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Besides not spending on Greenway, the biggest silver lining is that we'll never have to hear, "but the ten million dollar qualifying offer!" Got so sick of other fans parroting that 
Speculation: 2022-23 Sharks Roster Discussion Part II
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Gecklund
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It genuinely feels like the same guys that Burke was targeting but just slightly updated. Instead of having no talent, they have a sliver of talent.
You can’t tell me that Torrey Mitchell, Scott Nichol, Jamal Mayers, Ben Eager, Freddie Hamilton, etc wouldn’t be the types of guys on this team.
Jargon
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I hate that thinking so much, it drives me insane.
hohosaregood
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It's odd though because he's also targeting not meat and potato kind of guys too like Jacob Peterson and Henry Thrun. Shakir is also more of a finesse defenseman moreso than a physical grinding defenseman like Okhotyuk.
WSS11
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We’re going to win the lottery and Grier is going to pass on Bedard, isn’t he?
Given the Sharks gets out-muscled every game all over the ice, can you blame him...
Anomie2029
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The sad thing is, I've joked about it, but I'm not convinced he wouldn't.
I feel like we will all be the blonde woman after Montreal selected Kotkoniemi.
Juxtaposer
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The Sharks have many problems but being outmuscled is not one of them. The Sharks have one of the biggest rosters in the league, only like two guys even under 6’0”.
themelkman
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Where did he mention it? Very glad it didnt happen
Jargon
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I do feel like Fantilli is a more Grier pick but I think Bedard is so good, he has to pick him.
Right?
…right?
WSS11
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I’m not either. I do like Carlsson and Fantilli a lot but if Grier passed on Bedard because of his size then I’d want him canned immediately. All joking aside, I don’t think it’ll happen anyway.
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I can kind of see this argument...but also, Grier has specifically said that other things are also very important.
I'm leaning more and more that Burke gets stereotyped as this old-school scout, but I'm not that sure.
My feeling is...when you are like the Sharks were from 2006-2019 (for the most part), with your top players in place, and the window open, the opportunity cost of going for high-risk players at the draft is hard to swallow. Getting solid middle-of-the-lineup players who are cost-controlled for a couple of years has a lot of value (and I'll note that when Doug Wilson started his first refresh in 2012, Burke swung for Hertl, and when refresh #2 started in 2014, Burke went for Golodbin).
Things have changed; the Sharks don't have a window yet. It'd behoove the Sharks to swing for the fences again and again, looking for that top-end talent.
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Today on the video he tweeted.
And as I’ve said, I don’t care what he says, I care what he does, or tries to do. I’m not writing him off or anything, just pointing out that I hate some the players he’s targeting.
Zetterlund looks like an absolute zero so far.
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Jargon
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I think everyone other than Couture and Barabanov have looked like complete garbage the last few weeks, hard for me to blame a guy who just came into the mess.
Karl Prime
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I imagine whoever gets 1st overall, the GM will be asked if he's taking Bedard. He may not answer, but if he didn't that would lead to rampant speculation.
I can't see Grier not taking Bedard, honestly. 124 games, 122 goals. His domination of the World Juniors as a 17 year-old against many older players. You don't pass up on a potential perennial 40-50 goal scorer and a guy that will be the face of your franchise for the next 20 years. His size might have been an issue 25 years ago but not in a league where P. Kane is a future first ballot HOFer, Jack Hughes is lighting it up, Point dominated twice in the playoffs, and DeBrincat and Caufield have become great goal scorers.
I can't see Grier not taking Bedard, honestly. 124 games, 122 goals. His domination of the World Juniors as a 17 year-old against many older players. You don't pass up on a potential perennial 40-50 goal scorer and a guy that will be the face of your franchise for the next 20 years. His size might have been an issue 25 years ago but not in a league where P. Kane is a future first ballot HOFer, Jack Hughes is lighting it up, Point dominated twice in the playoffs, and DeBrincat and Caufield have become great goal scorers.
Karl Prime
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Zets hasn't been totally bad to me, I think he's had a few moments, but definitely needs some time to adjust. Hertl has at least been playing better the last three games with him, though that may be because he knows Meier isn't there to drive the train anymore. Overall, I think like @Jargon said, it's probably not wise to judge him when the team as a whole have been bad the last three games.
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Juxtaposer
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Sure, I’m certainly not blaming or writing off Zetterlund. Just saying that he doesn’t look like much right now. My fear with him coming over is that he looked better than he was due to that great Devils forward group. Hopefully that’s not the case.
Jargon
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Yeah, I kinda want to see him with Couture, maybe, since that line is working. It’s tough to say. I want to fast forward to this summer, see how the draft goes, and hopefully go into next season with a younger team that may still lose a lot of games but at least don’t look like they’re in mourning.
Karl Prime
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For a team so big, they are 18th in hits/60. Which tracks for me because it doesn't feel like they are a very physical team. You think a team that's had Sturm, Lorentz, Benning, Simek, Megna, Kunin, Meier, Hertl, Gadjovich, and Eyssimont would be hitting more. Although they are also a slow forward group overall so forechecking the D is less effective. It seems so simple on dump ins for the opposing D to advance the puck before taking a hit or even being forced to do something.
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I mean functional physicality. I’m not saying that they’re bruisers, just that physicality isn’t a weakness that needs to be addressed with the likes of Jordan Greenway, which is what the poster I quoted was suggesting.
Lol. 21 year old Zetterlund gets traded to a bottom feeder team with no chemistry with linemates and after two games he’s already being criticized??
Karl Prime
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Oh yeah I agree. I just found it surprising how they aren't that physical with so many guys you would think would need to have a physical edge to stay in the NHL. Greenway would only be useful if he was throwing hits every shift and I certainly hope Grier wasn't willing to give up picks for him. Wouldn't surprise me if he was only targeted because he used to play for Quinn, just like Fabbro.
23 y/o. And 3 games.
But yes, time is needed. Especially because he hasn't played much against the other teams best, which he is now with Hertl.
Point stands that for the remainder of the year it’s impossible to evaluate anyone on this team that just got here
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