Speculation: 2022-23 Management/Coaching/Ownership

[Hockey Duckie]

He had the tail end of Terry, and he was going to be a player regardless just needed some weight... I give Geztlaf a lot of the credit for Terry you can see flashes of him in Terry's game. Zegras is an all world prospect; I don't think he has done much for him other than give him a long leash (which is probably more of a management decision). Kinda like how Hall, RNH were always good players regardless, Eakins just made it miserable for him just like he's doing for our two young stars. I guess we can consider Steel our Yakupov and hopefully he hasn't f***ed Drysdale up too bad already. It's alarming how much we look like the Eakin oilers, defensively and effort/want-wise. So much standing around hoping someone else can get the puck.

Ahhh... look at the double standard on full display! Oh me, oh my! How predictable.

* So Getz is the reason Terry finally flourished? So does that mean Getz is also the reason why Steel didn't flourish?​

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* Zegras was amazing last year, but that's not on Eakins. Zegras is struggling this year, but it's on Eakins.​

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=== Tell me Lies ===

He had the tail end of Terry, and he was going to be a player regardless just needed some weight...

Eakins Coaching with Ducks org

San Diego, AHL: 2015 - 2019​

Anaheim, NHL: 2019 - present (2022 - 23 season)​

Terry Career with Ducks org

San Diego, AHL: 2018 - 2020​

Anaheim, NHL: 2018 - present (2022 - 23 season)​

Eakins coached Terry in San Diego for the 2018-19 season. Eakins has been coaching Terry since the 2019-20 season at the NHL level. And it only took four years for Terry to finally bulk up.

If a person can straight up lie about Eakins only being around "the tail end of Terry", then what else can he lie about effortlessly?

 

[Deuce22]

A head coach could and sometimes does, but that totally defeats the purpose of having said assistant coaches.

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Eakins took control over the PP unit late in the COVID season, which signified to Murray to get better assistant coaches and Murray did. If Eakins is in charge of the PP, then he's taking on two jobs. Eakins was so dismayed that he threw any five players on the 2nd PP 5-on-3 unit against the Wings.

From Dillman article:

“We just didn’t execute,” Ducks coach Dallas Eakins said. “We had the unit out there – that we (had) worked on some stuff on the five on three. It was so atrocious that I just grabbed five guys on the bench and threw them out for the second part. And what was interesting is that’s when we got a couple of chances. We have five. They have three. This isn’t complicated. But that’s the level of frustration.”​

Eakins didn't have to do that with last year's PP unit.

2020-21 PP unit

Coaches: Morrison (iirc)​

Season = 11 for 123, or 8.94% efficiency​

2021-22 PP unit

Coaches: Ward & Brown​

First six games = 6 for 18, or 33.3% efficiency​

2022-23 PP unit

Coaches: Brown & Johnson​

First six games = 2 for 20, or 10.0% efficiency​

We have more offensive talent this season than last season, but we're sucking fumes. We lost Ward during the summer. I keep reiterating we lost Ward and that Eakins isn't in charge of the PP unit, but it's falling on deaf ears and narrative eyes.

Eakins doesn't have to be "in charge" of the PK or PP. He just needs to tell whoever is what needs to change. Personnel, alignment, etc. I can't imagine a competent HC seeing the Ducks PK out there game after game and thinking, "No, I gave him the PK, so I can't interfere."

 

[McDonald19]

If the Ducks are seen as a soft team or teams are able to impose their will physically on them it's not because they are undersized. (because they aren't undersized)

I don’t think anyone is saying the Ducks are too small.

Fowler is 6’2 215 and he is the posterboy for soft hockey.

 

[McDonald19]

* So Getz is the reason Terry finally flourished? So does that mean Getz is also the reason why Steel didn't flourish?

Did Steel ever have ice time with Getzlaf?

Why did Eakins attach Terry to Getzlaf’s hip, and try to turn Steel into a defensive line checker?

 

[bsu]

Ahhh... look at the double standard on full display! Oh me, oh my! How predictable.

* So Getz is the reason Terry finally flourished? So does that mean Getz is also the reason why Steel didn't flourish?​

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* Zegras was amazing last year, but that's not on Eakins. Zegras is struggling this year, but it's on Eakins.​

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=== Tell me Lies ===



Eakins Coaching with Ducks org

San Diego, AHL: 2015 - 2019​

Anaheim, NHL: 2019 - present (2022 - 23 season)​

Terry Career with Ducks org

San Diego, AHL: 2018 - 2020​

Anaheim, NHL: 2018 - present (2022 - 23 season)​

Eakins coached Terry in San Diego for the 2018-19 season. Eakins has been coaching Terry since the 2019-20 season at the NHL level. And it only took four years for Terry to finally bulk up.

If a person can straight up lie about Eakins only being around "the tail end of Terry", then what else can he lie about effortlessly?

You are one strange man. I don't know what else I needed to put on my post but as usual tldr.

Did Steel ever have ice time with Getzlaf?

Why did Eakins attach Terry to Getzlaf’s hip, and try to turn Steel into a defensive line checker?

Because anyone could see Terry got it, just needed extra marinating and to gain some weight.

I don’t think anyone is saying the Ducks are too small.

Fowler is 6’2 215 and he is the posterboy for soft hockey.

Yessir

 

[bsu]

Eakins doesn't have to be "in charge" of the PK or PP. He just needs to tell whoever is what needs to change. Personnel, alignment, etc. I can't imagine a competent HC seeing the Ducks PK out there game after game and thinking, "No, I gave him the PK, so I can't interfere."

Exactly.... But he thinks Dallas Eakins led a division winner (even though we played more games than every team in the league at that point, in a pandemic year, in a small sample size)

 

[dracom]

if Sheldon keefe gets fired would anyone want to take a chance on him?

 

[KaseMeOutside]

unless the Elite Prospects site is wrong, the Ducks are currently the 2nd biggest team in the league with an avg. player weight of 204 lbs.... only Tampa is currently bigger with a 206 lb average per player.

They are bigger than just about all the top/elite teams. (other than Tampa)

Florida's avg. player weight is 193 lbs.
Toronto's is 194 lbs.
Colorado's is 195 lbs.
Rangers' is 200 lbs.
Boston's is 200 lbs.

The average Duck player outweighs the average Toronto player by 10 lbs.

If the Ducks are seen as a soft team or teams are able to impose their will physically on them it's not because they are undersized. (because they aren't undersized)

I dont care about height or weight, are you watching the games? Physicality and toughness is a mindset

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

I wonder if he we lose the next 3 games.. That would be a 8 game losing streak.. Would they let him go?

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

I wonder if he we lose the next 3 games.. That would be a 8 game losing streak.. Would they let him go?

I doubt it.

If they brought him back after 3 years of garbage hockey, why would they fire him for doing what he's always done?

I'm convinced that he's only here to get the ducks Bedard and he's such a bad coach that despite having a better roster than the sharks, Blackhawks and coyotes he might just get the job done.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

I doubt it.

If they brought him back after 3 years of garbage hockey, why would they fire him for doing what he's always done?

I'm convinced that he's only here to get the ducks Bedard and he's such a bad coach that despite having a better roster than the sharks, Blackhawks and coyotes he might just get the job done.

Yah if that that happens. Than I know Verbeek has told them to tank on purpose.

 

[pbgoalie]

I don’t think anyone is saying the Ducks are too small.

Fowler is 6’2 215 and he is the posterboy for soft hockey.

Watching a replay of the wings game

Has Fowler set the team career record for block shots from the point yet? Even his shot is soft

 

[Goose of Reason]

Did Steel ever have ice time with Getzlaf?

Why did Eakins attach Terry to Getzlaf’s hip, and try to turn Steel into a defensive line checker?

So did Eakins ruin Zegras by not stapling him to Getzlaf's wing? You're comparing a winger against 2 centers. When Steel first came into the league he played with Rakell and Silf. When Z first started at center he played with Rakell and Silf. He got the exact linemates and zone usage as Steel. Don't you think it might be on the player that one guy ran with it and the other never progressed?

 

[McDonald19]

So did Eakins ruin Zegras by not stapling him to Getzlaf's wing? You're comparing a winger against 2 centers. When Steel first came into the league he played with Rakell and Silf. When Z first started at center he played with Rakell and Silf. He got the exact linemates and zone usage as Steel. Don't you think it might be on the player that one guy ran with it and the other never progressed?

Steel didn’t have to be a center. McTavish is currently on left wing.

I’m not a Steel fan, but he wasn’t exactly put in great situations by the Ducks organization.

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

Watching a replay of the wings game

Has Fowler set the team career record for block shots from the point yet? Even his shot is soft

It's like he finally figured it out last year but totally forgot. If you're going to have your shot blocked, at least make it past the first forward.

 

[Kalv]

There has been a lot of people wanting us to nab Bruce when he (probably) soon becomes available.

That would not be a good look The only team below us in the standings now is Vancouver They don't even have one win, albeit our goal differential is worse.

I've been curious about Tocchet myself, not sure how good he is. He has a bad record as well, but well he had to coach the Yotes and they have been worse when he left.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

There has been a lot of people wanting us to nab Bruce when he (probably) soon becomes available.

That would not be a good look The only team below us in the standings now is Vancouver They don't even have one win, albeit our goal differential is worse.

I've been curious about Tocchet myself, not sure how good he is. He has a bad record as well, but well he had to coach the Yotes and they have been worse when he left.

I wouldn't want to gamble on Tocchet.

 

[mighty Stanley Duck]

We will end up giving Klingberg 6 years x 6-7 mil.

 

[Arthuros]

We will end up giving Klingberg 6 years x 6-7 mil.

Based on the way he's been playing, I wouldn't even give him $3M x 3 years.

 

[Kalv]

I wouldn't want to gamble on Tocchet.

It would be a gamble for sure. For any team, he feels also more of a offseason hire.

But looking at the market, he and Trotz are probably the biggest fish out there and didn't feel like we should be a Trotz team so... something intrigues me with Tocchet, but I completely agree that he's not the most idealest of ideal solutions. We have no ideal solutions right now

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

We will end up giving Klingberg 6 years x 6-7 mil.

Thats not happening..

 

[bsu]

No on Tocchet

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

I wouldn't want to gamble on Tocchet.

C'mon people, look it up.

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

C'mon people, look it up.

For those who didn't know:

 

[Bender66]

No no Tocchet. His "takes" on tv are terrible, you can tell game has passed him by. Now he is just in old man yelling at clouds mode all the damn time