Definitely Buffalo. They have a top 5?10? center in Thompson. Good young 2 C in Cozens a top 5 D in Dahlin and potentially another #1 in Power.
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Definitely Buffalo. They have a top 5?10? center in Thompson. Good young 2 C in Cozens a top 5 D in Dahlin and potentially another #1 in Power.
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I could additionally add in Kyrou and Thomas would be nice to build around and CBJ and Montreal have nice young players but don’t hit as much in the draft.
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Buffalo has more overall talent than we currently do and is having their talent landing at the high end of their development curves. We have a better current goaltender, but there’s a lot of people who want to jettison him. IMO, none of Terry/Zegras/McTavish/Drysdale look like franchise players at this point - they all have glaring inadequacies that need to be improved upon to get to that level, if ever.
We will have to continue to have things go right to simply get to where Buffalo is. I don’t know that we have a player you can point to and say “yup, he will definitely be better” than his Buffalo counterpart.
Whoever we get in. This draft could change that.
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Agree on Buffalo, I would switch with them. My main thought is that we are in a good spot compared to nearly every team not contending as far as assets and cap commitment.
The on ice play has brought us to a great depression but you don’t have to look far for positives in our young players in the NHL. The point is for them to develop anyway, not lose continuously to get other players. Our guys aren’t gonna show up and be franchise players right away, but they don’t look like they can’t be that one day along with our pick this year.
I could ask a lot more out of the veterans and defensive play of the young guns, but they’ve all been admirable. Jamie shouldn’t have even been out there yet.
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Maybe, but the other rebuilding teams + us are all hoping to have what Tampa/Colorado/Carolina have
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For sure, just think we’re in a better position than most of em. Some teams need to clear their cap to begin where we started, some teams are close to us but don’t have that franchise player either, or do but have JT Miller for 8 years, and other teams will try to re-tool either successfully or just to waste everyone’s time. Then of course one lucky team gets Bedard. I don’t want to stick around to get lucky again next year if we don’t this year.
I’ll take my Zach Benson/Will Smith and move on like the rest of the league if that’s what happens. There’s a bunch of top 5/10 picks in the leading scores, but there’s also a ton that aren’t.
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Agree with you Leo… Henrique was doing well before the Ducks started looking like an NHL team. I really like the Vatrano add. I am still trying to figure out where I would keep strome linemate wise for 5 years
I've thought about this too. Strome and Zegras do not work well together. I think they should move Lundestrom to left wing and Strome to 3rd line center. In the off-season, I would look for a top 6 upgrade. Maybe a 3rd line winger too.
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Here's the whole migration event recording (the thingy after the TDL):
Edit: I'm at 15:40 rn and it seems that Verbeek is a big pool player. A pocket pool that might be
Edit: I'm at 15:40 rn and it seems that Verbeek is a big pool player. A pocket pool that might be
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Leo told me he shared this (it was a Panarin thing on the Rangers board) and I just wanted to say I'm sorry you had to see this.
Strome has talent but he needs to be in exactly the right situation and I certainly wouldn't endanger young players with him at the moment.
One of the things that’s surprised me is his lack of speed. I didn’t think he was a speedster but he is literally unable to keep up with the play at times and can’t get to places. Absolutely not a guy who can skate the puck out of the D zone and up the ice either.
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He's at at less than a 40-point pace with us. Quite the drop-off from the 60/70-point pace he had in New York. It's to be expected though. His career average is around a 45-point pace (including his time in New York).
I'm not sure that Lundestrom is the answer, but I agree that Strome should be transitioned back into a 3rd line role.
I still think that Strome and Vatrano will be a really good 3rd line and I know people will clamor about his cap hit but with the cap likely increasing I really don't think it will be an issue
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They might look better together in that role than they did when they were both in the top 6. The problem is we don't really have anyone better suited for top 6 minutes at the moment.
I think you hit on the issue. Because of the lack of top 6 forwards, they are being placed in roles above their abilities. I think they both would benefit from less ice time and better match ups as a third line.
If we had more depth in the Top 6, wouldn’t mind a 3rd line of Vatrano - Lundy - Strome, gives Lundy some skilled guys.
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Verbeek thought they were top-6 material, even a top-6 center for Strome.
I think Strome is Top 6 he is just not performing like he should, Vatrano is more of a middle six forward, imo, who can fill in the Top 6 from time to time but he is better suited on a 3rd line. I think he has been better on the 3rd line.
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Something to keep in mind with Strome is that we were fortunate enough to have both Zegras and McTavish both perform as well as we could expect and stay completely healthy outside of one missed game for McTavish. If that ever changes Strome will start to feel like a lot more of a necessity. Much of his value to this current Ducks team comes from the insurance he provides in that scenario
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