2022/23 Roster Thread II: Worth Every Penny

[Hollywood Cannon]

"The actual lines/pairs/positions don't matter, just the players listed."

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Literally the last time there was an NHL season.

Ghost had 51 points and the Flyers top two dmen had 31.

False. 2017-18 is when; cracked 50+ points once as a Flyer.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Corrected. Can't see MacEwen on the left side, Gaudreau has a history with Hayes and the point of the trade is to field two top lines.
Ratcliffe will get a shot in camp at 4LW, the other LH options would be Willman or Desnoyers.
Though you could go Laughton at LW and Laczynski at center.

My bet is Ellis doesn't play this season or they never would have traded for TDA, they factored in his LTIR when they made that move - and since it's only two years, if Ellis visits Lourdes and can come back in a year or two, they'll have some flexibilty.

Attard will play ahead of Seeler, probably Zamula as well, both averaged a much higher TOI at the end of the season.

Sides don't matter, but thank you, deady. The rest is exactly what I wanted. I just want the actual roster and it was easier to read laid out in lineup format than a list of names.

 

[Chinatown88]

And it all comes back to Hayes somehow.

But we are meant to believe that's just an absolute coincidence and they haven't inexplicably identified him as the key to the team and decided to build around him.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

The funny thing is that Gaudreau’s decision likely changes the direction of where both the Flyers & Flames go from there. I’d imagine both teams if they end up not getting Gaudreau look more towards a future play.

 

[Starat327]

The funny thing is that Gaudreau’s decision likely changes the direction of where both the Flyers & Flames go from there. I’d imagine both teams if they end up not getting Gaudreau look more towards a future play.

Does not compute.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Well we'll know today by 11:59:59 if Gaudreau is staying in Calgary. After that? all bets are off.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Forget Philadelphia, take the money dopey!

 

[Curufinwe]

False. 2017-18 is when; cracked 50+ points once as a Flyer.

Why does cracking 50 points on the league's 3rd worst team not count?

A tanking team that was deliberately stripped of talent, no less.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Why does cracking 50 points on the league's 3rd worst team not count?

A tanking team that was deliberately stripped of talent, no less.

Because the Flyers didn't trade a 50 point defenseman. The traded a 20 point defenseman is the crux of the gotcha he's attempting to pull off.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Well that contract isn't an overpay. You disagree.

I'm not even talking about the contract, but yes it is also an overpay considering he's so one-dimensional and requires support, and that support requires cap space of its own.

 

[Rebels57]

Gaudreau and Bedard will be fun to watch in 23-24 at least.

It's hilarious that you think we're getting Bedard.

Torts and Johnny Hockey will get them to around 8th worst and a miniscule chance at a Top 2 pick.

If they DON'T land Gaudreau though, they'll be in the running.

 

[Beef Invictus]

When was the last time he was a 50+ point dman? Pace, another phantom stat.

What is more important, actual points or pace points?


agree 100%

Pace points are a fine predictor if you take proper context into account. Which is, once more, why it wasn't surprising to so many of us that he did what he did this year even on a terrible team. He's obviously always had the capability and also was obviously misused badly.

 

[Rebels57]

The funny thing is that Gaudreau’s decision likely changes the direction of where both the Flyers & Flames go from there. I’d imagine both teams if they end up not getting Gaudreau look more towards a future play.

If the Flames lose Gaudreau and rebuild, they'll still be contenders again before the Flyers. Now that is comedy.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Chuck time

He once happily paid Parise and Suter 98 million apiece. A decade ago. He's very stupid.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Does not compute.

Don’t get me wrong I more so mean for this off-season especially for the Flyers. I don’t think they will commit to a full rebuild but if they don’t get Gaudreau I think they come to realization that next year is a transition year.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

He once happily paid Parise and Suter 98 million apiece. A decade ago. He's very stupid.

Do you happen to remember the reason that he did that?

 

[Beef Invictus]

Do you happen to remember the reason that he did that?

I think Holmgren ordered him to do it.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I think Holmgren ordered him to do it.

Nope, wrong answer.

It's because Zach Parise wanted to return home.

 

[Starat327]

Don’t get me wrong I more so mean for this off-season especially for the Flyers. I don’t think they will commit to a full rebuild but if they don’t get Gaudreau I think they come to realization that next year is a transition year.

Well yeah. When they're a bottom 5 team next year, With no assets to speak other than their own first round pick, swallowed up in cap with bad contracts, the next GM is gonna have no choice but to 'transition'.

The problem is, there's going to be nothing to transition to. Noone touching Hayes or Risto deals, and once Couturier has a ahit year with 60 points because his winger is....*checks notes* Owen Tippett and Cam Atkinson, he won't be moveable either.

The damage done to this team in the last 2 years will literally take at least 4 to recover from.

 

[GKJ]

I think Holmgren ordered him to do it.

That was ownership the whole way.

 

[flyers0909]

False. 2017-18 is when; cracked 50+ points once as a Flyer.

How many times has TDA cracked 50 points as a Flyer?

 

[usahockey22flyers]

He once happily paid Parise and Suter 98 million apiece. A decade ago. He's very stupid.

Is the Suter contract that bad? Feel like he was pretty good for awhile

 

[GKJ]

Nope, wrong answer.

It's because Zach Parise wanted to return home.

He was only doing that if Suter came with him. Otherwise he was going back to New Jersey. A lot of people assumed the Red Wings were signing Suter, or at least wanted to go the hardest.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Nope, wrong answer.

It's because Zach Parise wanted to return home.

Suter too! Minnesota is the traditional team for Wisconsinonians.

He got two for the price of nine.