2022/23 Roster Thread II: Worth Every Penny

[Hollywood Cannon]

Don’t get me wrong I more so mean for this off-season especially for the Flyers. I don’t think they will commit to a full rebuild but if they don’t get Gaudreau I think they come to realization that next year is a transition year.

The idea of buying out Lindblom and trading/buying out JVR for them to get turned down by Gaudreau and then not spending that money on anything this year gives me a good laugh in my head. Eating up cap space and assets in the future for absolutely no reason.

Now in reality they'll spend that money on something truly awful and then i'm no longer laughing.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Is the Suter contract that bad? Feel like he was pretty good for awhile

 

[Kelmitchell2]

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He was always good

 

[Curufinwe]

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Suter is still playing well for Dallas. Not sure why he wasn't traded with 50% retention.

 

[Adtar02]

what amazes me is how well some teams do at find certain types of players and how the flyers dont poach their scouts and development staff

thats where blank checks need to be going

 

[Beef Invictus]

Is the Suter contract that bad? Feel like he was pretty good for awhile

The length of both was always horrible.

And by the time they were signed it was already known the CBA fight was going to feature clampdowns on cap-evading contracts. The rush to sign them before they were taken away was always a huge risk.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Suter is still playing well for Dallas. Not sure why he wasn't traded with 50% retention.

It's certainly a mystery.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Suter is still playing well for Dallas. Not sure why he wasn't traded with 50% retention.

Fair or not Suter has a reputation out there that’s he not the easiest to deal with. He’s very specific with his usage/linemates.

I don’t know if that played part of it.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

What I was doing was my own age calculations because I don't really like the way anyone does it. I made a sheet for post-FA.

I want to end up seeing how much of the average age decrease in roster from one year to the next is just subbing out Yandle for York and Thompson for a young guy.

For example, Yandle was 12,821 days old on opening day. York will be 7,952 days when this year opens. Napkin math and assumptions put that one swap as about 25% of the difference by itself.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

What I was doing was my own age calculations because I don't really like the way anyone does it. I made a sheet for post-FA.

I want to end up seeing is how much of the average age decrease in roster from one year to the next is just subbing out Yandle for York and Thompson for a young guy.

For example, Yandle was 12,821 days old on opening day. York will be 7,952 days when this year opens. Napkin math and assumptions put that one swap as about 25% of the difference by itself.

I litrilly just did this on page 65. Once again, is my math not good enough for you?

 

[Beef Invictus]

what amazes me is how well some teams do at find certain types of players and how the flyers dont poach their scouts and development staff

thats where blank checks need to be going

The Flyers are happy with their team of friends and family with life-terms on employment.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I litrilly just did this on page 65. Once again, is my math not good enough for you?

1. No. I like spreadsheets and checking things myself.
2. There are 83 pages in this thread for me and you're not allowed to use Ignore. So we both have different number of posts per page and see completely different ones. This is a shitshow on every level.

 

[Adtar02]

The Flyers are happy with their team of friends and family with life-terms on employment.

all the sutter talk made me think of how many dman come out of Nashville

 

[landsbergfan]

What I was doing was my own age calculations because I don't really like the way anyone does it. I made a sheet for post-FA.

I want to end up seeing how much of the average age decrease in roster from one year to the next is just subbing out Yandle for York and Thompson for a young guy.

For example, Yandle was 12,821 days old on opening day. York will be 7,952 days when this year opens. Napkin math and assumptions put that one swap as about 25% of the difference by itself.

Don't you have to multiply Hayes' number by 7?

 

[ellja3]

So, per Seravalli, Gaudreau wants north of 10mil? Yeah, no thanks.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

1. No. I like spreadsheets and checking things myself.
2. There are 83 pages in this thread for me and you're not allowed to use Ignore. So we both have different number of posts per page and see completely different ones. This is a shitshow on every level.

(I didn't really do it on page 65.)

 

[BernieParent]

Does not compute.

You know, the future. As in tomorrow morning.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

(I didn't really do it on page 65.)

I've been hornswoggled.

 

[GKJ]

So, per Seravalli, Gaudreau wants north of 10mil? Yeah, no thanks.

He was offered that. Don’t think he said he demanded that.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Fletcher brings in everyone elses bad assets and cannot even properly market his own valuable assets. I have never seen anyone in my life this bad at their job. He's an absolute cancer on this organization and right now we are in Stage 3 closing in on Stage 4.

he legit is a insider spy working to kill the Org. from the inside.. and its working..

 

[deadhead]

He'd be worth it the first three years, age 32-35, ouch.

 

[landsbergfan]

Nah, the Bryz contract was a team killer without a CBO. A starting goalie making 9% of the cap who was out of the league four years into the scheduled nine.

I am taking into consideration that it was likely (many reports) not all his idea to sign him to that contract or at least make sure he was acquired and also that the CBO existed. Had it not, I'd look at the contract more negatively.

My overall point is that even though there were negative effects, the contract itself is not what caused the downward spiral of the Flyers.

 

[ellja3]

He was offered that. Don’t think he said he demanded that.

You know Fletcher. He will top that and add his house and dogs as part of the deal. But yes - fair point.

 

[snoop88]

God, Gaudreau really is going to be our Parise/Suter signing isn’t it. Fletcher does it again.

 

[Starat327]

I've been hornswoggled.

Usually you pay double for that.

Or so im told.