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Speculation: 2022-23 Sharks Roster Discussion Part II

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Where are you expecting Bordeleau, Eklund and Robins to fit in next season?

I'm thinking Bordeleau and Eklund play in the NHL. On a top 6 role? Centre?

Robins get a few games?

Also curious about Guschsin and Raska but they seem further away from the NHL
 
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De Montreal said:
Where are you expecting Bordeleau, Eklund and Robins to fit in next season?

I'm thinking Bordeleau and Eklund play in the NHL. On a top 6 role? Centre?

Robins get a few games?

Also curious about Guschsin and Raska but they seem further away from the NHL
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I think we expect most, if not all, to get a game here or there this season. They're unlikely to break up the Cuda this year, so they will probably play most of the season down there, barring significant injuries on the Sharks. It also depends what happens with Meier, as that leaves a huge hole on the team. I honestly don't even know which one would get called up first, as it all depends on who they're coming up to replace, but Eklund should be the top dog to call up for a top-6 spot.

We have a glaring hole at 3C, and it would be awesome if Bordeleau or Robins could take it, but we also are in no rush to bring them up with how bad the Sharks are. By next season, we'd hope 2/3 of Eklund, Bordeleau, and Robins are with the big team on regular roles though. Guschin is a weird one, because he'll need top-9 minutes to really thrive with what he does. Raska could step up any night and play 4th line.
 
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Watched some clips of Eeli Tolvanen, I gotta say that his shot being his thing could be just what Sharks want to get. If Quinn gives him a chance to play with shoot first mentality and offensive zone/pp starts he could blossom into a good sniper for us. This all if he is available and picked up by the San Jose Sharks.

EDIT: Great thing about this waiver pick is that it isn't necessary the best player ever, so it gives Sharks a pretty okay chance to pick him up.
 
I think we can use LTIR if we needed to (as long as Nuttivara never gets healthy), but otherwise we straight-up don't have the cap space without trading someone making as much or more (like Lindblom or Bonino).
 
Cas said:
I think we can use LTIR if we needed to (as long as Nuttivara never gets healthy), but otherwise we straight-up don't have the cap space without trading someone making as much or more (like Lindblom or Bonino).
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Sharks are already in LTIR and could claim Tolvanen without making any additional moves. It would just be pointless to do so.
 
Hodge said:
Sharks are already in LTIR and could claim Tolvanen without making any additional moves. It would just be pointless to do so.
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Why would it be pointless to claim him? Isn't this a type of player a team in our position absolutely should take a gamble on?
 
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I think we’re already set in the overpaid fourth line winger department.
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It's a low risk, high-reward move that we can pull it off financially. If it doesn't work, we waive him too, just like we did with Dzingel last year or whenever.

But, if the change of scenery works, he either is A) trade bait for literally anything, or B) someone to help the franchise next year. Aren't we always talking about having cap space to do these things?
 
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It's a low risk, high-reward move that we can pull it off financially. If it doesn't work, we waive him too, just like we did with Dzingel last year or whenever.

But, if the change of scenery works, he either is A) trade bait for literally anything, or B) someone to help the franchise next year. Aren't we always talking about having cap space to do these things?
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The difference is Dzingel was on an expiring deal with a cap hit that could be fully buried in the minors. Tolvanen is signed through 2024 for $1.45M/year. It's a bad bet.
 
As someone who hardly ever watches Nashville, is Tolvanen actually decent? Or is this just another case of overrating someone because of their draft pedigree? Looking over his stats in the AHL and NHL, seems like someone who might top out as an average third liner?
 
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WTFetus said:
As someone who hardly ever watches Nashville, is Tolvanen actually decent? Or is this just another case of overrating someone because of their draft pedigree? Looking over his stats in the AHL and NHL, seems like someone who might top out as an average third liner?
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Tolvanen has decent tools. His shot is definitely his best attribute. It’s also definitely one of those overrating because of draft pedigree but he also had some decent success overseas. From what I’ve seen Tolvanen has mostly been relegated to fourth line duties in the NHL and hasn’t had the best linemates in the AHL.

For the record, if we were trading for him I might move Merkley for him (or another struggling prospect that just can’t seem to stick) but that would be about it. It’s definitely a case of taking a chance on a former first rounder that had some success overseas and is still only 23 but has not shown much in NA yet.
 
Normally by age 23 you'd hope to see more from someone who went in Round 1 and played well before coming to NA. By the end of this season he'll be 24 and then 25 when his contract is up. Considering he is making 1.5M it is a little risky for a fringe guy.

Normally I would be all for it, considering there is upside there, but when we already have fringe guys like Lorentz making this money to barely play for us, I'm not sure we're the team for him.
 
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Normally by age 23 you'd hope to see more from someone who went in Round 1 and played well before coming to NA. By the end of this season he'll be 24 and then 25 when his contract is up. Considering he is making 1.5M it is a little risky for a fringe guy.

Normally I would be all for it, considering there is upside there, but when we already have fringe guys like Lorentz making this money to barely play for us, I'm not sure we're the team for him.
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We no longer have the space with Suess, Cicek and Svechnikov recalled so looks like Grier agrees with you.
 
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