Kovalev was no longer able to be the team’s puck transporter on the power play. For the first couple of years that he was here, Gomez filled that roll admirably.
 

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Yeah, Montreal was desperate for a center. Had to overpay. Gainey had failed to acquire so many #1 centers. Sundin, Lecavalier, etc... He paid a first for Tanguay also. Who was a failure. That pick was going to be Carlson. Then we traded for Lang. Who tore his ACL after half a season and ended his career. It was one bad mishap after another. That team was close with the Kovalev-Koivu line.

That was bad trade but big build up to it. Gomez was big part of that 2010 run to Conference Finals way I look at it. We survived it.

They could have resigned their long time captain and heart and souls player, Saku Koivu, instead of trading a blue chip defense prospect for Gomez.

It’s not like Gomez was any better than Koivu.
 

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How could we forget the famous lethargy of Gomez betwen the 2010-2012. :naughty:

But i remember Camm and Gio saying that the Gomez trade definitely affected their decision on signing with Montreal in a interview on RDS
I remember them saying that also. Like very loud and clear. I will suggest they were asked to say that because The Gomez contract was very publicly discussed as the worst contract in hockey and everybody laughed at Sather and the Rangers. So when Gainey paid up to get him, there was horror in Hab land. It was one of those trades that you didn't need time to evaluate if it was good or bad, just time to evaluate how bad. I mean Gomez contract and a guy named Busto came back to us, if we didn't give up any assets it was a bad trade.
 

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How could we forget the famous lethargy of Gomez betwen the 2010-2012. :naughty:

But i remember Camm and Gio saying that the Gomez trade definitely affected their decision on signing with Montreal in a interview on RDS
It was a bad contract, but young Gomez had wheels and went to the dirty areas. He just didn’t age well. - and it’s the first time I remember cap conversations really taking off.

sry - hijacked a thread. I WATCHED A HUTSON HIGHLIGHT VID I SWEAR AFTER POSTING.

great moves, no Idea if it will translate.
 

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Yeah, Montreal was desperate for a center. Had to overpay. Gainey had failed to acquire so many #1 centers. Sundin, Lecavalier, etc... He paid a first for Tanguay also. Who was a failure. That pick was going to be Carlson. Then we traded for Lang. Who tore his ACL after half a season and ended his career. It was one bad mishap after another. That team was close with the Kovalev-Koivu line.

That was bad trade but big build up to it. Gomez was big part of that 2010 run to Conference Finals way I look at it. We survived it.
41 points in 50 games is a failure?

 

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They could have resigned their long time captain and heart and souls player, Saku Koivu, instead of trading a blue chip defense prospect for Gomez.

It’s not like Gomez was any better than Koivu.

I feel you i was sad a little when Koivu left, i swear man those freakin Hurricanes and Justin Williams, but a cancer 1 big eye injury and the rest, did he had really the choice ? :S

I remember them saying that also. Like very loud and clear. I will suggest they were asked to say that because The Gomez contract was very publicly discussed as the worst contract in hockey and everybody laughed at Sather and the Rangers. So when Gainey paid up to get him, there was horror in Hab land. It was one of those trades that you didn't need time to evaluate if it was good or bad, just time to evaluate how bad. I mean Gomez contract and a guy named Busto came back to us, if we didn't give up any assets it was a bad trade.

Didnt think of that thats not crazy…
 

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I remember them saying that also. Like very loud and clear. I will suggest they were asked to say that because The Gomez contract was very publicly discussed as the worst contract in hockey and everybody laughed at Sather and the Rangers. So when Gainey paid up to get him, there was horror in Hab land. It was one of those trades that you didn't need time to evaluate if it was good or bad, just time to evaluate how bad. I mean Gomez contract and a guy named Busto came back to us, if we didn't give up any assets it was a bad trade.
I still, remember the day of that trade; i was so furious against Gainey. Gomez was the worst contract of the NHL ...
A lot of fans hate the moves to get a local boy to satisfy the fans base. Gainey was in the same kind of situation; We had André Savard who was doing a good job , but our new owner wanted to give " more credibility " to the team.
Gainey was the manager of one of the richest teams before the salary cap era. I remember that time when all the best free agents were signed by NY Ranger or by the Stars. Gainey won one cup but once in the salary cap era, i consider he was a big failure.

All the mistakes he has done aka the lost of Beauchemin, the drafts selections he gave , the trade for Gomez, but to me the worst was all the free agents he let going without any return at all ; Koïvu, Tanguay, Kovalev, Souray , etc... Just imagine the return he could have had at the trade dead line instead of keeping all those players to let them go at the end of the season...

How big i used to love the player, but how big i hated him as the GM
 
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Yeah, Montreal was desperate for a center. Had to overpay. Gainey had failed to acquire so many #1 centers. Sundin, Lecavalier, etc... He paid a first for Tanguay also. Who was a failure. That pick was going to be Carlson. Then we traded for Lang. Who tore his ACL after half a season and ended his career. It was one bad mishap after another. That team was close with the Kovalev-Koivu line.

That was bad trade but big build up to it. Gomez was big part of that 2010 run to Conference Finals way I look at it. We survived it.
It's nonsensical to say stuff like this ("that pick could have been [...]"), especially when we're talking a late 1st round pick. Tanguay had a good year with us, and was worth the 1st round pick we paid for him. Never, ever, judge a trade by whom was drafted with said draft pick, because there's no guarantee the team makes the same pick.

Also, that pick was actually used on Nemisz, not Carlson, and it would have been extremely surprising for the Habs to draft a d-man (after drafting McDonagh and Subban the year before, and having a strong need at center), had they kept the pick. So, the pick could have, just as much, actually been Nemisz, Leveillé, Deschamps, McRae, etc. All players who went on to have fantastic NHL careers.
 

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It's nonsensical to say stuff like this ("that pick could have been [...]"), especially when we're talking a late 1st round pick. Tanguay had a good year with us, and was worth the 1st round pick we paid for him. Never, ever, judge a trade by whom was drafted with said draft pick, because there's no guarantee the team makes the same pick.

Also, that pick was actually used on Nemisz, not Carlson, and it would have been extremely surprising for the Habs to draft a d-man (after drafting McDonagh and Subban the year before, and having a strong need at center), had they kept the pick. So, the pick could have, just as much, actually been Nemisz, Leveillé, Deschamps, McRae, etc. All players who went on to have fantastic NHL careers.
I remember Timmins is on record saying that was his pick at the time and he was so mad Gainey traded it before talking to him.
 

Kairi Zaide

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I remember Timmins is on record saying that was his pick at the time and he was so mad Gainey traded it before talking to him.
I personally always take those with a grain of salt, but I could see it since Timmins did have an obsession with college players.

But in the end, Gainey would be the one to make the pick, and teams often go for a mix of BPA + needs starting towards the end of the 1st round (where there's really not much separation between players).
 

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I still, remember the day of that trade; i was so furious against Gainey. Gomez was the worst contract of the NHL ...
A lot of fans hate the moves to get a local boy to satisfy the fans base. Gainey was in the same kind of situation; We had André Savard who was doing a good job , but our new owner wanted to give " more credibility " to the team.
Gainey was the manager of one of the richest teams before the salary cap era. I remember that time when all the best free agents were signed by NY Ranger or by the Stars. Gainey won one cup but once in the salary cap era, i consider he was a big failure.

All the mistakes he has done aka the lost of Beauchemin, the drafts selections he gave , the trade for Gomez, but to me the worst was all the free agents he let going without any return at all ; Koïvu, Tanguay, Kovalev, Souray , etc... Just imagine the return he could have had at the trade dead line instead of keeping all those players to let them go at the end of the season...

How big i used to love the player, but how big i hated him as the GM
So glad I’m not the only one who felt the exact same way.

Great person and player, but he was a terrible GM - even before his family tragedy.

Mind you not Bozovin and Foule level, but bad nonetheless
 
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