Speculation: 2022-23 Sharks Roster Discussion Part II

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SjMilhouse

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And it's not like there are any comparable defensemen to Karlsson available on the UFA market with Severson off the board. You would also think the venn diagram of teams interested in Brett Pesce and teams interested in Erik Karlsson has little to no overlap.

Still, if I had to guess what's going on it's that Hasso and Jonathan Becher don't want to retain more than ~$3M on Karlsson because any more would signal to the fanbase, STHs and sponsors that the Sharks don't intend to seriously compete for the next 4 years. Even though that should already be obvious to anyone paying attention.
I dont disagree but if any fan thinks this team is going to seriously compete in the next 3-4 years I don't they would have the required critical thinking skills to suddenly change their mind due to the amount we retain on Karlsson.

STH maybe
 

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I see no way he's this good again.
Considering how bad the team around him was, he could decline somewhat and still be massive for another (better) team. I feel like Burns' uptick this past season with Carolina should be a major selling point for Grier as he tries to peddle Karlsson.
 

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Would be nice if MGGM could get an EK trade wrapped up sooner rather than later so I don’t have to keep waiting and watching for something to happen :laugh:
Yeah. Prior to the draft in addition to the Sharks board I was reading Ducks, Habs and Blue Jackets' draft threads too, along with the Michkov thread in the Draft section. I need a chance to relax already, damn.
 
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Potential Sharks roster forward construction for near future if our 3 picks from '23 pan out the way they can.

Eklund - Smith - Musty
Couture - Bystedt/Hertl - Halttunen
Peterson - Hertl/Bystedt - Gusch (Hertl could be 2C still if Bystedt is more of a 3C)
Lorentz - Sturm/4C - Zetterlund

There is so many options, I think Sharks draft a top defencemen next year.

It's getting crazy because if Halttunen becomes a NHL player, you can either make a crazy big line with Musty - Bystedt - Halttunen (BIG) or you separate them, Musty and Halttunen on two different lines. I love how the dynamics of this team changed so drastically with one draft.

With defence I see a bright light also,
Mukhamadullin - RD
Thrun - Hävelid/Laroque
Cagnoni - defensive RD (EDIT)

Goalies are random always, but hopefully Mäkiniemi can become 1B

EDIT: I remembered wrong that Cagnoni is rightie, he is LD.
 
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Potential Sharks roster forward construction for near future if our 3 picks from '23 pan out the way they can.

Eklund - Smith - Musty
Couture - Bystedt/Hertl - Halttunen
Peterson - Hertl/Bystedt - Gusch (Hertl could be 2C still if Bystedt is more of a 3C)
Lorentz - Sturm/4C - Zetterlund

There is so many options, I think Sharks draft a top defencemen next year.

It's getting crazy because if Halttunen becomes a NHL player, you can either make a crazy big line with Musty - Bystedt - Halttunen (BIG) or you separate them, Musty and Halttunen on two different lines. I love how the dynamics of this team changed so drastically with one draft.

With defence I see a bright light also,
Mukhamadullin - RD
Thrun - Hävelid/Laroque
Cagnoni - defensive RD (EDIT)

Goalies are random always, but hopefully Mäkiniemi can become 1B

EDIT: I remembered wrong that Cagnoni is rightie, he is LD.
There's still potential in the 2020 forwards like Robins and Bordeleau and Coe but if they hit, they might be better off used as trade currency to find the true Karlsson replacement or legit starting goalie.
 

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There's still potential in the 2020 forwards like Robins and Bordeleau and Coe but if they hit, they might be better off used as trade currency to find the true Karlsson replacement or legit starting goalie.
I was incredibly high on Bordeleau for a long time but now that Smith and Musty are in, I kinda see how slim Sharks were really on prospects. Bordeleau could make a case for 3rd line C, but the competition is getting tighter for those spots.
 

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Potential Sharks roster forward construction for near future if our 3 picks from '23 pan out the way they can.

Eklund - Smith - Musty
Couture - Bystedt/Hertl - Halttunen
Peterson - Hertl/Bystedt - Gusch (Hertl could be 2C still if Bystedt is more of a 3C)
Lorentz - Sturm/4C - Zetterlund

There is so many options, I think Sharks draft a top defencemen next year.

It's getting crazy because if Halttunen becomes a NHL player, you can either make a crazy big line with Musty - Bystedt - Halttunen (BIG) or you separate them, Musty and Halttunen on two different lines. I love how the dynamics of this team changed so drastically with one draft.

With defence I see a bright light also,
Mukhamadullin - RD
Thrun - Hävelid/Laroque
Cagnoni - defensive RD (EDIT)

Goalies are random always, but hopefully Mäkiniemi can become 1B

EDIT: I remembered wrong that Cagnoni is rightie, he is LD.
I like Cagnoni-Landen as a pair. They fit each other pretty well. I actually think a Musty-Smith-Halttunen line would fit VERY well together too. It’s funny because I think we have groups of prospects that feel like they work together. Obviously things can and will change when actually on the ice (see Vlasic Karlsson pairing) but this draft really changed our future. I see 4 guys who could be good/great NHLers and then a few more that could be pretty good role players. Honestly if all development plans out (it won’t obviously or at least shouldn’t be expected to) this could be a short (ish) rebuild.
 

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I like Cagnoni-Landen as a pair. They fit each other pretty well. I actually think a Musty-Smith-Halttunen line would fit VERY well together too. It’s funny because I think we have groups of prospects that feel like they work together. Obviously things can and will change when actually on the ice (see Vlasic Karlsson pairing) but this draft really changed our future. I see 4 guys who could be good/great NHLers and then a few more that could be pretty good role players. Honestly if all development plans out (it won’t obviously or at least shouldn’t be expected to) this could be a short (ish) rebuild.
Uuu that's quite interesting, I like it.
If in 2-3 years there is a line of Musty-Smith-Halttunen ('23 line) and Cagnoni - Landen ('23 pair) and they work out, this draft will be viewed as the most important individual draft in years. Can't wait to see the result in couple of years.
 

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Uuu that's quite interesting, I like it.
If in 2-3 years there is a line of Musty-Smith-Halttunen ('23 line) and Cagnoni - Landen ('23 pair) and they work out, this draft will be viewed as the most important individual draft in years. Can't wait to see the result in couple of years.
It'd be pretty shocking to have five draft picks work out from the same year. I really only have expectations for Smith being so high up in the draft.
 

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It'd be pretty shocking to have five draft picks work out from the same year. I really only have expectations for Smith being so high up in the draft.
Yep, that's realistic. I think this is just because of a little draft hangover and the picks where the liquid. Time will tell, but I'll keep the hopes up.
 
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Yeah, if Musty and Smith alone work out the way they can, this draft will still be wildly successful. But looking at our prospect list now over two days ago — the difference is STARK.

In terms of free agents, I’d like the sharks to look at guys on one year deals that can be flipped at free agency. Seems like we have a few open winger slots so I would start there.

Yeah, I think it’s like:

Eklund - Hertl - FA
FA - Couture - Barabanov
Peterson - Sturm - Labanc
Gregor - Lorentz - Zetterlund

I guess we’ll see which RFAs we sign too.
 

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Yep, that's realistic. I think this is just because of a little draft hangover and the picks where the liquid. Time will tell, but I'll keep the hopes up.
Sharks have been so bad at drafting this last decade. I be super happy even if just Smith becomes a real top 6 forward. Timo in 2015, Hertl in 2012, Couture in 2007 (Norris in 17), thats really how few top 6 players the Sharks have drafted in like last 16 years that have helped the team haha
 

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Yeah, if Musty and Smith alone work out the way they can, this draft will still be wildly successful. But looking at our prospect list now over two days ago — the difference is STARK.



Yeah, I think it’s like:

Eklund - Hertl - FA
FA - Couture - Barabanov
Peterson - Sturm - Labanc
Gregor - Lorentz - Zetterlund

I guess we’ll see which RFAs we sign too.
I know it's unrealistic and not in our timeline but I would to see Bertuzzi in teal.
 

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Yeah, if Musty and Smith alone work out the way they can, this draft will still be wildly successful. But looking at our prospect list now over two days ago — the difference is STARK.



Yeah, I think it’s like:

Eklund - Hertl - FA
FA - Couture - Barabanov
Peterson - Sturm - Labanc
Gregor - Lorentz - Zetterlund

I guess we’ll see which RFAs we sign too.
I just wanted them to bridge Zetterlund just for trade value. He seems very replaceable but I bet he could land a 2nd/3rd rounder.
 

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I imagine Zetterlund gets a deal and gets opportunities to succeed next year. Hopefully we see what the Devils fans saw.
Of course I hope he does. Either way super happy with Mukhamadullin and Musty. Trade looks a little better now
 
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It'd be pretty shocking to have five draft picks work out from the same year. I really only have expectations for Smith being so high up in the draft.
I’d agree but I think having the 3 forwards work out isn’t unrealistic. Cagnoni-Landen are a bit further off and I don’t think they’d be above third pair.
 

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Last year was just dipping their toes in the water of suck right? Because seems like this next year will actively try and be worse. Same team ish minus EK and maybe one of Hertl/ Couture
 
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If the current prospects hit these are the lines I like.
Eklund - Smith - Halttunen
Musty - Bystedt - Lund/Gushchin

Although in a perfect world it would look like

Eklund - Smith - Halttunen
Lund/Gushchin - Celebrini - Hertl
Musty - Bystedt - Lund/Gushchin

Great mix of size, playmaking, snipers on each line.
 
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