I think Bords still has potential but he looked worse the most recent callup than the first time around for sure.
He was so awful. It's not like Quinn didn't give him cushy minutes either. I wish we had traded him for a better prospect last year when he still had some shine.
My point was more there’s a better chance of Bordeleau being a productive center going forward than RJ at this point simply because Ryan’s basically cooked. He turned into RJ Umberger basically overnight.
The ankle injury is definitely concerning for a guy who was already slow but he did score 63 points just one season ago. Getting him at 4Mx2 is a shrewd buy low move by Colorado.
Hope he is the guy MG throws out there in talks if any and not anyone else. He's probably the 5th or 6th best forward prospect now.
Not now; I mean back when the Sharks were competing. It's a sharp move from Sakic. DW was pretty good at going for the big fish, but not as good at maximizing cap space.
He has played 16 nhl games and is 21. It seems premature to write him off.
Couture would have cost more, and I'm not sure Couture would waive his NMC.
It'd be definitely premature to write him off as an NHL player, but he's unlikely to be a significant contributor at this point.
He hasn't shown any indication he can stick as a top six forward and was never an amazing prospect to begin with. It's not like we're talking about Quinton Byfield here. I don't think Bordeleau has the size or motor to reinvent himself as a bottom six forward either.
For a team competing it makes perfect sense. Bringing him aboard for us, even for free would have done nothing.
I think he’s creative enough to be a solid top 6 piece. I don’t think what he showed last year was indicative of anything. He looked good at Michigan and at the WJC so looking unsure of himself in a ten game stint at the end of a completely disastrous sharks season doesn’t really concern me. Frankly, no one aside from Gregor or Eklund looked good after the Timo trade.
I dunno, I watched every game of that summer WJC and he looked lost without the puck and wasn't even making many impressive passes. I think he got overrated after his freshman year at Michigan because we didn't have any other good prospects at the time and was never anything special.
I think he definitely looks better with the puck on his stick. The rest is something I firmly believe can be developed over time. He’s still only 21
That too, especially on the power play. I'm biased because I've never liked Bordeleau's game but it's not looking good for him.
He started playing harder in the last couple games of the season but he doesn't really have the puck battle instincts of a winger.
I think it's safe to say most people on this board, myself included, probably overrated DW Jr's drafting largely because his draft picks signified a departure from Burke.
It's not his size that worries me, it's his play away from the puck, which thankfully can be taught. That said, he needs to put in the work.
I mean that's revisionist history. I would say most of the board liked his picks when they happened.
What's crazy is as bad as Burke's picks historically have been, Jr's may have been worse in the end. He'll have essentially nothing to show at all for his entire tenure other than possibly Eklund/Gushchin. Imagine spending FOUR YEARS scouting and ending up for the most part not drafting a single NHL player other than one that kinda fell into your hands. I'm shocked he found a job somewhere else. At least Burke found people here and there.
I was always kind of jealous of the way other orgs were modernizing in terms of sports science, development, analytics, etc. So kinda glad to move on from DW's old school FO. Hoping that MG's FO is more modern or at least up to date.
I agree. Just look at our AHL team, guys would go in highly touted and exit without ever becoming an NHLer
Unfortunately that's what kinda happened this year under MG/JM as well. Nobody really took a step forward arguably other than Gus, Eklund stayed course and everybody else kind of disappointed, and the Barracuda were supposed to be more exciting than ever this year. I'm not sure MG has the right development team in place yet either, but again, you have to draft players with something to develop too. Even all the goalies they tried this year disappointed
