Whether or not it is logical, just drafted players basically never get traded. It is just how it is.
The good old Doug Wilson 1st round pick hehe, and for the same player. That would make the circle complete.
Yes the 2024 pick may fall under the 10th spot. Differing it to 2025. That usually takes away any protections. Which of course means the 2025 pick is also pushed back
Doug Wilson was indeed GM when he traded an unprotected 1st round pick for Erik Karlsson that ended up being Tim Stutzle.
I think Martin Jones gets really underrated around here because of the way things ended. He was pretty good on the first year or two he was with the team, average for a year or two, and then bad.
Sure but he wasn’t worth an unprotected 1st from a team that had just missed the playoffs.
I’d argue he was. Pretty easily. He had fantastic stats on LA. Sharks had injury issues in 2014-15 season. AND their biggest issue was goaltending which they fixed.
Not for an unprotected first. Goaltending is very important no doubt. Context has to be added to a lot of DW’s moves toward the middle and end of his tenure. He was trying to bring a cup to San Jose at all costs. Quite literally.
Very few players are worth an unprotected 1st round pick, especially from a team that isn't a playoff lock. That was an incredibly risky move that looked on track to cost us a top 5 pick midway through the 2015-16 season.
It also shows how well Grier did in the Meier trade. Also that Meier contract seems a lot worse after the deal Debrincat got.
Considering Meier is probably 2x better than DeBrincat, not at all.
Considering Debrincat is a year away from being traded for a top 10 pick, an early 2nd and 3rd I think the argument Meier is twice as valuable of a trade asset is not accurate.
I was referring to the contract, not the trade. Grier did fine and I think the sens did fine as well. The Meier contract is a steal.
The DeBrincat contract is significantly more team friendly than the Meier contract. Detroit has DeBrincat signed from age 25-29. There is effectively zero risk of age related decline. Timo will be 34 when his contract expires.
But Timo is the better player by far, so if length is the only issue you have for a lot of things, that's no big deal. 5 good years of Timo with 3 bad ones (I don't think this will happen) is still better than 4 years of DeBrincat + whatever after. Cap should be up 8m+ by then.
I don't think it is better. The risk of paying 9 million against the cap for a guy who might only be a 50ish point player in the final few years of the contract offsets some of the benefit of the earlier years. Any team would rather have Meier in a vacuum but the value of the contracts is very different.
Not to mention how Meier struggled as a fit with NJ for the 20+ games he played. He scored at a 54 point pace in those games. Granted he is more talented and adjusting to a new team and system but he also could have had his numbers inflated in SJ getting 1st line minutes with a Norris winning defenseman to pass him the puck.
Fun top 6! Would love to move everyone except Eklund at the TDL! (And I legit enjoy all these players)
is eklund really ready for top 6 min? would it not be better to have eklund on 3rd line then let petersson play in top 6
