Speculation: 2022-23 Sharks Roster Discussion Part II

[TheBeard]

What about Hertl at 50% + 26 for 3?

Draft Carlsson/Fantilli then trade back with MTL 4 for 5 + 31 and draft Michkov.

Carlsson and Michkov from a single draft is a dream.

I don't know why any of the teams involved would do it.

 

[OrrNumber4]

What about Hertl at 50% + 26 for 3?

Draft Carlsson/Fantilli then trade back with MTL 4 for 5 + 31 and draft Michkov.

Carlsson and Michkov from a single draft is a dream.

You're asking the Sharks to pay 28 million over 4 years and lose a good player just to move up from the late first to #3?

 

[STL Shark]

You're asking the Sharks to pay 28 million over 4 years and lose a good player just to move up from the late first to #3?

Even worse, it is $28M over 7 years.

 

[Celly4Celebrini]

interesting. definitely drop to 7 if we truely do want leonard

 

[Hodge]

interesting. definitely drop to 7 if we truely do want leonard

That would be a pretty big overpay by Philly. I'd do it as long as Fantilli and Carlsson are off the board.

 

[TheBeard]

interesting. definitely drop to 7 if we truely do want leonard

I would do 7 and 22 for sure. Imagine having 7,22,26,36 in this draft!

Hell, imagine swapping with Montreal to get 31 and then trading 5 for 7.

7,22,26,31,36

Crazy

 

[Internazionale]

Konecky plus 7 and 22 for 4? Hmmmm. Nashville trying to get into top 4 as well. I'm sure Grier's phone is off the hook.

 

[mogambomoroo]

I feel like it's time to work on the phone with Montreal for that extra 31 pick for swapping 4 to 5.
I like Philly 7 & 22 too, but let's see.

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

I'd do the Philly 7 + 22 and take Benson

 

[TheBeard]

I will say, a part of me worries that 15 years down the road, when Michkov has his tenth consecutive 50 goal season, if we let another one get away.

 

[gaucholoco3]

You're asking the Sharks to pay 28 million over 4 years and lose a good player just to move up from the late first to #3?

No it’s paying $28 million in retention to move from 26 to 3. Then the sharks would have 3 and 4.

Columbus gets a 1/2 C at $4 million for them to compete now.

Sharks would have $4 in dead cap for 7 years but with not competing for 3 years and then cap increases it shouldn’t hurt the sharks much.

I hope with all these teams talking about getting into the top 5 to draft Michkov either Grier creates a bidding war and gets 6 and 12 for 4 or he smarts up and realizes Michkov is the correct pick in the first place and just takes him at 4.

 

[gaucholoco3]

The only reason to move down to 7 is to get value and still draft Michkov.

Having a top 4 pick they should grab one of Fantilli/Carlsson/Michkov. The drop off after those 3 is huge. Otherwise what was the point of losing all those games.

 

[mogambomoroo]

If you get a good interview with Michkov and Sharks are sure he is going to be the future, then draft him by all means. But I think the depth of this draft is a good reason to have as many picks as you can in the 1st round and having more chances to draft a solid group. Easily could see this draft being the one of the more important ones once we are in the playoff picture again.

 

[OrrNumber4]

No it’s paying $28 million in retention to move from 26 to 3. Then the sharks would have 3 and 4.

Columbus gets a 1/2 C at $4 million for them to compete now.

Sharks would have $4 in dead cap for 7 years but with not competing for 3 years and then cap increases it shouldn’t hurt the sharks much.

I hope with all these teams talking about getting into the top 5 to draft Michkov either Grier creates a bidding war and gets 6 and 12 for 4 or he smarts up and realizes Michkov is the correct pick in the first place and just takes him at 4.

For some reason, I put 4 years instead of 7, but in any case, you're asking to retain 28 million over 7 years in order to move from the late first to the #3. That's a giant ask of Plattner. More than anything, you also tie up a contract retention slot for 7 years.

 

[themelkman]

The MTL swap makes easily the most sense because you still get Smith. 7th wouldnt be so bad but I am so scared of Grier taking Reinbacher and just wasting a top ten pick

 

[mogambomoroo]

So many mock drafts have Sharks taking Hrabal #26, I'm not a fan of that pick at that position.
I'm okay with #36 pick but at #26 you get best player available or the best defencemen, there could be a lot of potential players sliding in that area.

 

[Grinner]

Select Leonard at 7
Ritchie at 22

 

[Sharkz4Fun]

Select Leonard at 7
Ritchie at 22

They'd still have their 4 OA, correct? If Leonard is the best player they come out of this draft with Grier shouldn't even be fired, he should be banned from holding a hockey position for life.

 

[Grinner]

They'd still have their 4 OA, correct? If Leonard is the best player they come out of this draft with Grier shouldn't even be fired, he should be banned from holding a hockey position for life.

No, we'd would have traded it to Philly

 

[Hodge]

They'd still have their 4 OA, correct? If Leonard is the best player they come out of this draft with Grier shouldn't even be fired, he should be banned from holding a hockey position for life.

Is Leonard really any worse than Smith?

 

[Sharkz4Fun]

No, we'd would have traded it to Philly

If they finish their most pathetic season in history with not even the best player of the second tier that would be absolutely heartbreaking.

Is Leonard really any worse than Smith?

Couple steps below Smith, but Smith is like 5 steps below Michkov and 2 or 3 behind Carlsson/Fantilli. I'd rather have Grier just trade the pick for a 23 Y/O current NHLer or something if they were to get 7. I don't see why the organization wouldn't learn from the mistake of drafting his brother. Would make absolutely no sense. MG shouldn't move this pick until it's on the clock.

 

[Grinner]

If they finish their most pathetic season in history with not even the best player of the second tier that would be absolutely heartbreaking.


Couple steps below Smith, but Smith is like 5 steps below Michkov and 2 or 3 behind Carlsson/Fantilli. I'd rather have Grier just trade the pick for a 23 Y/O current NHLer or something if they were to get 7. I don't see why the organization wouldn't learn from the mistake of drafting his brother. Would make absolutely no sense. MG shouldn't move this pick until it's on the clock.

Absolutely the Sharks don't make any trade until are on the clock

 

[Hodge]

If they finish their most pathetic season in history with not even the best player of the second tier that would be absolutely heartbreaking.


Couple steps below Smith, but Smith is like 5 steps below Michkov and 2 or 3 behind Carlsson/Fantilli. I'd rather have Grier just trade the pick for a 23 Y/O current NHLer or something if they were to get 7. I don't see why the organization wouldn't learn from the mistake of drafting his brother. Would make absolutely no sense. MG shouldn't move this pick until it's on the clock.

They definitely shouldn’t do anything with #4 until the Jackets pick is in. It doesn’t sound like Ryan Leonard plays anything like his brother. He has the potential to have a Dustin Brown type of career which IMO is a great outcome at #4 or #7 in any draft.

 

[Sharkz4Fun]

They definitely shouldn’t do anything with #4 until the Jackets pick is in. It doesn’t sound like Ryan Leonard plays anything like his brother. He has the potential to have a Dustin Brown type of career which IMO is a great outcome at #4 or #7 in any draft.

If Dustin Brown is the peak of what the Sharks come away with this year, it might be another 10 years until we see hockey in May.

 

[TheWayToRefJose]

Is Leonard really any worse than Smith?

Yes. Leonard is more of a 2nd line grinder potential while Smith does have legit top line potential.