2022/23 Roster Thread II: Worth Every Penny

[bennysflyers16]

Shouldn’t TK be the type of guy that thrives under Torts ?

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Seattle has cap and they could use someone like JVR; Seattle is pretty light, in both scoring and size, on LW. Plus, in his first season back with the Flyers was with Hak and he had a decent season.

I’m happy to read reports of interest. I just want to know what the Flyers need to attach. It’s a cap trade, not a hockey one.

 

[renberg]

How does your conspiracy theory account for the fact that Ellis looked perfect in training camp and preseason?

See Dancing Panther’s post on the subject

 

[tictactoe]

Shouldn’t TK be the type of guy that thrives under Torts ?

I bet TK will be in the world of shit during preseason games. No back checks, neutral zones turn overs, cannot get the puck or clear zone. O Trots will love HIM. TK better get some ky.

 

[Magua]

I'm trying to reconcile this suddenly conjured up Konecny narrative -- slagging his compete, his work ethic -- with what I know of him as a player, and my reality doesn't match that. The only viable narrative I see is he played for god awful coaches, had a bad shooting %, and his strengths haven't always been leveraged.

All these critiques and concerns regarding Tortorella sound more fitting of Kevin Hayes, despite the gushing. He's always come and go, but he put in a masterclass of lazy uninspired play the last few months of the season. It was the type of culture building, veteran leadership deserving of the 4th worst team.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

“The only viable narrative” excludes self-responsibility for long stretches of invisibility. Come on.

 

[deadhead]

Shouldn’t TK be the type of guy that thrives under Torts ?

Yes. I expect they'll clash a few times, Atkinson will sooth his hurt feelings, and by the end of the year they'll have a love fest.
Torts will love TKs feistiness and edge, and just nudge him further toward playing with more discipline (he's improved a lot since his rookie days).

 

[Beef Invictus]

The ridiculous overhype of Tortorella sure seems like a setup to blame the players for the team's problems.

 

[deadhead]

Seattle has cap and they could use someone like JVR; Seattle is pretty light, in both scoring and size, on LW. Plus, in his first season back with the Flyers was with Hak and he had a decent season.

JVR is a 20+ goal scorer with one year left on his deal (has TDL value).
He's not the same situation as Ghost, two year deal coming off three sub-par seasons with durability questions.

 

[usahockey22flyers]

I’d be very interested in the asking price for DeAngelo

 

[Kelmitchell2]

I seriously hate 85% of the flyers fan base "We NeEd GrIt On ThE 4Th LiNe" God I'm so sick of these f***ing idiots letting the game pass them by, and wondering why we suck so bad....these authentic morons deserve this shit ass team

 

[GapToothedWonder]

It might not be a problem surgery can fix. With extensive core issues you can fix one thing and then that makes two other things break. You fix those things and then the original thing breaks in a different way. And it's just an eternal whack-a-mole until you die.

Applies to being a Flyers fan as well.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

I had a nightmare last night that torts hired Hitchcock to be the assistant coach lol

 

[bobbythebrain]

Talking about Ellis.

He's missing his heart and ego. Those are still in Nashville

 

[wankstifier]

Why can’t we trust that Ellis is accurately reporting his injuries?

 

[usahockey22flyers]

On the Snow The Goalie pod, Ant said Ellis isn’t close and the Flyers are going to put him on LTIR on day one of the regular season.

Flyers have to be cap compliant however, so expect them to move around money to Lehigh to make this work. Also they suggested Lindblom might be waived with the intention of clearing his salary to help create space with the Ellis issue.

In theory, if they move JvR and had Ellis’ money available, that’s Johnny hockey - but the cap compliance part of this is so tricky.

Very interested to see what they do.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

On the Snow The Goalie pod, Ant said Ellis isn’t close and the Flyers are going to put him on LTIR on day one of the regular season.

Flyers have to be cap compliant however, so expect them to move around money to Lehigh to make this work. Also they suggested Lindblom might be waived with the intention of clearing his salary to help create space with the Ellis issue.

In theory, if they move JvR and had Ellis’ money available, that’s Johnny hockey - but the cap compliance part of this is so tricky.

Very interested to see what they do.

Is that good management and/or a good spot cap wise?

 

[usahockey22flyers]

Is that good management and/or a good spot cap wise?

I think Lindblom has value. So no.

I think the Flyers are done with Ellis. Could they waive Ellis? Wouldn’t shock me if he’s moved either

 

[BiggE]

I think Lindblom has value. So no.

I think the Flyers are done with Ellis. Could they waive Ellis? Wouldn’t shock me if he’s moved either

Can’t waive a player on IR. And no team is going take him due to his health and remaining term on his contract. They’ll just have to ride with him on LTIR for the foreseeable future.

Thanks Cuck

 

[Starat327]

Can’t waive a player on IR. And no team is going take him due to his health and remaining term on his contract. They’ll just have to ride with him on LTIR for the foreseeable future.

Thanks Cuck

Vegas loves LTIR Contracts, send him there. Somehow, Vegas will bend Fletcher over for that, too.

 

[Rebels57]

Francis you absolute turd, you could have taken JVR for free in the expansion draft. Not to mention Ghost or Voracek too.

How can you pass up on Carsen Twarynski though?

 

[usahockey22flyers]

Can’t waive a player on IR. And no team is going take him due to his health and remaining term on his contract. They’ll just have to ride with him on LTIR for the foreseeable future.

Thanks Cuck

Thanks. Also apparnetly Ellis right now has been under his advice of his camp. They chose Ellis’ direction with regards to his medical path.

 

[Rebels57]

On the Snow The Goalie pod, Ant said Ellis isn’t close and the Flyers are going to put him on LTIR on day one of the regular season.

Flyers have to be cap compliant however, so expect them to move around money to Lehigh to make this work. Also they suggested Lindblom might be waived with the intention of clearing his salary to help create space with the Ellis issue.

In theory, if they move JvR and had Ellis’ money available, that’s Johnny hockey - but the cap compliance part of this is so tricky.

Very interested to see what they do.

Again, he's never playing again.

 

[IronMarshal]

I’m happy to read reports of interest. I just want to know what the Flyers need to attach. It’s a cap trade, not a hockey one.

Nothing. The compensation is baked in at the trade deadline. JVR for Seattle’s 7th in 2024. Seattle deals JVR with retention at the TDL for a 2 or more likely a 3 at the TDL.

 

[usahockey22flyers]

On day 1 of the regular season, do they need to have a minimum amount of skaters? Or no?