Speculation: 2022-23 Roster Thread Part II

[MMC]

The interesting part of this is who gets waived?

With Nesterenko we're at 23 and there's no roster limit after the TDL

 

[MMC]

 

[Leonardo87]

That's a weird order with the lines. Looks like Nester is making his debut tomorrow. Against Columbus, Eakins is probably saying, why not.

 

[DuckTech]

I know the reason is $ but I find it funny hearing GMPV talk about not rushing prospects to the NHL then signs a college prospect and before the ink is even fully dry, NHL Debut!

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Verbeek really has absolutely no leverage here. The kid wants his money if he’s gonna wind up with a garbage quality franchise. If he’s going to the AHL and not burning a year off the ELC, then he could likely get that contract from most of the teams in the league.

It’s not like the kid will be taking ice time away from a future lynchpin of the franchise.

I get the contract, as a Ducks fan I get perfectly well that college FAs have leverage. But I don't get why PV said he'd do something else. Had he not negotiated yet? Did he change his mind? Just talking out of his ass? It's the difference between what he said and what he did that I find weird about this contract.

 

[MMC]

 

[Ducks DVM]

I get the contract, as a Ducks fan I get perfectly well that college FAs have leverage. But I don't get why PV said he'd do something else. Had he not negotiated yet? Did he change his mind? Just talking out of his ass? It's the difference between what he said and what he did that I find weird about this contract.

Similar to saying he wants a team that’s tough to play against then stripping virtually all physicality from the roster.

It’s entirely possible that the kid got feedback that said other teams were interested and forced his hand. It’s also entirely possible that Verbeek is out of his depth.

 

[forever1922]

I get the contract, as a Ducks fan I get perfectly well that college FAs have leverage. But I don't get why PV said he'd do something else. Had he not negotiated yet? Did he change his mind? Just talking out of his ass? It's the difference between what he said and what he did that I find weird about this contract.

Literally could be anything.

Could be that or maybe input from agent/or an entourage that swayed players mind from before and they return to negotiation table. Maybe they simply were impressed with him and sweetened the deal.

It could even go either way with the communication part: either you get the sense that PV maybe doesn't care about fan communication as much; or PV wants to communicate his plans but says something not quite done yet that ends up looking false.

It's something to clean up and it shows that he doesn't have experience being in a position where he has to communicate publicly his plans and reasonings.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I know the reason is $ but I find it funny hearing GMPV talk about not rushing prospects to the NHL then signs a college prospect and before the ink is even fully dry, NHL Debut!

This transaction is about securing the college talent by using up a year of his ELC. Or that player becomes a UFA to sign elsehwere. How many games will Nesterenko get this year is unknown. Our very own Terry did the same transactions, played two games in the NHL after his college season was over. The next year, he started off with the Gulls.

We'll be doing the same thing in April when D LaCombe's college season is over.

Similar to saying he wants a team that’s tough to play against then stripping virtually all physicality from the roster.

It’s entirely possible that the kid got feedback that said other teams were interested and forced his hand. It’s also entirely possible that Verbeek is out of his depth.

 

[forever1922]

This transaction is about securing the college talent by using up a year of his ELC. Or that player becomes a UFA to sign elsehwere. How many games will Nesterenko get this year is unknown. Our very own Terry did the same transactions, played two games in the NHL after his college season was over. The next year, he started off with the Gulls.

We'll be doing the same thing in April when D LaCombe's college season is over.

Yeah and one thing to add, NCAA prospects supposedly weight train way more than junior prospects due simply to the amount of games. So you would expect them to be more prepared physically. Not so sure it is the case with Nesterenko but as mentioned, mid-season signings are a special case.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Yeah and one thing to add, NCAA prospects supposedly weight train way more than junior prospects due simply to the amount of games. So you would expect them to be more prepared physically. Not so sure it is the case with Nesterenko but as mentioned, mid-season signings are a special case.

Also, Nesterenko is in his D+4 season with three years of NCAA weight training regimen. But that isn't really a huge factor with this transaction. It's about securing the player than rushing the player. If we don't secure him, then he becomes a FA and we lose out on an asset.

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

I don't think he will be an impact player but every clip I've seen of Nesterenko he's done something different and done it well. Sometimes it's a nice skill move, or a nice shot, or a nice one-timer.

Cool to get some fresh blood that actually seems interesting.

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

Completely speculating, but maybe the Nesterenko signing was reactionary to one of Grant or Silfverberg being shut down for the season due to injury. Not sure how likely that is, but just figured I throw another dart on the board.

 

[MMC]

Completely speculating, but maybe the Nesterenko signing was reactionary to one of Grant or Silfverberg being shut down for the season due to injury. Not sure how likely that is, but just figured I throw another dart on the board.

Both played yesterday after he was signed

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

Both played yesterday after he was signed

Yeah, but did they play?

 

[Kalv]

Nice to see the young core putting in extra work

 

[MMC]

 

[Mr Rogers]

Has there been anything on Kirkland since that incredibly bizarre car crash he got into? I haven’t seen anything but possible I missed it

 

[MMC]

 

[MMC]

Has there been anything on Kirkland since that incredibly bizarre car crash he got into? I haven’t seen anything but possible I missed it

Waived and playing for the Gulls again

 

[Mr Rogers]

Waived and playing for the Gulls again

Thanks, shows how much I keep up on players like that haha

 

[Deuce22]

Don't understand the angst about Nesterenko. Who cares if he's NHL ready? The team is bad, he isn't going to take PT away from any of our key players, and winning and losing is an afterthought at this point. If it took throwing him this bone to get him signed, I'm all for it.

 

[Sean Garrity]

Nice to see the young core putting in extra work

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[pbgoalie]

I know the reason is $ but I find it funny hearing GMPV talk about not rushing prospects to the NHL then signs a college prospect and before the ink is even fully dry, NHL Debut!

Seems more of the contract negotiation. Sign here, we will play you to burn one year of elc

Plus, losing isn’t really a problem, so playing him is just a test at this point

 

[MMC]