2022/23 Roster Thread II: Worth Every Penny

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

I am against buying out Oskar. But it would be so Flyers

 

[wankstifier]

Wasn’t Lindblom decent toward the end of last season?

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Wasn’t Lindblom decent toward the end of last season?

Yes. He was fine.

 

[DancingPanther]

Hoping Oskar gets bought out so he can be free of this mess and "become" a better player elsewhere.

Buying him out also makes the team worse. Give it to me

 

[Diaper Mask Bandits]

Dude knows he has orders from Roberto Clarquez and co to aggressively pursue Gaudreau at all costs, knowing that he's already crunched for cap space, knowing he'll have to move out assets to dump JVR, so the first thing he does in the offseason is dump three more assets and $5 million in space at TDA. So now he has to buy out a fan and locker room favorite that showed the last half of the year he can still contribute in a bottom 6 role.

Of course that's ignoring the additional $5.1m he dumped on Risto a few months ago.

You can't make this shit up, lol.

personally, I think Clarke and Holmgren as senior advisors have played a key role in the overall vision and I bet Fletcher runs everything by them.

But, I do agree Fletcher is executing everything and he's in accord with the overall vision. So, I'm not exonerating his incompetence in any fashion.

For example, I think all of them were full-on board with going for Riso and Clarkie and Homer were probably up his ass about it. But, Fletcher was 100% keen on the idea and execution.

 

[ponder719]

F it. No point anymore in trying to like this team; give me all the dumb assholes in the league instead. Free everyone who we might have even the tiniest shred of sympathy for, let them have success elsewhere. Absolutely ruin this team, so that Comcast will have no choice but to go scorched earth in the FO or dump the team to the highest bidder.

 

[DancingPanther]

The cap management is so shortsighted that it reminds me of a 4th grader running a franchise in NHL 22

 

[Curufinwe]

If Gaudreau is available and wants to come to Philly you find a way to sign him. Same as the Rags did with Panarin. Elite talent is not available very often.

Now if you hadn't already thrown $25.5m down the drain extending Ristolainen, that would make it a lot easier.

 

[mja]

If Gaudreau is available and wants to come to Philly you find a way to sign him. Same as the Rags did with Panarin. Elite talent is not available very often.

We don't have the roster or assets or cap space to build around him, so it makes no real sense. And literally almost every major franchise player in the league is coming up for UFA in the next 4 years. I'm sure they all won't make it to market but at least one or two of them will. It's a moonshot but that's what we're down to at this point.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Can't imagine Meltzer taking this stance so adamantly unless the waters are being tested or there is dissension among the ranks, i.e. Fletcher chafing at the futile "win now" mandate and trying to get a reality check into the media.

Fletcher has always been this guy. He has never done a rebuild in his life. It's pure fantasy that he's secretly a rebuilding GM who is competent. He holds all power. He could just fire the advisors if he disagreed with them.

 

[GKJ]

Friedman writes that Arizona, Seattle, and Buffalo are linked to JVR. Also notes the signing bonus. JVR is $4m in base salary next year

 

[BrindamoursNose]

If Gaudreau is available and wants to come to Philly you find a way to sign him. Same as the Rags did with Panarin. Elite talent is not available very often.

Now if you hadn't already thrown $25.5m down the drain extending Ristolainen, that would make it a lot easier.

Or another 5 mill signing one of the most well-known goofballs in the NHL aka DeAngelo

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Dude knows he has orders from Roberto Clarquez and co to aggressively pursue Gaudreau at all costs, knowing that he's already crunched for cap space, knowing he'll have to move out assets to dump JVR, so the first thing he does in the offseason is dump three more assets and $5 million in space at TDA. So now he has to buy out a fan and locker room favorite that showed the last half of the year he can still contribute in a bottom 6 role.

Of course that's ignoring the additional $5.1m he dumped on Risto a few months ago.

You can't make this shit up, lol.

Don’t blame Cuck. He literally can’t plan further ahead than his daily morning styrofoam cup of coffee with Metamucil.

 

[Psuhockey]

Can't imagine Meltzer taking this stance so adamantly unless the waters are being tested or there is dissension among the ranks, i.e. Fletcher chafing at the futile "win now" mandate and trying to get a reality check into the media.

Or Meltzer just personally likes Lindblom.

 

[tucson83]

F it. No point anymore in trying to like this team; give me all the dumb assholes in the league instead. Free everyone who we might have even the tiniest shred of sympathy for, let them have success elsewhere. Absolutely ruin this team, so that Comcast will have no choice but to go scorched earth in the FO or dump the team to the highest bidder.

all because of lindblom like seriously? we are a top 5 lottery team and you want to keep everyone that doesnt do anything. if you are top 5 lottery team, no one is safe, tk, lindbom, jvr, provy, sanheim all need to go.

 

[Fight4yourRight]

If Gaudreau is available and wants to come to Philly you find a way to sign him. Same as the Rags did with Panarin. Elite talent is not available very often.

Now if you hadn't already thrown $25.5m down the drain extending Ristolainen, that would make it a lot easier.

Who cares? That’s not a good enough reason to sign him for 7 years and further restrict any future movement or signings. The only good reason that I see, is that it ensures Cuck can’t possibly do anything even dumber at that point. Though he’s always surprising us with that.

 

[Rebel247]

I knew about Fedetov being held in Russia for military service but I didn’t realize he was basically arrested and has been sent to the Artic for “training”.
Yikes!

 

[Fight4yourRight]

all because of lindblom like seriously? we are a top 5 lottery team and you want to keep everyone that doesnt do anything. if you are top 5 lottery team, no one is safe, tk, lindbom, jvr, provy, sanheim all need to go.

Laughable that you include Sanheim but don’t include Hayes.

 

[usahockey22flyers]

Friedman writes that Arizona, Seattle, and Buffalo are linked to JVR. Also notes the signing bonus. JVR is $4m in base salary next year

What does this mean "The Flyers have also been considering another move, although they could go in several directions"

Is that talking about JvR or something different?

 

[Diaper Mask Bandits]

What does this mean "The Flyers have also been considering another move, although they could go in several directions"

Is that talking about JvR or something different?

I'd guess they're caving into giving up the 2023 1st round pick

 

[Fight4yourRight]

What does this mean "The Flyers have also been considering another move, although they could go in several directions"

Is that talking about JvR or something different?

Probably TK and/or Provy.

 

[Psuhockey]

Friedman writes that Arizona, Seattle, and Buffalo are linked to JVR. Also notes the signing bonus. JVR is $4m in base salary next year

A good GM could move him pretty easily. A bad one who the entire league knows is desperately trying to save his job and already has a reputation for overpaying in deals is going to get taken to the cleaners.

 

[Curufinwe]

There will be so many cheap, veteran RHDs available they could have slapped on a pair with Sanheim and got as good or better results than they will get with Risto.

Braun at 1 x $1.5m >>>>>> Risto at 5 x $5.1m

 

[Diaper Mask Bandits]

all because of lindblom like seriously? we are a top 5 lottery team and you want to keep everyone that doesnt do anything. if you are top 5 lottery team, no one is safe, tk, lindbom, jvr, provy, sanheim all need to go.

The great thing is that the Flyers are doing/will be doing exactly what you want.

And over the next 5 seasons, we'll see exactly how smart you are.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

What does this mean "The Flyers have also been considering another move, although they could go in several directions"

Is that talking about JvR or something different?

The first part is probably JVR.

The only other realistic single player move that gets you somewhere in the neighborhood probably is Provorov. I'd love to see the sell unbelievably low trade that he'd do with Ivan in this cap crunch. Stuff of legend.