2022/23 Roster Thread XII: The Twelfth Night, a comedy play

[Juicy Pop]

He shouldn’t see more than 8 min a game if anything. But I want this team to lose, so give him more ice time. f*** it

I like watching Zegras and realizing that our coach hates him with all of his fervor. Being a Flyers and Ducks fan is an ultimate state of being.

I applaud you.

 

[flyerslducks]

I like watching Zegras and realizing that our coach hates him with all of his fervor. Being a Flyers and Ducks fan is an ultimate state of being.

I applaud you.

Lol ya at least I have one team that has future talent. Rather it be the flyers tho

 

[deadhead]

Despite it all coming to fruition, I actually do like MacEwen.

He isn't the guy we need, he sucks at most of what he does, but from what I've seen in the last several games I can tell that the passion is at least there. I can appreciate the effort even if a better player should be in his spot.

By that alone he's infinitely better than our dipshit management group.

He started the season in LHV, Hodgson lasted one game (now injured) so MacEwen was recalled.
He's earned his ice time, but if they weren't missing three veteran forwards, he'd be either 4RW or in LHV.
MacEwen is a limited player, so was NAK. Both are players you look to replace as you add depth.
The difference is MacEwen's motor always runs hot, NAK was hot and cold.

Deslauriers is being used too much, he was fine playing 8 minutes a night and a shift or two on the PK, but any more and the warts start to show - but again, injuries are forcing him into a bigger role than is ideal.

Both are here to set a tone, not about fighting (MacEwen should never fight, even TK is tougher) but about hitting on the forecheck and playing with energy. If you're going to play an aggressive forecheck, you need players who are aggressive (and don't crumple like used kleenex off a routine hit, poor Allison, some players just have bad genes).

 

[flyerslducks]

on a pretty weak draft class, very frustrating we didn’t try to get lundqvist.

We traded these picks:

2nd to get rid of ghost
A 1st and 2nd for risto
2nd and 3rd for tda

I’m sure we could’ve just done a 2nd and 3rd for lundqvist and kept our 1st. Or just trade the 1st in 21 for him. f*** you fletcher…idiot just wanted a big physical defensemen.

 

[Winston Wolf]

on a pretty weak draft class, very frustrating we didn’t try to get lundqvist.

We traded these picks:

2nd to get rid of ghost
A 1st and 2nd for risto
2nd and 3rd for tda

I’m sure we could’ve just done a 2nd and 3rd for lundqvist and kept our 1st. Or just trade the 1st in 21 for him. f*** you fletcher…idiot just wanted a big physical defensemen.

Maybe Chuck Fletcher/Minnesota not drafting in the first round isn’t a bad thing?​

Article from 2017 that shows what a shit GM he is. His fossil of a father would still be a better GM than he is today.

 

[Beef Invictus]

He started the season in LHV, Hodgson lasted one game (now injured) so MacEwen was recalled.
He's earned his ice time, but if they weren't missing three veteran forwards, he'd be either 4RW or in LHV.
MacEwen is a limited player, so was NAK. Both are players you look to replace as you add depth.
The difference is MacEwen's motor always runs hot, NAK was hot and cold.

Deslauriers is being used too much, he was fine playing 8 minutes a night and a shift or two on the PK, but any more and the warts start to show - but again, injuries are forcing him into a bigger role than is ideal.

Both are here to set a tone, not about fighting (MacEwen should never fight, even TK is tougher) but about hitting on the forecheck and playing with energy. If you're going to play an aggressive forecheck, you need players who are aggressive (and don't crumple like used kleenex off a routine hit, poor Allison, some players just have bad genes).

He hasn't earned his ice time. He is being outplayed by guys who get less time than him. As usual the team isn't run on merit.

Nobody is setting any tones, unless sucking ass and getting outscored is an ideal tone.

 

[flyerslducks]

When will forester be with the big club? I’d rather have him than any of the useless plugs like bellows in the lineup

 

[renberg]

When will forester be with the big club? I’d rather have him than any of the useless plugs like bellows in the lineup

After his game today, I will be surprised if he’s not released. He has nothing.

 

[flyerslducks]

After his game today, I will be surprised if he’s not released. He has nothing.

Jesus, really? He looked promising at the wjc

 

[flyerslducks]

Flyers management solution to not scoring: get more average snipers and not skill/playmakers

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Flyers management solution to not scoring: get more average snipers and not skill/playmakers

need moar Tryhards clearly...

 

[Magua]

Flyers management solution to not scoring: get more average snipers and not skill/playmakers

You forgot: bury your best passing young player with 4th liners and sub-replacement players.

 

[Fire Tortorella]

Jesus, really? He looked promising at the wjc

Pretty sure he's talking about Bellows.

 

[flyerslducks]

Pretty sure he's talking about Bellows.

Oh shit haha my bad. Ya bellows is ass

You forgot: bury your best passing young player with 4th liners and sub-replacement players.

Another one: send your best defensive prospect down for seeler

Man we can come up with thousands of these lol

 

[BiggE]

When will forester be with the big club? I’d rather have him than any of the useless plugs like bellows in the lineup

I don’t want that kid anywhere near Torts. That fossilized POS would be determined to make the kid emulate MacEwen.

 

[flyerslducks]

Torts post game talks about pp yet keeps farabee off of top Unit lol

 

[bennysflyers16]

Nicky D is being forced into extra ice time , that is tremendous

 

[deadhead]

Torts post game talks about pp yet keeps farabee off of top Unit lol

Farabee is struggling right now, probably not 100% after his surgery, may take a couple months to completely regain strength and stamina, that's not a minor procedure.

 

[deadhead]

When will forester be with the big club? I’d rather have him than any of the useless plugs like bellows in the lineup

Lycksell will be up before Foerster.
Foerster, Desnoyers, Wisdom are all promising, but they're 20 years old and none are uber-talents.

I don't think they'll be rushed, come up at the end of the year for a taste, spend the summer getting stronger and working on their skating and push for jobs in training camp.

You forgot: bury your best passing young player with 4th liners and sub-replacement players.

Tippett is on the 1st line.

 

[deadhead]

Last five games now, xGF% (5x5 SVA) - xGFrel

Hayes 76 minutes, 50.53%, -4.53
Farabee 75 minutes, 41.80%, -18.15
Tippett 69 minutes, 57.42%, +5.79
TK 68 minutes, 58.09%, +5.49
Laughton 66 minutes, 48.09%, -8.86
MacEwen 60 minutes, 63.45% +13.20
Cates 58 minutes, 70.06%, +20.77
Sedlak 56 minutes, 69.73%, +20.11
Allison 51 minutes, 48.60%, -7.64
Laczynski 46 minutes, 53.96%, +0.74
Deslauriers 46 minutes, 39.21%, -16.98
Frost 44 minutes, 58.77%, +6.38

A lot of juggling, especially with JVR out.

Farabee has already been demoted to 3rd line, I think they hoped he could skate into pre-injury shape, but it's gonna take longer.
Deslauriers is now glued to the 4th line.
Allison is being replaced by a cast of thousands. (supposedly it's not a serious injury and he'll be back in a week or two).
I expect Frost to get more PT, but it's tough to play him ahead of Cates and Sedlak.
Laughton is being moved off center b/c he's not comfortable there.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Lycksell will be up before Foerster.
Foerster, Desnoyers, Wisdom are all promising, but they're 20 years old and none are uber-talents.

I don't think they'll be rushed, come up at the end of the year for a taste, spend the summer getting stronger and working on their skating and push for jobs in training camp.


Tippett is on the 1st line.

Tippett is miles from being their best young passer.

 

[Magua]

Tippett is on the 1st line.

If you think Tippett is the best pure playmaker among the crop, you’re beyond help. I don’t even believe you believe this, as it often goes. It’s a lot easier to make spin around passes off turnovers to open players when you’re playing with top 6 players who are creating turnovers and getting open. Talk about watching the games. Doesn’t mean he can’t pop out a nice pass now and again.

I’ve watched Frost at every level, and he has vision and touch that pretty much no one else on the team has. And he has showcased it in the NHL, like late last season which you so raved about. I guess it’s less revelatory to me than to you that it’s hard to showcase your passing with plugs who can’t get open, can’t pass, can’t beat anyone 1v1, and turn every possession change into a scrum behind the other net.

(This usage brought to you by the self-admittedly poor offensive mind that is John Tortorella. The guy who very recently used a future 40 goal, 60-70 point center for a contender as a 20 point 4C on a bubble team — right in his prime.)

 

[deadhead]

If you think Tippett is the best pure playmaker among the crop, you’re beyond help. I don’t even believe you believe this, as it often goes. It’s a lot easier to make spin around passes off turnovers to open players when you’re playing with top 6 players who are creating turnovers and getting open. Talk about watching the games. Doesn’t mean he can’t pop out a nice pass now and again.

I’ve watched Frost at every level, and he has vision and touch that pretty much no one else on the team has. And he has showcased it in the NHL, like late last season which you so raved about. I guess it’s less revelatory to me than to you that it’s hard to showcase your passing with plugs who can’t get open, can’t pass, can’t beat anyone 1v1, and turn every possession change into a scrum behind the other net.

(This usage brought to you by the self-admittedly poor offensive mind that is John Tortorella. The guy who very recently used a future 40 goal, 60-70 point center for a contender as a 20 point 4C on a bubble team — right in his prime.)

You mean Karlsson, who Torts made a starter in the first place and his idiot GM gave to Vegas?
Karlsson had only played two years when he was sacrificed.
His second season, Wennberg (22), Dubinsky (30), Jenner (23), played ahead of him at center.
Dubinsky was demoted after that year, good chance if they keep Karlsson he's the 3C.

That first year in Vegas was a fluke, since then 39, 33 (63g), 30 (56g) 30 (67g) ES points. Solid, but no 40+ goal scorer.

 

[Beef Invictus]

You mean Karlsson, who Torts made a starter in the first place and his idiot GM gave to Vegas?
Karlsson had only played two years when he was sacrificed.
His second season, Wennberg (22), Dubinsky (30), Jenner (23), played ahead of him at center.
Dubinsky was demoted after that year, good chance if they keep Karlsson he's the 3C.

That first year in Vegas was a fluke, since then 39, 33 (63g), 30 (56g) 30 (67g) ES points. Solid, but no 40+ goal scorer.

So Tortorella and another idiot GM with this team are trying to repeat that history? And the player is to be blamed for some reason?

Is this good development or asset management?

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Kneel before Torts.