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The Flyers’ largest analytics department in the NHL showed that to the front office and they all high-fived when they saw how well they’re doing in “Endless Pain.”
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The Flyers’ largest analytics department in the NHL showed that to the front office and they all high-fived when they saw how well they’re doing in “Endless Pain.”
freakydallas13
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"Fletcher only made one mistake, because he was told to win now and that was impossible". Like that somehow absolves him from making terrible moves.
Contrarian logic working overtime today.
Contrarian logic working overtime today.
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deadhead
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Hayes is becoming JVR. PPG is pretty good, and 17 ES points in 25 games is a 50 point pace, which is 1st line production.
Like JVR, he needs to be sheltered on defense.
But I could see a playoff contender being interested in him, might have to eat a smaller contract coming back.
Like JVR, he needs to be sheltered on defense.
But I could see a playoff contender being interested in him, might have to eat a smaller contract coming back.
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Get in loser, we’re going losing - The Chuck Fletcher story.
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Yes, and he's been a difference maker in CBJ. Who get to waste his prime seasons then watch him fall off the last 3 years of his deal.
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I said long ago , getting rid of Ghost is on AV but the Risto is 100 percent on Fletch and so is his extension .
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IT'S LITTLE RICHARD'S BIRTHDAY. No one listened to me. Go to your rooms. No dinner.
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That's because they shelter him.
2021-22: 8th in ES TOI
2020-21: 4th in ES TOI
2019-20: 7th in ES TOI
He hasn't played 14+ minute at 5x5 since 2016-17.
Which is what they should do with Hayes, put him on the wing, keep him away from bad matchups, and limit his defensive responsibilities.
Which is what a lot of teams do with veteran scorers.
Who cares? He's not part of the holy quartet, Ellis McDaniel, Chuck Berry, Willie Dixon and Buddy Holly.
(Yes, I left out Elvis, he didn't write the songs that launched a thousand garage bands).
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Reducing Hayes minutes isn't going to change the fact that he destroys opportunities for teammates.
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2019 FLETCHER: I'm going to sign Hayes for $50 million specifically to play center because dammit we need a center, and I have no choice but to get us the most expensive center [Couturier and Giroux on roster].
2022 TORTORELLA: We have no proven NHL centers, but Hayes can't play center. I'm going to play a bottom 6 LW rookie at center over him. He can't anticipate play. Bad habits. We tried; he can't change.
2022 FLETCHER:
2022 TORTORELLA: We have no proven NHL centers, but Hayes can't play center. I'm going to play a bottom 6 LW rookie at center over him. He can't anticipate play. Bad habits. We tried; he can't change.
2022 FLETCHER:
deadhead
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Well, to be fair, those injuries took a tool on Hayes' skating, but it also shows the "Couts" effect - because Couts took all the tough matchups the 2C didn't wasn't as exposed defensively, whether it was Patrick, Filppula or Hayes.
Without Couts, every center on this team has been exposed.
Without Couts, every center on this team has been exposed.
Flyerfan4life
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did you not hear his part where he said " i like how we played with structure... sure we lost. but at least we stayed with our structure."
lol...
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BobbyClarkeFan16
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Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!! Maybe 3 or 4 at best. Schmuckles dealt also those potential picks because he's in it to win it, whatever it is he wants to win.
Striiker
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Honestly, the shit selections he did make were even worse than the trading of picks.
He’s made like one good value pick since he was hired (Brink) and almost everyone else is either incredibly mediocre or downright shit.
He’s made like one good value pick since he was hired (Brink) and almost everyone else is either incredibly mediocre or downright shit.
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Hey, Sabres fan here. Just curious - how has Risto been looking lately? I always loved him and felt like he needed a Torts-like coach. Now that he has one, I’m curious if it’s helping at all.
He’s always been extremely athletic with a ton of potential…just never put it together consistently in Buffalo. Is he improving this season under torts?
He’s always been extremely athletic with a ton of potential…just never put it together consistently in Buffalo. Is he improving this season under torts?
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He is what he was when he left Buffalo: arguably the worst defenseman in the NHL. Just more expensive now.
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Imagine going to the dump every other night to pump some garbage-water out of the ground and dump it in your eyes.
That's what it's like watching Ristolainen.
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