Knies and 28 aren’t worth retention, eK AND a returning salary.
It's about making a deal not getting over on hf
My guess is there was never an actual offer but there were discussions and numbers/years bandied about.
He’s got the hockey eyebrows of Anthony Davisstraight from the horses mouth, Timo did say he was never offered an extension from Grier.
but do you really trust the word of the guy unwilling to sign with his new team full of beloved countrymen?
do you trust this face?
Read a trade rumor to Detroit a few days ago for #17, 2023 2nd, and LD Albert Johansson.
I imagine that's Detroit's opening offer. I would counter with asking for #9 + 2024 2nd. Who knows where it ends up, but whatever he does, I really hope Grier doesn't approach this like he did the Burns deal last year (looking to do the player a solid by moving him no matter how bad the return). Play big MG!
That's about the only thing I think that makes this different from the Burns situation. Sure, Karlsson is the better player, but this is basically both sides requesting a trade, so teams know they want to get a deal done and won't need to make an extreme offer. Hilariously, I think Knies and 28 would be an insane overpay for Karlsson. I would be shocked if they got a player/prospect like Knies on top of a 1st for Karlsson. I think it will be extremely similar to the Burns deal.
I don’t. Burns was 37 when he was traded and progressively getting worse for years. EK is coming off his best season ever.
Karlsson is also making far more than burns, longer, with a serious injury history, and has never come close to the season he had this year. This was Karlsson's UFA contract year so to speak, because he wants out. He will never come close to the stats he had again, and teams know that. If they got offered Knies and 28, which they never would also because no way Karlsson waives for Toronto, I would absolutely take that and laugh.
Holy f***. Is that real??Yes, but does he have the ghoulish teeth to match?
I see absolutely no reason to assume EK can’t be at least a PPG player on virtually any team with an increased focus on defense.
I’m curious how you know he’ll not repeat this? I have the feeling that before this past season, you had no idea he’d do what a defenseman hadn’t done in 30 years.
Because there's a reason no defenseman had done it in 30 years - its ludicrously difficult.
There may be improvements on what we have now, but I'm going to assume it'll be weaker than it was with Timo in the lineup last year. So that's a drawback.
It just doesn't satisfy my want for a 1st in this year's draft from a Karl trade. I need (nearly) instant draft pick gratification after pretty much an entire year of everyone going on and on about how awesome and deep this year's draft is. This draft is all I've rooted for all year. If we're shipping Karl I hope for something in this year's first round as part of the return, especially with retention.
