Speculation: 2022-23 Roster Thread Part II

[MMC]

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

Somewhat expected, I guess. Now we wait to see if he's sent down, right?

 

[Ducks DVM]

Silf was awful last season too and the year before that.

Hes a 4th liner at best, no idea why people keep penciling him into a third line role.

He started the season as one of our best forwards, and then COVID took him out, and then all the injury accumulations. There was plenty of discussion over the first few weeks how we finally had an effective 3rd line again.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Can we stop the holding back/taking it easy talk when it relates to playing in actual NHL games. If a player is actually doing that there's two things: I don't want the player on this team (mentality wise) or they shouldn't be playing in the game period. This isn't beer league.

Sometimes it would be awesome if @bsu actually listened to his own advice. We haven't played a single "actual NHL games" this season.

He's been coasting and taking it easy for the last 3 years. Don't worry he's randomly going to be back to the old Silf one of these days

Hot takes... get your hot takes here. Terry has been nothing for three seasons with Anaheim, but didn't see @bsu saying Terry is coasting and taking it easy for the last 3 years before his breakout season. LoL

Last year: COVID + blood clot
two seasons ago (COVID season): hip injury re-inflamed, shutdown early to get hip surgery
three seasons ago: Had hip injury and decided to go non-surgical route (4th best scorer on team and second best goal scorer, 21g + 18a)

In the past couple of seasons, Silf has been injury riddled and hasn't looked great when not 100%. When he is 100% healthy, then we see a productive Silf, which has been sparse for the past couple of seasons. It will be sad if Silf follows Kesler's ending with hip injury issues. No one ever said Kesler was coasting or taking it easy, but hot takes gotta hot takes.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Silf turns 32 in 2 days. He's now at the age where decline naturally happens.
30 points is most likely for Silf.
I also think 35 points is possible for him and 40 points is where he could top out at if McTavish and Lundestrom have good years it will help carry Silf.

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

He started the season as one of our best forwards, and then COVID took him out, and then all the injury accumulations. There was plenty of discussion over the first few weeks how we finally had an effective 3rd line again.

a month of decent play in like 2 years is pretty unimpressive but I guess we will see how he performs this season. Personally i think theres much better players to play with McTavish and Lundestrom and holding onto a guy whos well past his expiration date is a good way to kill any hope McTavish and Lundestrom have at having good numbers.

He'd be a decent 4th line vet that kills penalties but putting someone who had the same amount of goals as Gerald Mayhew (in 38 more games) with two of your top prospects is an experiment that hopefully doesn't last too long.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

He started the season as one of our best forwards, and then COVID took him out, and then all the injury accumulations. There was plenty of discussion over the first few weeks how we finally had an effective 3rd line again.

COVID affects people differently. Maybe COVID affected Silf's ability to recover faster. We can actually notice when Silf's game did start improving after COVID infection, or at least his offense.

Silf
2021-22	Games	G	A	Pts	PPG		Plus/Minus
Total	53	5	16	21	0.40		-3
Before COVID infection	9	1	7	8	0.89		6
After COVID infection	29	1	4	5	0.17		-5
Last 15 games	15	3	5	8	0.53		-4

Getting back to 0.50 ppg range is a great sign for Silf.

2018-19: 73 games; 24g + 19a = 43 pts (0.59 ppg) ... 2nd best scorer and 1st best goal scorer on team
2019-20: 66 games: 21g + 18a = 39 pts (0.59 ppg) ... 4th best scorer and 2nd best goal scorer on team
2020-21: 47 games: 8g + 8a = 16 pts (0.34 ppg)

A blood clot was discovered in Silf's leg on a road game. Silf's last game was March 8. The Ducks' last game of the season was April 29. Silf missed the final 23 games due to the blood clot.

Can we see a way Silf can get back to his old ways? Sure, if he's healthy.

 

[MMC]

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

COVID affects people differently. Maybe COVID affected Silf's ability to recover faster. We can actually notice when Silf's game did start improving after COVID infection, or at least his offense.

Silf
2021-22	Games	G	A	Pts	PPG		Plus/Minus
Total	53	5	16	21	0.40		-3
Before COVID infection	9	1	7	8	0.89		6
After COVID infection	29	1	4	5	0.17		-5
Last 15 games	15	3	5	8	0.53		-4

Getting back to 0.50 ppg range is a great sign for Silf.

2018-19: 73 games; 24g + 19a = 43 pts (0.59 ppg) ... 2nd best scorer and 1st best goal scorer on team
2019-20: 66 games: 21g + 18a = 39 pts (0.59 ppg) ... 4th best scorer and 2nd best goal scorer on team
2020-21: 47 games: 8g + 8a = 16 pts (0.34 ppg)

A blood clot was discovered in Silf's leg on a road game. Silf's last game was March 8. The Ducks' last game of the season was April 29. Silf missed the final 23 games due to the blood clot.

Can we see a way Silf can get back to his old ways? Sure, if he's healthy.

Covid didnt affect him as much as other stuff.. I will leave it there.

 

[bsu]

Sometimes it would be awesome if @bsu actually listened to his own advice. We haven't played a single "actual NHL games" this season.



Hot takes... get your hot takes here. Terry has been nothing for three seasons with Anaheim, but didn't see @bsu saying Terry is coasting and taking it easy for the last 3 years before his breakout season. LoL

Last year: COVID + blood clot
two seasons ago (COVID season): hip injury re-inflamed, shutdown early to get hip surgery
three seasons ago: Had hip injury and decided to go non-surgical route (4th best scorer on team and second best goal scorer, 21g + 18a)

In the past couple of seasons, Silf has been injury riddled and hasn't looked great when not 100%. When he is 100% healthy, then we see a productive Silf, which has been sparse for the past couple of seasons. It will be sad if Silf follows Kesler's ending with hip injury issues. No one ever said Kesler was coasting or taking it easy, but hot takes gotta hot takes.

He wasn't coasting and taking it easy.... You can't seriously think that He was putting weight on and figuring out how to handle men crosschecking and playing physical because he was built like a 17 year old. No one is coasting and taking it easy. Terry's effort was never in question... It was his body.

 

[Deuce22]

Silf was awful last season too and the year before that.

Hes a 4th liner at best, no idea why people keep penciling him into a third line role.

Because they know who our head coach is, and how he thinks.

 

[Evergreen]

Any update on Gibson?

 

[MMC]

Any update on Gibson?

Since he's on the roster assume he's fine unless the team says otherwise

 

[Evergreen]

Since he's on the roster assume he's fine unless the team says otherwise

I figured there must have been an update based on practice over the past couple days.

 

[ohcomeonref]

Silf was a great player but a mixture of injuries and age leaves him AT BEST as a mid-tier third liner and I'm not even sure I see him being that for us. The preseason hasn't been encouraging but at the same time I wouldn't write him off because of it either. The definition of a "wait and see" player this year for us.

 

[DavidBL]

Lets give Silf a few regular season games before we declare him done. :/ Maybe he is, but I imagine he's going to be given every opportunity to prove he isn't.

 

[bsu]

I don't mind keeping Silfverberg just throw him out there in situations that we don't want the kids in. He's still a smart player that is better than most the forwards we have defensively.

 

[DavidBL]

I'm so bummed. I thought the game was tonight.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

No donuts in the press box for him I guess.

 

[ADHB]

I figured there must have been an update based on practice over the past couple days.

Forget where, but in either a Stephens or Dillman article, they said Gibson took part in practice and was ready to go for opening day.

 

[Ducks DVM]

I think people need to cool their jets on evaluating the players/team/system. General consensus is that it takes 10-20 games in a system to get good at it. So let’s look at who’s new, assuming this exactly the same system from last year.

Mctavish
Strome
Vatrano
Jones
Regenda
Klingberg
Beaulieu
Kulikov

8 of 18 skaters. Half the top 6, and one defenseman on every pairing.

Is this team questionably constructed? Yes. Are some of the personal decisions open to question? Yes, although we have no idea what happens in practices. Is it ridiculously soon to dogmatically proclaim anything other than what one’s preconceived notions are? Also yes.

Nobody is getting fired or traded until at least 4-8 weeks from now.

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

 

[MMC]

I think people need to cool their jets on evaluating the players/team/system. General consensus is that it takes 10-20 games in a system to get good at it. So let’s look at who’s new, assuming this exactly the same system from last year.

Mctavish
Strome
Vatrano
Jones
Regenda
Klingberg
Beaulieu
Kulikov

8 of 18 skaters. Half the top 6, and one defenseman on every pairing.

Is this team questionably constructed? Yes. Are some of the personal decisions open to question? Yes, although we have no idea what happens in practices. Is it ridiculously soon to dogmatically proclaim anything other than what one’s preconceived notions are? Also yes.

Nobody is getting fired or traded until at least 4-8 weeks from now.

Felix Sicard disagrees

 

[bsu]

I think people need to cool their jets on evaluating the players/team/system. General consensus is that it takes 10-20 games in a system to get good at it. So let’s look at who’s new, assuming this exactly the same system from last year.

Mctavish
Strome
Vatrano
Jones
Regenda
Klingberg
Beaulieu
Kulikov

8 of 18 skaters. Half the top 6, and one defenseman on every pairing.

Is this team questionably constructed? Yes. Are some of the personal decisions open to question? Yes, although we have no idea what happens in practices. Is it ridiculously soon to dogmatically proclaim anything other than what one’s preconceived notions are? Also yes.

Nobody is getting fired or traded until at least 4-8 weeks from now.

When will you admit this team is just not very good... if not today, I'll wait for it soon. We all know (or at least the realistic people) what we are in for.

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

Patience is for p***yes. Anyone who doesn't overreact right away isn't being realistic.