Speculation: 2022-23 Sharks Roster Discussion Part II
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You said "it was only 1 player when it to the Blackhawks controversy"
There were multiple victims in that case.
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Whole story is super weird to me...I have to imagine something was lost in translation either to Kaut, to the media, or both. I don't know why he would make it up because what does he stand to gain from this story? The stuff he said about the national team and him apparently talking poorly about the Avs after he left certainly doesn't help his argument that it's true...especially with the added nugget of blaming his refusal to fight as to the reason he never made it to the NHL: "that's why you aren't in the NHL". I don't know that he made it up, but something just feels "off" about the whole thing from Kaut.
I also don't see why the Sharks would flat out lie with the strongly worded statement they put out in response. Yes, the league is trying to get away from fighting and putting a bigger focus on player safety (concussions) but the fallout from lying about it, assuming more players confirmed the story, would be far worse than the media attention that came from the original story...especially at this point of the offseason when there is nothing interesting going on.
If you google it, there are hardly any websites that reported on it and of the ones that did, none of them are very big. Outside of the 2-3 days the story was developing, the only place I've seen anything about it has been here or Sharks specific twitter accounts. We had some pretty big drama with Kane for a while there and the team was always pretty neutral in their response to it all saying they wanted to investigate, or wait for the league to investigate, etc.
Only other example I can think of was the Wilson/Thornton drama but even that wasn't a huge deal in the end and Wilson is gone.
I'll give Grier/the team the benefit of the doubt until I'm proven otherwise.
Edit: This is vastly different than the Blackhawks situation so not sure why that was even brought up or is even being discussed here.
I also don't see why the Sharks would flat out lie with the strongly worded statement they put out in response. Yes, the league is trying to get away from fighting and putting a bigger focus on player safety (concussions) but the fallout from lying about it, assuming more players confirmed the story, would be far worse than the media attention that came from the original story...especially at this point of the offseason when there is nothing interesting going on.
If you google it, there are hardly any websites that reported on it and of the ones that did, none of them are very big. Outside of the 2-3 days the story was developing, the only place I've seen anything about it has been here or Sharks specific twitter accounts. We had some pretty big drama with Kane for a while there and the team was always pretty neutral in their response to it all saying they wanted to investigate, or wait for the league to investigate, etc.
Only other example I can think of was the Wilson/Thornton drama but even that wasn't a huge deal in the end and Wilson is gone.
I'll give Grier/the team the benefit of the doubt until I'm proven otherwise.
Edit: This is vastly different than the Blackhawks situation so not sure why that was even brought up or is even being discussed here.
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I can't wait to use "Benefit of the Kaut" in context.
EDIT: I guess the context would be someone not wanting to fight when engaged by another player? Not doing what management asks when that ask seem particularly absurd?
EDIT: I guess the context would be someone not wanting to fight when engaged by another player? Not doing what management asks when that ask seem particularly absurd?
Ok if it is like you said and there were multiple victims in that case, it still does not change the fact that nobody spoke up about the injustices towards the player or players that were victims. In a much worse type of case, so why do you believe the players would jump onto kauts case to help him in this situation?
The reports on the Hawks case, states that the activities by the coach was an organizational open secret.
And this hush hush by the entire organization lead to the coach going to a highschool and doing the same thing and even a possible university to.
Reading the Kraut news, I get the impression he's a guy having trouble coming to grips with his NHL career not being what he expected.
Erik Karlsson to the Penguins? What I'm hearing about a potential trade
It is suggested that Marcus Pettersson is a target of the Sharks but the Pens don’t want to give him up. I wanted him as a partner for EK when the sharks were trying to compete.
I like him as a player but this team really doesn’t need any more LD.
It is suggested that Marcus Pettersson is a target of the Sharks but the Pens don’t want to give him up. I wanted him as a partner for EK when the sharks were trying to compete.
I like him as a player but this team really doesn’t need any more LD.
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We have a lot of LD but we don’t have any who are nearly as good as Pettersson. I remember wanting to trade Labanc for him 2 years ago but that ship has obviously sailed. Vlasic, Simek and Knyzhov shouldn’t be in our long term plans and IMO neither should Ferraro.
Pettersson’s on a great contract too so we could probably get a decent return for him at one of the next two deadlines if he’s not in our long term plans. I could see him being a good top four defenseman through his early to mid 30s though, seems like he really found his game over the past few seasons.
That same Athletic article mentioned that Letang would still anchor their top pair. I see them falling into the exact same trap the Sharks did when they acquired EK.
EK is not a second pairing defenseman and thrives with a system designed around his strengths.
I still think that DW made a mistake trading for EK only to play Burns ahead of him and run a system that didn’t highlight his strengths.
You don’t trade for the (at the time) best defensemen in the league only to play him second pairing minutes.
You trade for him, make him captain and build around him which they should have done when the resigned him.
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PacificOceanPotion
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The best chance to get to the best team…I mean, in theory that’s Carolina and not Pitt. Of the teams not mentioned, I’d probably have to think a team like TB or EDM if he wants to be in the west.
I really don’t care who gives him the best chance at winning. I honestly think that’s Seattle. I just want a deal done even if it’s a bad one.
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Very unusual and drawn-out process. Why is it always the Sharks doing this?
PacificOceanPotion
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For fans is sucks, for the orgs involved it’s probably smarter to cover all your bases and get the best deal possible. Only one shot at this.
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DW probably spent as much time or more on trades, we just had no idea the pro-cess had begun
And then he'd shock drop a blockbuster trade outta nowhere
And then he'd shock drop a blockbuster trade outta nowhere
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We also have not been in the position of having our best player on the team wanting out. One of the things that made Thornton so great for this franchise. To his own detriment.
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