Speculation: 2022-23 Roster Thread Part II

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Our defense will be very interesting to end the season. Lacombe and Thrun probably get roster spots right away after we sell And they (hopefully) sign. Could end up with something like this

Fowler-Drysdale
Benoit-Thrun
Lacombe-Beaulieu/White

Task will of course be to get the vets in the offseason to insulate this talent but we’ll have plenty of money and assets to work with so I’m not concerned yet
 
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Through 6 games season SOG Counter: Ducks 156, Opponents 247
 
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Through 6 games season SOG Counter: Ducks 156, Opponents 247
Since they started recording SOG, the most anyone has given up per game in a full season is 38.3 (the 75 Caps, the ones who only won 8 games). The Ducks are currently giving up 41.2 per game.

 

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Since they started recording SOG, the most anyone has given up per game in a full season is 38.3 (the 75 Caps, the ones who only won 8 games). The Ducks are currently giving up 41.2 per game.

Well the good news is that we only have to win seven more games to be no worse than the 75 Caps. I think that we will do better than that.
 

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He’s also on pace for 33 goals :laugh:

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Why is Drew not up with the team? We are the softest team in hockey and he looked good in preseason. Also Orsipov is down there.
Verbeek hockey makes Pierre Gauthier look like Burke.

I'm not sure Drew would do much as a forward. We have, surprisingly, Comtois doing the physical role. Our problem is the lack of physicality on the blue line.
 
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I'm not sure Drew would do much as a forward. We have, surprisingly, Comtois doing the physical role. Our problem is the lack of physicality on the blue line.
Well for starters having Comtois as an enforcer is not only a waste of his talents it's obviously not effective. Drew can actually fight as well as having some offensive skill.
We have a huge lack of physicality on both ends
 

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Well for starters having Comtois as an enforcer is not only a waste of his talents it's obviously not effective. Drew can actually fight as well as having some offensive skill.
We have a huge lack of physicality on both ends

Drew's skating can't keep up right now. He's still a work in progress as a converted forward.

Anaheim has three physical forwards in Carrick, Comtois, and Jones. Problem is we're not seeing much of physicality from Comtois and Jones that makes a consistent difference on the ice. Carrick is still recovering from hip surgery.

Comtois' talents are still an enigma. We still don't see 2020-21 Comtois talent, but Comtois playing the physical role who can chip in once in a while is a better transition than the Comtois of last year. If Comtois can't find his offensive game, then he needs to change his game to remain in the NHL. Maybe it'll come to him in time just like Terry needed a few years to breakout.

We have a big, speedy winger in Jones who I thought would bring back some physicality, but he's been quite quiet in the regular season compared to the pre-season. Sadly, he's not good enough to be on the PK. In fact, he spends more time in the sin bin than he does on the PK.

The team will be getting back in Carrick around November. We could use his leadership skills in that bottom-6 to increase the physical play from both Comtois and Jones. Carrick has the "want to" be physical while Comtois and Jones are still learning it.

A player I want to see exert more of his physicality is Lundestrom. He's strong, fast, and defensive minded. He's got the build to be a physical (like Lindholm physicality, not Des physicality), but it feels he's gone meek this year.

As bad as our lack of physicality is today, our significant problem on the team happens to be the lack of a Special Teams unit. We can't score on the PP and we're inconsistent at defending the PK. The team has more offensive weapons at their disposal now, but are far more inept on the PP. That's scarier than our lack of physicality right now b/c we have the offensive talent on the team right now. The physicality helps a lot more on the PK, but we don't have those talents at the moment.

With this unbalanced and soft roster, I expected us to be in a lot of shootouts. We're not keeping up offensively, which makes not having physicality on the blueline look far worse than it already is. The hope is that this lack of physicality is temporary, like for the next couple of seasons temporary. Anaheim has some physical players in tow that you'll like in 6'3 C Gaucher, 6'3 RD Helleson, 6'2 LD Thrun, 6'3 LD Hinds, and 6'5 RD Warren. Three of those five were acquired under Verbeek, which is why I say the lack of physicality is temporary. It sucks that it's gotta be like this, where the future is more important than today for Verbeek.
 

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I'm not sure Drew would do much as a forward. We have, surprisingly, Comtois doing the physical role. Our problem is the lack of physicality on the blue line.
We actually lack team toughness everywhere.

There are a few guys that will hit.
But the overall team is very soft.
One person isn’t going to change it.
Our toughest player (not carrick) is Gibson for Lords sake
 
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We actually lack team toughness everywhere.

There are a few guys that will hit.
But the overall team is very soft.
One person isn’t going to change it.
Our toughest player (not carrick) is Gibson for Lords sake
Yeah we need like 3-4 new players honestly for it to even make a difference... that's how bad it is.
 

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We can't be young, bad, and soft. Maybe we should kick the tires on Andy Andreoff, or Luke Witowski. It's not ideal, but without Manson, des, or Getzlaf we don't have the big bodies to protect the kids
 

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We can't be young, bad, and soft. Maybe we should kick the tires on Andy Andreoff, or Luke Witowski.
Verbeek ignored all those enforcers when they were on waivers and grabbed Leason instead.

Leason is some sort of hockey player I guess. We “saw” him skate around a little bit in two of the six Ducks games so far.
 

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Adam Henrique is on pace for 13 points this season and he's on the top line. Surely we can do something better for zegras and Terry

After him bouncing back last season, it has been very disappointing his start. Vatrano and Strome have been good but the tenured Ducks vets, not so much. I mean Silf did have that one really good game, when everyone else was bad or fatigued. Other than that, meh.
 
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We can't be young, bad, and soft. Maybe we should kick the tires on Andy Andreoff, or Luke Witowski. It's not ideal, but without Manson, des, or Getzlaf we don't have the big bodies to protect the kids
I'm all for being physical, but the reason Ducks are getting dominated is shitty special teams. Are you going to put these face punchers on the PK or PP? I want physical hockey players who are good.
 
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We actually lack team toughness everywhere.

There are a few guys that will hit.
But the overall team is very soft.
One person isn’t going to change it.
Our toughest player (not carrick) is Gibson for Lords sake

I never discounted we lost toughness everywhere. I'm looking at our forward grouping.

Who we lost last year: C Getz, LD Lindholm, RD Manson, LW Des, RW Rakell, C Steel, and LW Milano. Getz and Des are the only forwards we lost that were physical.

The addition of Strome takes up the slack we lost from Getz, somewhat. Strome is a better two-way guy with speed and plays the PK. That means Des is the only physical component we lost at the forward position. Except we've been preparing Carrick for Des' role. Welp, it looked like it when Carrick had more fights than Des in one game. I haven't seen that tenacity since.

We also got Jones back from a year long injury. He's supposed to be our bull-in-a-China shop. He looked like that in pre-season, but not so much in the regular season.

The biggest reason we don't have toughness is the loss of both Lindholm and Manson. They're amazing and consistent on the PK and at the end of games. They're on the ice 20-24 minutes a game. Manson made Fowler a more offensive weapon. Lindholm is a vastly better babysitter than Kulikov.

I think we're lacking the "want to be physical" with some of our forwards (Comtois and Jones; still waiting for Carrick), but we're simply lacking the physical capacity on the blue line.
 

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I'm all for being physical, but the reason Ducks are getting dominated is shitty special teams. Are you going to put these face punchers on the PK or PP? I want physical hockey players who are good.

Des played on the PK. ::: sniff, sniff ::: Never should have let him go, but I think Verbeek thought Carrick would be the one carrying Des torch.

Come to think about it, I think a fully healthy Carrick can help our PK unit. He's probably better than having Comtois or Vatrano on the unit. Then Vatrano can focus more on the PP2 unit.
 

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After him bouncing back last season, it has been very disappointing his start. Vatrano and Strome have been good but the tenured Ducks vets, not so much. I mean Silf did have that one really good game, when everyone else was bad or fatigued. Other than that, meh.
Waive his sorry ass again. That seemed to light a fire under him. Dude is just floating around out there hindering any line he is on right now.
 
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