Speculation: 2022-23 Sharks Roster Discussion Part 1

[Gecklund]

Shoots left too.

Yep and plays on the right.

 

[STL Shark]

Lol. “This stat disagrees with me so it’s bad even though you provided all the context needed.” You’re arguing as poorly as Hodge. Benning is a shit player that shouldn’t make more than league minimum.

It's been pretty well-established for over a decade amongst those that follow and banter about hockey on the internet that +/- is a garbage stat.

 

[Pavelski2112]

+/- is a bad stat, and Benning has put up solid metrics

Merkley was also stapled to the corpse of Vlasic all year, so I can't blame him for whatever lapses are there either

 

[Gecklund]

It's been pretty well-established for over a decade amongst those that follow and banter about hockey on the internet that +/- is a garbage stat.

+/- without context isn’t good. I gave context.

 

[timorous me]

+/- is a bad stat, and Benning has put up solid metrics

Merkley was also stapled to the corpse of Vlasic all year, so I can't blame him for whatever lapses are there either

I'll also cut Merkley some slack because it seems he was clearly under orders to play a certain way by Boughner--which I think was echoed by Hedican during broadcasts--to simplify his game, play as conservatively as he knew possible, and in the o-zone to go against his instincts and adjust how he shot the puck or what he did with it.

That's not to say that these adjustments won't help him in the long run, but you could really see he was in his own head a lot of the time. All things considered I think he did okay. He got more o-zone starts, but I seem to remember him spending an inordinate amount of time out there with one of our 4th lines (that would be the "3rd" or 4th line), so for his Corsi and Fenwick numbers to be in line or better than every defenseman but Karlsson isn't that bad of a performance.

 

[LadyStanley]

What's each NHL team's biggest unaddressed need a week into free agency? Picks for all 32 teams

The first week of NHL free agency is in the bag, and most teams have at least begun checking items off their to-do lists. What's left?

theathletic.com

Paywall. Sharks need top goal scorer to complement Hertl, Meier, Couture.

 

[Bizz]

What's each NHL team's biggest unaddressed need a week into free agency? Picks for all 32 teams

The first week of NHL free agency is in the bag, and most teams have at least begun checking items off their to-do lists. What's left?

theathletic.com

Paywall. Sharks need top goal scorer to complement Hertl, Meier, Couture.

That would require Mike Grier to actually acquire a player that isn't replacement level waiver wire fodder, something that's clearly above his skill level.

 

[LadyStanley]

No demonstrative evidence either way.



Yet.

 

[timorous me]

That would require Mike Grier to actually acquire a player that isn't replacement level waiver wire fodder, something that's clearly above his skill level.

You act like this is easy, considering our roster and salary cap space and desirability and lack of desire to get rid of our top prospects

 

[CupfortheSharks]

That would require Mike Grier to actually acquire a player that isn't replacement level waiver wire fodder, something that's clearly above his skill level.

I think Mike accepts that the Sharks aren’t going to be very good for the next several years. I‘m sure he would acquire a goal scorer if one became available for cheap but it looks like his focus is to change the culture of the team. He can do that even if we are bad. I’m reserving judgement until training camp.

 

[Eklund72]

Yep and plays on the right.

And the left. He said he can play both which means he played both

 

[weastern bias]

I liked 23 better

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

I liked 23 better

I like 17 for him. Wearing 23 would mean he would have to play under the shadow of the many great accomplishments of Goodrow and that's tough for any kid.

 

[weastern bias]

I like 17 for him. Wearing 23 would mean he would have to play under the shadow of the many great accomplishments of Goodrow and that's tough for any kid.

How can we expect anyone to live up to the legacy of Torrey Mitchell?

 

[WTFetus]

Should've kept 23 to harness the power of Jordan. With 17, he'll only be good for one highlight reel goal in an otherwise unremarkable season.

Taco Tommy sounds okay though.

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

How can we expect anyone to live up to the legacy of Torrey Mitchell?

Bring back the tacos. 'Bordy's border tacos' when the Sharks score 4 or more.

Four in the net, Taco Torrey I will not forget.......[you].

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

Should've kept 23 to harness the power of Jordan. With 17, he'll only be good for one highlight reel goal in an otherwise unremarkable season.

Taco Tommy sounds okay though.

To be honest, I don't know what you see in Michal Jordan.



Michal Jordan
Defense
Born Jul 17 1990 -- Zlin, Czech Rep.
Height 6.01 -- Weight 205 -- Shoots L


Selected by Carolina Hurricanes round 4 #105 overall 2008 NHL Entry Draft

--- Regular Season --- ---- Playoffs ----
Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2007-08 Windsor Spitfires OHL 22 1 5 6 12 -- -- -- -- --
2007-08 Plymouth Whalers OHL 39 5 17 22 32 4 0 3 3 6
2008-09 Plymouth Whalers OHL 58 12 30 42 39 11 0 3 3 12
2009-10 Plymouth Whalers OHL 41 13 19 32 18 9 0 5 5 8
2010-11 Charlotte Checkers AHL 67 4 14 18 35 16 0 2 2 0
2011-12 Charlotte Checkers AHL 76 4 18 22 43 -- -- -- -- --
2012-13 Charlotte Checkers AHL 54 6 10 16 22 1 0 1 1 0
2012-13 Carolina Hurricanes NHL 5 0 0 0 2 -- -- -- -- --
2013-14 Charlotte Checkers AHL 70 4 21 25 20 -- -- -- -- --
2014-15 Charlotte Checkers AHL 30 2 9 11 4 -- -- -- -- --
2014-15 Carolina Hurricanes NHL 38 2 4 6 4 -- -- -- -- --
2015-16 Carolina Hurricanes NHL 36 1 0 1 12 -- -- -- -- --
2015-16 Charlotte Checkers AHL 4 3 0 3 0 -- -- -- -- --
2016-17 Kazan Ak-Bars KHL 27 2 5 7 4 9 1 1 2 0
2017-18 Khabarovsk Amur KHL 48 2 6 8 8 5 0 1 1 1
2018-19 Khabarovsk Amur KHL 54 2 13 15 16 -- -- -- -- --
2019-20 Khabarovsk Amur KHL 61 7 11 18 20 -- -- -- -- --
2020-21 Khabarovsk Amur KHL 40 9 11 20 12 -- -- -- -- --
2021-22 Khabarovsk Amur KHL 37 3 7 10 10 -- -- -- -- --
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
NHL Totals 79 3 4 7 18

 

[Jargon]

I was thinking, as an experiment, what if Bordeleau gets played on Couture’s wing but also takes periodic face-offs/they sort of switch off? I think Couture is getting to the Pavelski part of his career where he’ll be far more effective as a scoring winger than a center, and I kinda like as an experiment, slow rolling Bordeleau in there with him.

So…

Eklund - Hertl - Labanc/Barabanov
Bordeleau - Couture - Meier

Or something in that world…

 

[Eklund72]

I was thinking, as an experiment, what if Bordeleau gets played on Couture’s wing but also takes periodic face-offs/they sort of switch off? I think Couture is getting to the Pavelski part of his career where he’ll be far more effective as a scoring winger than a center, and I kinda like as an experiment, slow rolling Bordeleau in there with him.

So…

Eklund - Hertl - Labanc/Barabanov
Bordeleau - Couture - Meier

Or something in that world…

I could see Couture-Bordeleau-Meier being solid but idk about putting Bordeleau on the wing

 

[mogambomoroo]

I would love Couture - Bordeleau - Meier, that would give a good 2nd punch if Eklund - Hertl - Barbie get it going.

 

[Hodge]

Still in disbelief that they extended Barabanov before hiring a GM. Hopefully Grier realizes how worthless that guy is and puts him on waivers. He doesn’t fit Grier’s preferred style of play at all.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Still in disbelief that they extended Barabanov before hiring a GM. Hopefully Grier realizes how worthless that guy is and puts him on waivers. He doesn’t fit Grier’s preferred style of play at all.

Labanc and Barabanov are the 2 guys I think Grier won't wait to move on from. Problem is they could be hard to move.

 

[weastern bias]

Still in disbelief that they extended Barabanov before hiring a GM. Hopefully Grier realizes how worthless that guy is and puts him on waivers. He doesn’t fit Grier’s preferred style of play at all.

This is a parody account

 

[Hodge]

Labanc and Barabanov are the 2 guys I think Grier won't wait to move on from. Problem is they could be hard to move.

Labanc is a hold and rebuild value so you can trade him next summer situation. Barabanov I would waive and send to the Cuda with the goal of strong-arming him into a mutual contract termination. He can probably make similar money in the KHL anyway.

 

[spintops]

Labanc is a hold and rebuild value so you can trade him next summer situation. Barabanov I would waive and send to the Cuda with the goal of strong-arming him into a mutual contract termination. He can probably make similar money in the KHL anyway.

Even when you make good reasonable points, you can't help yourself man.