Speculation: 2022-23 Sharks Roster Discussion Part II

[hohosaregood]

I wanted Pastrnak just because he was a czech kid who was familiar with Hertl.

 

[Karl Prime]

I just read an interview with Karlsson and one of the questions started like this:

While the Sharks have never released the specifics of your contract, there have been various reports suggesting it carries an average annual value of $11.5 million over its duration.

Um, yes? There isn't any question the contract has a 11.5 AAV.

 

[Coach Parker]

2024 1st + Lorhei. Sharks turn around and deal Pastrnak as a rental to make up the rest of the value.

Basically nothing that would benefit the Bruins and there’s no way that Pastrnak would sign with the Sharks or that the Sharks would give him that contract. And Pastrnak is one of my favorite players in the league.

You don't see him signing to be with Hertl for 12 million?

 

[Karl Prime]

You don't see him signing to be with Hertl for 12 million?

Not to play on a team that has so much work needed to become good again. I think the smart move by him would be to stay with Boston.

 

[Juxtaposer]

You don't see him signing to be with Hertl for 12 million?

I can’t tell you what Pastrnak wants, but I can tell you that the Sharks won’t offer him $12M. He’s the same age as Meier and not so much better that he’s worth that much more.

 

[themelkman]

You don't see him signing to be with Hertl for 12 million?

We wont even offer Timo 8.5, so we sure wont offer Pasta the next deal that will blow up in our faces

 

[Sharkz4Fun]

We wont even offer Timo 8.5, so we sure wont offer Pasta the next deal that will blow up in our faces

Which is just crazy, because I'd much rather have Timo at 9 or 9.5 than Hertl at 8.

 

[Jargon]

From Fourth Period:

• More on Ottawa: On Friday, I wrote about the Senators trying to move Zaitsev and willing to sweeten the pot. Some teams being discussed include Anaheim and San Jose, depending on their other moves. And no, I do not believe the Senators are a serious contender for Karlsson.

What would it take for us to eat his contract? A 2nd? I like that Grier seems to be all in on optimizing what we have available and jump starting this rebuild.

 

[Pavelski2112]

I'd take Zaitsev easily, can get an asset for the cap and he makes us worse

It's a no brainer honestly

 

[Mattb124]

I'd take Zaitsev easily, can get an asset for the cap and he makes us worse

It's a no brainer honestly

Which one of our defensemen is he worse than? I have not watched him much. I am all in for taking on cap on expiring contracts for picks.

 

[themelkman]

Zaitsev is a no brainer. Probably wont get a first but a second + seems reasonable for two years at 4.5

 

[Karl Prime]

Which one of our defensemen is he worse than? I have not watched him much. I am all in for taking on cap on expiring contracts for picks.

He's kind of an older Ferraro.

If Karlsson is traded before next season and they traded for Zaitsev, they could roll with:

Vlasic-Benning
Ferraro-Zaitsev
Cicek-McDonald

32nd in the league D group that is.

 

[OrrNumber4]

From Fourth Period:

• More on Ottawa: On Friday, I wrote about the Senators trying to move Zaitsev and willing to sweeten the pot. Some teams being discussed include Anaheim and San Jose, depending on their other moves. And no, I do not believe the Senators are a serious contender for Karlsson.

What would it take for us to eat his contract? A 2nd? I like that Grier seems to be all in on optimizing what we have available and jump starting this rebuild.

That'd be a sharp move from Grier.

Is it unrealistic to think that if the Sharks trade Karlsson with decent retention that they should be getting a high end prospect back?

 

[Jargon]

That'd be a sharp move from Grier.

Is it unrealistic to think that if the Sharks trade Karlsson with decent retention that they should be getting a high end prospect back?

Well, according to the same article I posted, they have two potential deals in place for Karlsson that include multiple firsts. You know, if any of that is true…

I feel like it’s not unreasonable with retention to get a high end prospect, no. He’s the best defenseman in the league right now and I think Grier is very intent on not giving him away for pennies. Even as a business move; Karlsson is the only reason to go watch Sharks games right now. Without him… the fans need something/someone else to watch and look forward to…

 

[Karl Prime]

Well, according to the same article I posted, they have two potential deals in place for Karlsson that include multiple firsts. You know, if any of that is true…

I feel like it’s not unreasonable with retention to get a high end prospect, no. He’s the best defenseman in the league right now and I think Grier is very intent on not giving him away for pennies. Even as a business move; Karlsson is the only reason to go watch Sharks games right now. Without him… the fans need something/someone else to watch and look forward to…

Isn't it crazy to think that they could get something of value back for Karl? Two years ago the thought of that was laughable. I can't see them getting multiple firsts, but it just goes to show that even the biggest "worst" contracts can be of interest to teams if the player is playing according to it.

 

[Jargon]

Isn't it crazy to think that they could get something of value back for Karl? Two years ago the thought of that was laughable. I can't see them getting multiple firsts, but it just goes to show that even the biggest "worst" contracts can be of interest to teams if the player is playing according to it.

Yeah, I remember Sheng on his podcast discussing how he’d take a 7th for Karlsson just to get out of that contract last year. Which was not a bad take at all! I mean, if nothing else, we’ve been treated to a special season from Karlsson.

 

[themelkman]

Marek on 32 thoughts listed the sharks as a team interested in 21 year old Valtteri Pulli from TPS in the Finnish league. IIRC we also have a scout that works for that team specifically and we have rented guys to them in the past.

 

[Alaskanice]

Marek on 32 thoughts listed the sharks as a team interested in 21 year old Valtteri Pulli from TPS in the Finnish league. IIRC we also have a scout that works for that team specifically and we have rented guys to them in the past.

Big kid.

 

[sharski]

Yeah, I remember Sheng on his podcast discussing how he’d take a 7th for Karlsson just to get out of that contract last year. Which was not a bad take at all! I mean, if nothing else, we’ve been treated to a special season from Karlsson.

It's crazy how the turns have tabled

I think around the same time, sheng said the market for taking on MEV44's contract was roughly a 1st for each remaining year

 

[LadyStanley]

Monday morning (recorded Sunday night) speculation.



Wrt Senators... thoughts that they would like to get EK65 back. But would like new ownership to handle that. Current regime more status quo.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Swap Labanc for Zaitsev.

 

[fasterthanlight]

Us: Excited to see Meier, Karlsson in the playoffs, what futures we get for them, how it improves our draft position to trade them, etc.
MG: Tirelessly searching for which 7th round pick we can get for Kevin Labanc.

 

[Mafoofoo]

If we have two offers the team is comfortable with and it’s just waiting on EK, what’s the hold up?

I thought he wants to win?

He’s good but that’s kinda the opposite of what the team needs this season

 

[Karl Prime]

Swap Labanc for Zaitsev.

Wouldn't be the worst move. I don't know if any coach would want him on the 3rd line though and Ottawa has Batherson and Giroux. Besides, if you're Grier, knowing the team is going to be bottom-out bad for the next two years (at least), wouldn't you want to take a draft pick to get Zaitsev and just ride out Labanc's deal? With Timo and EK gone it's not like they'll need the cap room next season.

 

[Juxtaposer]

If we have two offers the team is comfortable with and it’s just waiting on EK, what’s the hold up?

I thought he wants to win?

He’s good but that’s kinda the opposite of what the team needs this season

Agreed, I don’t quite believe that report.