2022/23 Roster Thread II: Worth Every Penny

[BiggE]

Sorry if it has been posted (and it’s from Sommerman but it’s actually Friedman)

This will end well, about as well the maiden voyage of the Titanic and Custer’s trip to Little Bighorn

 

[flyersnorth]

This is going to be a rough offseason to watch.

 

[TheKingPin]

You just have to hope there is not some terrible longterm deal or loss of future assets that downgrades their future after Fletcher is finally gone.

 

[flyersnorth]

You just have to hope there is not some terrible longterm deal or loss of future assets that downgrades their future after Fletcher is finally gone.

I’m guessing both.

This off-season is already off to a discouraging start with Farabee, Ellis, and Fedotov.

 

[TheKingPin]

I’m guessing both.

This off-season is already off to a discouraging start with Farabee, Ellis, and Fedotov.

I think outside of JG, no one will want to come here. And hopefully he doesn’t want to either.

Trading future assets seems like a high probability. Trading that 2024 pick especially.

With all the bad news already about next season, even they should be very guarded about 2023 picks, including 2nd rounders.

 

[deadhead]

I have no problem trading draft picks for RFAs, because you're trading a lottery ticket for a proven NHL performer who is still cost controlled. It's when you trade high picks for players in their late 20s/early 30s, then pay them top dollar, you get in trouble.

Do you want a high risk 18 year old or a lower risk 22 year old?

Now if you're talking #5, there are few players worth that pick, but if you're talking 2nd and 3rd rd picks, a proven player is usually a better bet.

 

[Flyer lurker]

So Flyers will trade youth/picks for a player with one year left, overpay to keep, and have no cap room long term.

Those who do not learn from their mistakes are doomed to repeat them.

 

[deadhead]

Let's wait and see, it's standard OP to call everyone and ask about their availability and cost, sometimes to gather information, sometimes to create leverage for another deal.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

So Flyers will trade youth picks for a player with one year left, overpay to keep, and have no cap room long term.

Those who do not learn from their mistakes are doomed to repeat them.

Sadly this is a mistake that has repeated over and over by this organization for decades. They will never learn

 

[Beef Invictus]

Sorry if it has been posted (and it’s from Sommerman but it’s actually Friedman)

Holy shit just use your own assets to draft your own Debrincat and numerous other players instead of spending them on someone else's Debrincat. Fletcher is woeful.

 

[BernieParent]

This will end well, about as well the maiden voyage of the Titanic and Custer’s trip to Little Bighorn

General Chuckster piloting the Titanic is the best mixed historical metaphor for this team.

 

[BernieParent]

Holy shit just use your own assets to draft your own Debrincat and numerous other players instead of spending them on someone else's Debrincat. Fletcher is woeful.

I don't understand why people keep complaining the Flyers have no identity. "Buy high, sell low" is absolutely an iron-clad identity.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

I suspected the reported offer Hawks turned down as being from Flyers

- High 1st (5th overall)
- Additional 1st (Panthers 2024)
- Player/Prospect

If it is Flyers do you think Chuck comes back around before draft or moves on?

There are certainly packages from Flyers that could work from Hawks POV

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I suspected the reported offer Hawks turned down as being from Flyers

- High 1st (5th overall)
- Additional 1st (Panthers 2024)
- Player/Prospect

If it is Flyers do you think Chuck comes back around before draft or moves on?

There are certainly packages from Flyers that could work from Hawks POV

Whatever they want, Chuck will give them. There’s one thing we know about Chuck, he always gets his man!

 

[Fight4yourRight]

I suspected the reported offer Hawks turned down as being from Flyers

- High 1st (5th overall)
- Additional 1st (Panthers 2024)
- Player/Prospect

If it is Flyers do you think Chuck comes back around before draft or moves on?

There are certainly packages from Flyers that could work from Hawks POV

He will undoubtedly come back around and offer way more than Debrincat is worth.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Doubt they trade a massive haul for a small boi.

 

[Starat327]

Chuck is going to give the Hawks a haul so they can recoup assets they wasted on Jones. Because Chuck wants the other GMs to like him.
Then maybe they can all go play in the sandbox together and Chuck will be happy.

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Cuck is going to give the Hawks a haul so they can recoup assets they wasted on Jones. Because Cuck wants the other GMs to like him.
Then maybe they can all go play in the sandbox together and Cuck will be happy.

Fixed

 

[FlyerNutter]

They really could have just hung on to Giroux, for what would have likely been a reasonable new contract.

Instead of burning assets, and long term cap space.

 

[Flyer lurker]

Holy shit just use your own assets to draft your own Debrincat and numerous other players instead of spending them on someone else's Debrincat. Fletcher is woeful.

Its almost as if you could have drafted Caufield instead of York at 14. (And if you like the safer York instead of Caufield that is fine. No need to rehash.)

Or you could have taken Debrincat instead of Laberge.

But don't worry. We will get good players with our 2's in 22 and 23.

#sarcasm.

 

[Starat327]

Its almost as if you could have drafted Caufield instead of York at 14. (And if you like the safer York instead of Caufield that is fine. No need to rehash.)

Or you could have taken Debrincat instead of Laberge.

But don't worry. We will get good players with our 2's in 22 and 23.

#sarcasm.

Sure, but why not overpay assets for a player who has 1 year of control left so that you have absolutely no negotiating leverage when it comes to negotiating their next contract so you can get taken behind the woodshed for the same player a SECOND time.

Stop me if you've seen this movie before with some of the characters reprising their roles.

 

[Flyer lurker]

Sure, but why not overpay assets for a player who has 1 year of control left so that you have absolutely no negotiating leverage when it comes to negotiating their next contract so you can get taken behind the woodshed for the same player a SECOND time.

Stop me if you've seen this movie before with some of the characters reprising their roles.

Preach it!

Its watching Jack and Jill after the previous Sandler bombs and hoping THIS IS GOING TO BE THE SANDLER FILM AS GOOD AS HAPPY GILMORE!

 

[Ghosts Beer]

You trade the 5th, Frost, & Tippett for DeBrincat in a heartbeat.

York is whom you don’t want to give up.

 

[bobbythebrain]

This is gonna be a disaster. The Blackhawks GM is gonna get our next 3 x 1sts, and David F'in Putney

 

[bobbythebrain]

Let's wait and see, it's standard OP to call everyone and ask about their availability and cost, sometimes to gather information, sometimes to create leverage for another deal.

This is a 100% true. Teams do exactly that, ask for the moon at first. But what you fail accept is that Sir Flutchalot pays those premiums, no questions asked