2022/23 Roster Thread II: Worth Every Penny

[BiggE]

The most ridiculous thing is that so many people involved in management and advisement were here the last time they did this and, after years of being told it would inevitably collapse, it inevitably collapsed. It's happening again, but without being able to leverage it into a retool in any way and without compliance buyouts coming.

f***ing Hanrahan still holds an actual managerial position and still manages the salary cap, how is that tool not saying "yo, we did this once and it was bad, let's think this through?" Most likely the extent of his cap speciality is working a calculator or pulling up CapFriendly. Dude is probably as shocked now as he was when he found out about the 35+ with Pronger after the contract was signed.

In Hanrahan’s defense, his wife was a dyke after all

 

[OrangeAndBlackMetal]

You’ve heard of Moneyball, right? Well now, Shitgarbage Pictures is proud to present a must see film event!

It’s Idiotball!!


Starring:
Henry Winkler as Clueless Cuck Fletcher
What’s left of Clint Eastwood as Bob Clarke
George Alexander as Brent Fatboy Flahr
The kid who plays Mike from Stranger Things as Danny Briere
A random corpse as Paul Holmgren
Carrottop as Owen Tippett
A wax dummy as Dave Scott
A lobotomized hyena as Kevin Hayes

Written by Stephen King
Directed by Mike Myers
Music by Yoko Ono

Critics say:
“It’s terrifying, hilarious and utterly depressing at the same time”
-USA Today

“Please bring me back to life so that I can hang myself”
-Ed Snider

“And to think some thought I was a f***up”
-Ron Hextall

Christian Bale on poppers as Tortorella.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I think Gaudreau ends up back in Calgary tonight just piecing all the different info out there.

 

[BiggE]

Things that were/are better run than the Flyers organization:

CNN
The French army in 1940
Ford’s Pinto development team
The Detroit Lions
The Richard M Nixon Fan Club
Chinese labs in Wuhan
The OJ Simpson prosecution
The Weimar Republic
The Washington Generals
WCW from 2000 on

 

[flyerslducks]

 

[Columbus Hockey Dad]

Man, if CF doesn't find a way to unload JVR and sign JG who actually WANTS to come here, the level of universal hatred for him in Philly will be so ugly after having brought in a guy like TDA and bought out Lindblom.

 

[BiggE]

Might as well forget JG and go for Evander Kane instead. Corner the market on dickheads. It’s the Flyer way, just look at the front office.

 

[mja]

Imagine thinking you could count on the never healthy Allison and a rookie who missed most of last season with shoulder surgery to have major roles in 22-23.

It's not counting on anything. It's being pragmatic. We're not going anywhere. Might as well try the kids to see what we have. If they fail to live up to it or get hurt, then you live with that. You're not going anywhere anyway. One or more of the kids are a hit? Great, now you can start building around them.

 

[usahockey22flyers]

Can we go over 10% of the salary cap? 8.2M in the summer?

 

[Adam Warlock]

Nhl network is showing a game from march 2007 (aka the season). Pretty sure that team could beat the current one.

Richards was a hell of a player...even in a sophmore slump.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Man, if CF doesn't find a way to unload JVR and sign JG who actually WANTS to come here, the level of universal hatred for him in Philly will be so ugly after having brought in a guy like TDA and bought out Lindblom.

I don't want Gaudreau cause I want the pain to end soon, but this would be so embarrassing to Chuckles it will be glorious !!

 

[Hisch13r]

After everything else I just find it hard to imagine if push comes to shove he doesn’t move JVR and give up more than he’d like rather than stand pat

 

[kudymen]

I think that being desperate to excite a fanbase with some move...

...after all you have done for the past few years was talk HITZ BIG BOOM KABOOM and making fun of cute plays, hiring John Tortorella, double down on Rasmus Ristolainen, running many fan favorites out of town, inevitably leaving you with just a couple of dinosaur fans (see those HF ones)...

...and trying to get that excitement by getting a Johnny Gaudreau (re: playing style), well, thats just screams plan.

 

[PhillyWings]

I think Gaudreau ends up back in Calgary tonight just piecing all the different info out there.

Devils

 

[Adam Warlock]

Havent in past years, teams were allowed to talk to FAs before the start and all of the deals get leaked out the night before?

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Devils

Maybe. I just think Calgary probably has an $85M or more offer on the table. I think that’s contributing to that Emily Kaplan report that people close to Gaudreau are telling him to take the money in Calgary.

 

[Hisch13r]

Devils

I really don't see it. I think he either takes a monster offer from Calgary or goes to you guys. Chuck will pull the trigger on a JVR deal if Johnny goes to UFA and is fully committed to Philly. I think the only way he goes to the Devils is if the Flyers set a hard limit at like 9.5 or something and the Devils go 11

 

[Hisch13r]

Havent in past years, teams were allowed to talk to FAs before the start and all of the deals get leaked out the night before?

Yes but they got rid of the negotiation period a couple years ago

 

[Tripod]

I don’t want to back read, was it mentioned that Johnny was in Calgary today at the Stampeed along with Flames Mgt?

 

[OrangeAndBlackMetal]

honestly think it's either the Flames or us... If he doesn't re-sign in calgary before free agency begins tomorrow, i think he's a Flyer.

 

[Magua]

We all know the Flyers need to go scorched earth, but if they wanted to go back to the bubble Giroux-Voracek years, everything about the last 12-18 months should've been about stockpiling assets for a Gaudreau retool, if that's what they envisioned. Not gut the roster, but aim for max assets, youth, picks, optionality. Gaudreau could be erased from existence, and they still should've done that.

Par for the course, it's all so embarrassingly slapdash. The Flyers have already invested so much wasteful term and salary -- along with picks stretching to 2024 -- that they can't move for value, while already taking a bath to do so, that they can't simply go scorched earth. Not without the creative vision they lack. If they get Gaudreau, a top 10-15 player, I guess you can stave off the sunk cost fallacy. If they don't? Then what the f*** are they even doing spending more and more assets, in recent past and near future, along with the opportunity cost of not cashing in on assets? This is a bottom 10 roster without Gaudreau, but they're not even asking for the check from the waiter yet.

 

[FlyerNutter]

I wonder if Scott will be left thinking how this was all possible after offering up his blank cheques. Such a power move after all.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

You know it’s bad when that Russ Joy guy is cooking the Flyers on Twitter & actually making logical points in the process.

 

[LegionOfGloom]

Honestly, this team hasn't been interesting in probably 15 years. I'm getting way more entertainment watching this idiocy than I do actually watching the team. Chuck Fletcher FOREVER.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Take it for what it is worth

Zawaski has hit on some things with Hawks at times but isn't 100% reliable