As soon as Beekers guy becomes available, Eakins is gone. For sake of putting a time frame on it, by the TDL hes fired.
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As soon as Beekers guy becomes available, Eakins is gone. For sake of putting a time frame on it, by the TDL hes fired.
Ownership is not going to pay two coaches in a year when we aren't expected to be very good.
I know the team was better, but they didnt stand much of a chance when Bruce took over for RC the first time around.
So do you then think no matter what Eakins finishes out the year, even if they know they wont bring him back?
Yes, unless the team has a mutiny behind the scenes, which is doubtful.
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Also, he is his own man, but people do realize who Verbeek’s mentor was, correct? Everyone thought Yzerman would can Blashill immediately and he kept him for three more seasons until he thought the core matched his vision and were ready to take the leap.
Obviously, he could fire him at the end of the year (edit: the one-year extension makes it appear he’s a lame duck), but I don’t think it’s set in stone either way
Not sure where to put this…
Hopefully the skill set between Zegras, Terry, McTavish, and Klingberg. Can keep fans coming back through out the season.
Hopefully the skill set between Zegras, Terry, McTavish, and Klingberg. Can keep fans coming back through out the season.
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When Randy was first replaced by Bruce - IIRC - they had like a 10 game winless streak, and BB was just let go by the Capitals. I say stay the course with Eakins
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I don’t know if Eakins is a good coach, a bad coach, or a mediocre coach, because I don’t think he’s ever had a roster that wasn’t bottom 25% in the league, but I do appreciate the fact that the Ducks have almost never (I can only recollect 1-2 games) quit trying under him, regardless of how badly they were faring. That’s not something I can say about them under BM, BB, or BM2.
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BB's teams were known for comebacks.... what are you talking about lol You must have game 7 ptsd and forgot.
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Absolutely, but they also would quit when the game was out of reach. Eakins teams do not quit trying, even when all they’re doing is running repeatedly into a brick wall.
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I guess I’m conflicted here….
I think Eakins is a good person to have in the org…. I just don’t think it’s as a coach.
I imagine he gets canned but part of me hopes they find a better spot for him within the org.
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Ownership also is tired of loosing money ala no playoffs.. so.. there's that.
Eakins is gone the very long losing skid
Eakins is gone from the very first long losing skid
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I am concerned how there has been no defensive improvement under Eakins and last night was not a good sign
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His Capitals teams did that as well, especially in the playoffs. Game 7 at home against Pittsburgh in 2009 comes to mind. still is one of the most gutless performances that I can remember off the top of my head
That season looked lost, and they came SO close to coming back. Im really not trying to say this team is better than, or as good as that team... its not. BUT they did pay 2 coaches in the same season to try and save it.
I like Eakins for who he is. I dont think hee has ever received a fair chance in this league with a roster able to compete, but I do think hes at the end of his leash.
My God! Why are you guys spinning Eakins' obituary 1 game into the new season? We have a bunch of new kids, several new vets, and several returning vets all of whom are trying to learn how to work with each other in what for many is a brand new system. What the hell do you expect? Somebody posted that it takes 15 - 20 games to get comfortable in a new system; I don't know if that's true or not, but I KNOW it takes more than one! And @Ducks DVM posted about how this team has no quit in them; that was present last year and is now, and completely transcends system confusion and mix-ups. You guys need to CHILL and let this team demonstrate what it can be; ONE game doesn't do that. Put your useless prognostications aside; they're meaningless and change with the weather anyway.
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See you in 20 games.... It's only one game but you can tell what kind of team we are going to be. Our defense isn't going to get bigger, grow some balls, learn how to play defense. All of our defensemen other than Drysdale are what they are. Unless you want to ignore history and randomly think 30 year old defensemen are going to completely change their games and figure it out. Don't even get me started on our forwards in the D zone either. Eakins is okay for this team but we can all admit he's not a good NHL coach. He's a stopgap coach. This team looks exactly like his Oiler teams did.
Im indifferent about Eakins staying or going this year. The roster is flawed and it's a rebuild year. Trading Lindholm was idiotic especially since he said he was willing to take less to stay here. We have zero prospects that project to replace Lindholms shutdown ability. I'll cross my fingers and hope one of our D surprise me.
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I definitely remember many of those teams, especially BB but even under RC too, being able to come back a lot but I do think you're right that this is different. Those teams were just talented and that just wins out sometimes, these teams aren't and they just don't give up even when they're overmatched and others would.
For me, this has been the consistent problem in each of his years, regardless of roster quality. I think he's a good person, a decent development coach, and the players like him. But his offensive and defensive systems and in game decisions seem very subpar - the power play only got better when they hired a special coach for that.
I think Verbeek would fire Eakins in a hot minute if one of his preferred coaching candidates became available and willing to take the job (whoever that might be). A Barry Trotz type of homerun. But short of that or a major meltdown where the young players don't develop, I think Eakins survives the season and is non-renewed (or maybe kicked upstairs into management).
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The problem I have with Eakins is since he took over, the ducks are always in wrong spot defensively. The puck never seems to end up on the ducks stick. Gibson will make 3 saves and the puck will always somehow end up on the opposing teams stick. Eventually with so much roster changes over the years you have to wonder if its the system in place and not the players on the team.
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I personally think its both the players and the coach. I hate to say it but our team lacks the "want" to get the puck. We have a couple players but the vibe I get in the D zone is everyone is waiting for someone else to get the puck. We also are soft as shit in the D zone how many rebounds changes do we give up in front of the net and all our players do is stick check or try to tie sticks up. We need to be harder to play against and unfortunately that seems to be a common theme with Eakin coached teams for whatever reason.
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Actually, the competitiveness and lack of quit has been going on for two seasons: the COVID 56-game season and last year. It's because of the COVID season that I felt confident that team could be competitive next season if healthy. And they were in a playoff spot when healthy.
This competitiveness and lack of quit can be proven by showing how many 1-goal differential game outcomes we were in the past two seasons.
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=== Lord of the Rings version: Competitiveness proof via 1-goal games ===
Read at your own risk! | Ducks | COVID season | |||||||||
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| Year | Type of Games | Games | W | L | OTL | Pts | Pct of games | Point Share | ||
| 2020-21 | Total | 56 | 17 | 30 | 9 | 43 | 100.0% | 38.4% | ||
| 1-goal games | 29 | 10 | 10 | 9 | 29 | 51.8% | 50.0% | |||
| Non 1-g games | 27 | 7 | 20 | 0 | 14 | 48.2% | 25.9% |
Lindholm missed 38 games, Manson missed 33 games, and Fowler missed none. The weird part about the COVID season was the stark differences between our home and away games. Home: 6-18-4 (16 pts). Away: 11-12-5 (27).
=== Last year will be broken into three parts.
| Ducks | Healthy Roster | |||||||||
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| Year Schedule | Game Set Splits | Games | W | L | OTL | Pts | Pct of games | Point Share | ||
| 2021-22 | Games 1 - 33 | 33 | 17 | 9 | 7 | 41 | 100.0% | 62.1% | ||
| 1-goal games | 20 | 7 | 6 | 7 | 21 | 60.6% | 52.5% | |||
| Non 1-g games | 13 | 10 | 3 | 0 | 20 | 39.4% | 76.9% |
When healthy, the team nearly exacted the same points generated in 23 fewer games. The significant difference is the team was more dominant in non 1-goal games.
| Ducks | Not Healthy D | |||||||||
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| Year Schedule | Game Set Splits | Games | W | L | OTL | Pts | Pct of games | Point Share | ||
| 2021-22 | Gm 34-62 | 29 | 10 | 16 | 3 | 23 | 100.0% | 39.7% | ||
| 1-goal games | 12 | 6 | 3 | 3 | 15 | 41.4% | 62.5% | |||
| Non 1-g games | 17 | 4 | 13 | 0 | 8 | 58.6% | 23.5% |
In this game set, the trio of Lindholm, Fowler, and Manson started to take a hit. Lindholm missed 2 games, Fowler missed 4 games, and Manson missed 16 games. If one of the trio defensemen were out, then we would have three rookies on the ice at the same time with Drysdale, Benoit, and Mahura. For perspective, Mahura is no longer with the team and Benoit didn't get the nod to play in the first game of the season.
We are in fewer 1-goal games, but we are on the winning end. The team took a hit in non 1-goal events. Anaheim needed more talent on the back end, but there wasn't a GM between Nov and January to facilitate a trade to keep the Ducks more competitive. But once Verbeek became GM, Verbeek didn't want to add a defenseman during the Olympic break. Manson missed his first game due to injury in the last game before the break and days before Verbeek was named the new GM.
| Ducks | After TDL | |||||||||
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| Year Schedule | Game Set Splits | Games | W | L | OTL | Pts | Pct of games | Point Share | ||
| 2021-22 | Games 63-82 | 20 | 4 | 12 | 4 | 12 | 100.0% | 30.0% | ||
| 1-goal games | 6 | 0 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 30.0% | 33.3% | |||
| Non 1-g games | 14 | 4 | 10 | 0 | 8 | 70.0% | 28.6% |
Most of the grittiness was removed at the TDL with D Lindholm, D Manson, and F Des shipped off. Some offense was gone with Rakell being traded away as well.
By all accounts, we should have been blown out in all those games because Verbeek didn't get any solid NHL'ers back in the trades. Eeked out 30% of the games to be close games.
Two years of competitiveness under Eakins. The second season showed with a talented and balanced team, Eakins has coached his team to atop the Pacific division. When injuries piled up, Anaheim lacked talented depth and defensive balance.
Going into this season, there's talent on the team, but it's not a balanced team. The team is heavily skewed to an offensive one. Also, there was a high turnover in the roster. Still, the team battled back in the first game of the season after going down 3-1 in the second period and 4-2 early in the third period.
I think this is a very questionable (and very likely inaccurate) conclusion, particularly when you're talking about a roster that was much less talented than most opponents.
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Truly your logic is dismal.
You just had several people say the team didn't quit and kept competing. You get that by watching the team. If you didn't watch the team and don't have access to watch the team, then showing how many one-goal games the team was involved with a less talented team shows the competitiveness. Despite the losing plenty in COVID season, the team kept fighting with several one-goal games. The stats/table match the eye test. That's just common sense if one is able to understand tables and stats.
Going into year 3, we see the team coming back from a two goal deficit to win in OT. Oh my, yet another one-goal differential game. People are noticing the lack of quit on this team. They just didn't notice it's been here for the past two previous seasons. Just like you didn't notice with your post b/c you can't decipher stats in a table.
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