OK replace 95% with "most" if you are so hung up with a number. My point still stand. Most of the faceoffs end up as an icing against. That is still very important PP time that we are losing which could means a few extra Ws in the season and most important during the playoffs.Literally just making up stats now to help your argument.
Usually a sign to step away when made up stays come into play.
Keep believing what you want to believe.
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Not only that, but I cannot stand when linesmen are trigger happy and want to kick out centres the first chance they can. Just get them set and drop the f***ing puck. Stop making the game about you. Nobody shows up to watch a linesmen kick players out of faceoffs.
You can give me all the numbers you want but one thing will not change....the team that has possession of the puck is the team that has a chance to score. I much prefer my team being in the offensive zone on the PP and having a chance to score than having it retrieving the puck after an icing from a lost faceoffs. Call me crazy.But that isn't even true though...
We can actually do the real math here to get a rough idea of the numbers if you want. And look at it in a couple of different ways.
So far this year the Avs have had 190 PP Faceoffs, they've won 75 and lost 115 for a 40% win rate. If you consider 50% to be the true fair outcome rate(Which based on pure simple probability, is accurate), that means they've lost 20 faceoffs more then what they should have under theoretical averages.
If you also then assume every lost faceoff results in 15 seconds of lost PP time... 5:15 of PP time has been wasted by the Avs so far. Or over the course of a full 82 game season using these numbers, you're talking ~12:15 of PP time wasted on lost faceoffs above theoretical average.
Now look at Colorado's PP goals/60. The Avs have spent 171 minutes on the PP this year and have 29 goals scored. That works out to roughly 10.175 Goals every 60 minutes of PP time... or 1 PPG every 5:55 of PP ice time.
That means if the Avs were a 50% faceoff team on the PP instead of 40%, over the course of an entire season, they would score 2.0 extra goals. That's ~1 additional win.
EDIT: Actually, its not even close to 1 additional win. Somebody else already did this math. One extra win in the standings is worth an average of 5.18 goals. So an additional 2 goals over an entire season gets you about 0.4 wins.
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Now, you could even go to the complete, unrealistic extreme for the argument. What if Colorado was the first team in league history to win 100% of its faceoffs on the PP. So far on the season, that would be an extra 28.75 Minutes of PP time. Or about 4.65 goals.
Over the course of an entire season, it would be ~76.2 minutes of additional non wasted PP time. Or just under 13 goals.
So if the Avs won 100% of faceoffs on the PP all season long, they'd score an additional ~13 Powerplay Goals. If they actually won the league average rate of 50% instead of the current 40%, they'd score 2 goals more in 82 games. Yep, that certainly seems like a statistic that shows the value of winning a faceoff on the PP.
Basically the argument is that faceoffs matter on the PP to the tune of 0.025 Goals per game.
That's exactly the quality of response I've come to expect from you. Well done once again.
And a laughing emoji is the kind of response we have come to expect from you.
No it's not the only way but you can't argue that most of lost faceoffs on the PP result in an icing against. That is just a fact. You win the faceoff and your chance of setting up in the zone and therefore having possession is much greater.
Because it really doesn't matter what the numbers say. If it creates an advantage, however small it is, it is still an advantage to win the faceoff on PP and on PK. Why do coaches put their forwards in a better position to win them if they are not important? Heck they even decide which player will take the faceoff depending on handedness.
Have not yet had that opportunity. Also the only train station I’ve ever been to is in Denver and is no longer a train station.
To help Avs win another Cup indeed. Could there be anything more rewarding than that?
He sucks. 5th year in the league, got plenty of opportunities and he's still bad.
I'm not sure what you mean by that? If you are saying that I meant every time a team wins a faceoff in a game they are certain to have possession then let me tell you that is not what I meant. First of all I was strictly speaking about faceoffs on the PP. With that said I stand by my comment that if you win a PP faceoff in the offensive zone you certainly GREATLY improve your chance to have possession. This is due to the fact that the other team only has 4 guys on the ice so they will go right away into their defensive setup giving the team winning the faceoff a great chance of setting up properly. Now they might screw up that possession quickly sometimes but they usually have possession after winning the faceoff.
Dude has shown zero progression in 5 years.
