Speculation: 2022-23 Roster Thread Part II

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JlindiesANA

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Maybe a position within the organization.

I have to think so for sure. He’s at every game my friends goto. There’s something definitely going on with Getzlaf.

And we aren’t stalkers if people think that way 😂 but it’s very easy to spot the guy.

Edit: He has kids, and a wife. Why is he alone all the time watching games. It has to be for business endeavors. He never has his kids at Honda, he’s always by himself. It’s definitely weird to say the least. Maybe it’s alone time? Dunno
 
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Just edited a couple of posts in regards to Kirkland's crash. Just remember guys, let's not speculate too much regarding the incident until more news comes out. Fine with discussing mechnical issues, but speculation regarding possible substance use as a cause is best left until more concrete news comes out as we really have next to no information at this point.
 

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We can agree to disagree on the validity of Verbeek's plan. I think it is clear from his actions that he did not see adding talent to what was already here as the path he wanted to take. I agree with his assessment, you don't. What I don't understand is why (you and others) keep harping on the moves he made. He made those moves intentionally. He knew Ducks would be bad this year. He wants a top 3 draft pick. He knew he couldn't replace Lindholm and Manson and didn't try to.

What the hell is this "thinking past the sale" propaganda you're spewing?

Did Verbeek have a choice? Yes, he did. Stop lying to yourself that a GM doesn't have options.

Now, you don't like the fact there was another path available for Verbeek. I presented three other teams in two different seasons where they were like us, a rebuild team. Those three teams added significant talents to their roster and either made the playoffs or are going to make the playoffs. I brought facts and you're bringing misdirection b/c you can't counter facts.

That wasn't the path Verbeek chose, apparently. Verbeek chose the "long and winding road" b/c he's got a clinical way of doing things by his rubric and can't deviate. I identified this at the TDL. I've been one of the minuscule group not bitching about this season b/c I already knew at the TDL it would be a long way back. Maybe you don't read my stuff enough that you're reiterating what I said and not realizing it. The Verbeekening happened and I bought in when it happened b/c we can't change the f***ing past. I've been consistent about how long it'll be and shared how through the seasons. But let's not have tunnel vision to not acknowledge there was another option.

As for replacing Lindholm and Manson, Verbeek tried to nab Klingberg in a multi-year contract. Then he traded for Kulikov before the season started. Verbeek expected us to be a .500 team this season.

Now, onto more pressing matters. Verbeek is doing what Murray was doing, which is a rebuild and not add much. Murray set the table with three top-10 picks in three seasons with Zegras, Drysdale, McTavish. Rather than continuing to layer the roster with balance like Murray, Verbeek doesn't care about the present so he can layer the roster with balance into the future. Both GMs will end up at the same place, but at different time intervals. Murray's interval would have been pressing for a playoff spot this year where as Verbeek is pressing for a playoff spot in 4-6 years.

The assets Verbeek gave up on vs the assets he's acquired has proven that Verbeek has misjudged talent, especially when he cited an expectation of being a .500 team this season. I knew we would be worse b/c I did the math, it's all those tables you hate. Thank goodness Klingberg passed up on Verbeek's initial multi-year contract! Sometimes, it's better to be lucky than good.
 

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Anaheim is planning something, no way Getzlaf keeps coming to Honda Center.

Friend got a photo at the Sharks game, he is always at the rink for some reason, I know it’s weird. But yah.. he’s at the Ducks games quite a bit View attachment 633411
Given his pose, he's probably there just to chirp the boys. He has this look on:

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Oh Max... I like him so much more than fake tough guy / always angry faced Comotis.... I had such high expectations for Max this year.... he will probably break out on another team and be Nick Paul-lite.

why? Just curious.

I love his engagement with the fans, and he genuinely seems to love being a Duck, but on the ice? Comtois all day for me. Jones is one of the bigger disappointments this season for me. He reminds me a lot of Etem (not a good thing). Comtois hasn't even been great, but I think he's better than Jones for sure.
 

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why? Just curious.

I love his engagement with the fans, and he genuinely seems to love being a Duck, but on the ice? Comtois all day for me. Jones is one of the bigger disappointments this season for me. He reminds me a lot of Etem (not a good thing). Comtois hasn't even been great, but I think he's better than Jones for sure.
Been wanting more from both of those guys. Production is down for everyone due to this Eakins system and a poorly run PP. I really like to see Comtois under a different system and coach before giving up on him. Jones just can’t stay healthy.
 

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Been wanting more from both of those guys. Production is down for everyone due to this Eakins system and a poorly run PP. I really like to see Comtois under a different system and coach before giving up on him. Jones just can’t stay healthy.

When I watch Comtois, I see a guy with potential still. Maybe not as much as we'd like, but I see an NHLer for sure. I could see him averaging around 12-15 goals a year, which is fine if he adds a mean streak to his game, which we've seen some this year. Jones? Nah, I see a guy who's got physical traits, but next to no hockey sense, and doesn't want to be physical (mean really) enough to find a role in the NHL.
 

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Been wanting more from both of those guys. Production is down for everyone due to this Eakins system and a poorly run PP. I really like to see Comtois under a different system and coach before giving up on him. Jones just can’t stay healthy.

I agree. I also enjoy watching him play roller hockey in the summer. I watch that side of the sport as well. And he usually plays almost every season as of late.

It would kinda suck if Comtois got traded. I know lots of fans love Comtois in the community. He’s very accessible
 

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why? Just curious.

I love his engagement with the fans, and he genuinely seems to love being a Duck, but on the ice? Comtois all day for me. Jones is one of the bigger disappointments this season for me. He reminds me a lot of Etem (not a good thing). Comtois hasn't even been great, but I think he's better than Jones for sure.
Sure he needs to work on finishing and his shot as well as learning how to fight…. but other than liking his engagement with the team, he’s got a good motor and size/speed advantage. When he’s at his best, I think he could be a shut down forward and be a pain along the boards and in front of the net which we sorely need. I think he could turn things around over an off-season like a Belesky. We’ve been seeing Nick Paul / Hyman types in high demand because they are as rare as high end scorers. He’s more effective than Comtois who can’t finish checks and is always off balance.
 
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What the hell is this "thinking past the sale" propaganda you're spewing?

Did Verbeek have a choice? Yes, he did. Stop lying to yourself that a GM doesn't have options.

Now, you don't like the fact there was another path available for Verbeek. I presented three other teams in two different seasons where they were like us, a rebuild team. Those three teams added significant talents to their roster and either made the playoffs or are going to make the playoffs. I brought facts and you're bringing misdirection b/c you can't counter facts.

That wasn't the path Verbeek chose, apparently. Verbeek chose the "long and winding road" b/c he's got a clinical way of doing things by his rubric and can't deviate. I identified this at the TDL. I've been one of the minuscule group not bitching about this season b/c I already knew at the TDL it would be a long way back. Maybe you don't read my stuff enough that you're reiterating what I said and not realizing it. The Verbeekening happened and I bought in when it happened b/c we can't change the f***ing past. I've been consistent about how long it'll be and shared how through the seasons. But let's not have tunnel vision to not acknowledge there was another option.

As for replacing Lindholm and Manson, Verbeek tried to nab Klingberg in a multi-year contract. Then he traded for Kulikov before the season started. Verbeek expected us to be a .500 team this season.

Now, onto more pressing matters. Verbeek is doing what Murray was doing, which is a rebuild and not add much. Murray set the table with three top-10 picks in three seasons with Zegras, Drysdale, McTavish. Rather than continuing to layer the roster with balance like Murray, Verbeek doesn't care about the present so he can layer the roster with balance into the future. Both GMs will end up at the same place, but at different time intervals. Murray's interval would have been pressing for a playoff spot this year where as Verbeek is pressing for a playoff spot in 4-6 years.

The assets Verbeek gave up on vs the assets he's acquired has proven that Verbeek has misjudged talent, especially when he cited an expectation of being a .500 team this season. I knew we would be worse b/c I did the math, it's all those tables you hate. Thank goodness Klingberg passed up on Verbeek's initial multi-year contract! Sometimes, it's better to be lucky than good.
No GM is going to announce prior to the season that the team is going to be terrible. I tend to look at actions rather than words. These actions by Verbeek tell me that his goal was a high draft pick, not to finish at .500.

-Traded away all of the UFA's
-"Replaced" Lindholm and Manson with Klingberg and Kulikov. This isn't replacement.
-Signed meh forwards (Strome and Vatrano) to get Ducks to the cap floor.
-Brought back Dallas Eakins
-Picked up Megna and Leason when more attractive options could have been claimed on waivers.
-Watched a team get hammered due to poor defense and did nothing to address it.

You can choose to hold on to the fantasy that Verbeek was trying to be competitive or you can see what he's putting on the ice and behind the bench. BTW, telling us what would be happening if Murray was still the GM is pure speculation and no one cares anymore.
 

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No GM is going to announce prior to the season that the team is going to be terrible. I tend to look at actions rather than words. These actions by Verbeek tell me that his goal was a high draft pick, not to finish at .500.

-Traded away all of the UFA's
-"Replaced" Lindholm and Manson with Klingberg and Kulikov. This isn't replacement.
-Signed meh forwards (Strome and Vatrano) to get Ducks to the cap floor.
-Brought back Dallas Eakins
-Picked up Megna and Leason when more attractive options could have been claimed on waivers.
-Watched a team get hammered due to poor defense and did nothing to address it.

You can choose to hold on to the fantasy that Verbeek was trying to be competitive or you can see what he's putting on the ice and behind the bench. BTW, telling us what would be happening if Murray was still the GM is pure speculation and no one cares anymore.
Didn't NYR do just that a few years ago? Setting expectations for the fans is not something that should be ignored imo. If this was planned then be honest about it. Everything he has said suggests it wasn't. I may not agree with it or support it but I'd understand it. At this point I think he just looks incompetent given where the team was when he got here and the decisions and statements he's made. You say the moves say that this was intended, but it's certainly possible that he's just not a good GM. Time will tell I suppose. Honestly, I think he went into this season expecting a .500 club. When it became clear that wasn't going to happen he figured he might as well go for broke on Bedard.
 

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Didn't NYR do just that a few years ago? Setting expectations for the fans is not something that should be ignored imo. If this was planned then be honest about it. Everything he has said suggests it wasn't. I may not agree with it or support it but I'd understand it. At this point I think he just looks incompetent given where the team was when he got here and the decisions and statements he's made. You say the moves say that this was intended, but it's certainly possible that he's just not a good GM. Time will tell I suppose. Honestly, I think he went into this season expecting a .500 club. When it became clear that wasn't going to happen he figured he might as well go for broke on Bedard.
This type of thing comes from ownership, not the GM (even if the GM is the one making the statement)
 

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I have to think so for sure. He’s at every game my friends goto. There’s something definitely going on with Getzlaf.

And we aren’t stalkers if people think that way 😂 but it’s very easy to spot the guy.

Edit: He has kids, and a wife. Why is he alone all the time watching games. It has to be for business endeavors. He never has his kids at Honda, he’s always by himself. It’s definitely weird to say the least. Maybe it’s alone time? Dunno
Interesting that Getz seems to be at most games, but not shocked. He loves the game, but could also possibly be having a tough time being away from the ice now, and this is a form of therapy.

I'd love to see him in some role w/ the Ducks, which most of us assume it's probably only a matter of time.
 

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Interesting that Getz seems to be at most games, but not shocked. He loves the game, but could also possibly be having a tough time being away from the ice now, and this is a form of therapy.

I'd love to see him in some role w/ the Ducks, which most of us assume it's probably only a matter of time.
Seems likely he's probably working on his scouting. Seems the typical place guys start when joining the front office.
 

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Interesting that Getz seems to be at most games, but not shocked. He loves the game, but could also possibly be having a tough time being away from the ice now, and this is a form of therapy.

I'd love to see him in some role w/ the Ducks, which most of us assume it's probably only a matter of time.

Yah, but I mean it’s Ryan Getzlaf. Why isn’t he in the suites that he gets for free with free room service. He’s actually with the fans sections all the time.

When you see Gretzky at the Oiler games or at the Kings games he’s always in a private suite to watch the hockey match.

When it comes to Getzlaf? You can find em in the 200s to the 400s section of seats 🤣
 

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Yah, but I mean it’s Ryan Getzlaf. Why isn’t he in the suites that he gets for free with free room service. He’s actually with the fans sections all the time.

When you see Gretzky at the Oiler games or at the Kings games he’s always in a private suite to watch the hockey match.

When it comes to Getzlaf? You can find em in the 200s to the 400s section of seats 🤣
Maybe he wants to hear how the fans are talking about the team(s)
 
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Maybe he wants to hear how the fans are talking about the team(s)
True….. he’s very accessible. Maybe I’ll see em tonight when I go and watch this evening. I found a ticket for 15 bucks in the 400 level. Can’t wait to watch McDavid.
 
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