Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: The Search for a 2C
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- Jul 25, 2006
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Sea Eagle, is that you?
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Holland was absolutely stupid to hold onto Poolparty this long. Just cut your losses and move on, he's a bust.
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Didn’t Friedman say yesterday that a Horvat extension is becoming less and less likely.
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They really just want to get rid of Boeser.
I think whatever team that gets Boeser is really going to like him compared to the cost that they get him for. He could be had right now for a late 2nd and a meh prospect... and while he is a pretty flawed hockey player, he can pop 25 goals with maybe 35 as an ultimate upside. If the Avs needed wingers instead of a a center, I'd be pounding the table for him. I think he ends up in a place like NYI and flourishes there.
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40 points is a big jump up in scoring considering he’s pacing for 31 points. I get he’ll get lesser competition and better linemates as the season progresses, but will also receive less opportunity.
I think he’ll get around $3.5m, with Necas and Dach being close comparables. Look at what Lehkonen took and I have a hard time seeing Newhook getting close to that.
Lehkonen is more of an argument for Newhook than against him....got 4.5m per with his highest scoring year being 38 points and only crossing 30 one other time in his career. Newhook already has a 33 point season as a rookie and if he gets 40 (which I think is realistic... pacing this early can change quite easily), he'll have the ability to argue for a 4.5m deal. Working against him is he won't have arbitration rights to set a deadline and Avs can hardball him.
For next season, the Avs really need a low cap hit number for him, so I can see some hardball... but it may not be the worst thing to go after a longer-term security type deal for him. If you can get a 4/5 year deal in the 3s, that has a chance to be a value contract in 2 years.
Again....which kind of shows you what the rest of the league thinks about him.
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Avs_19
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Puljujarvi wasn't as good as his underlying numbers suggested last year (McDavid helped, who knew?) but he's also not as bad as his numbers suggest this season. He's shooting like 2% right now. Whichever of Elliotte/Marek called him a broken man said it perfectly. There's zero confidence right now and it's hard to see that changing. There's a human element to all of this too and I can't imagine it's easy when you have all of the pressure of being the bust of a top 5 pick, in trade rumours literally every season, and then on top of that you have jackasses in the local media like Mark Spector beating you down at every turn.
Who knows how good he can or will be but he needs out of Edmonton badly. It doesn't help matters that the idiot who has tried to trade him for a few years is the same idiot who signed him to a $3M contract at a time when no teams have money to spend. He can help some teams.
Who knows how good he can or will be but he needs out of Edmonton badly. It doesn't help matters that the idiot who has tried to trade him for a few years is the same idiot who signed him to a $3M contract at a time when no teams have money to spend. He can help some teams.
The $3m really isn't Holland's fault... they were going to head to arbitration where Poolparty had a decent case of 3.5-4m (with some risk) and that didn't reach the walk away threshold. So there was a floor to the contract.
To me, Puljujarvi is a bad 3rd liner. Not a guy you really want in that role because he does some really stupid things... but he's physically talented and has enough there that he's hard to put lower in the lineup. Putting him on a team like Arizona that plays a man defensive system and really desires having a big forechecker on every line in the top 9, that's about the best place for him. In a role like that you might see him round into a low end 2nd liner. Won't happen, but I think he could do well in Calgary too.
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I'd give him a shot if he made half of what he's making right now. Hope for some Fin magic with Lehkonen-Rantanen-Puljujärvi.
Puljujarvi is such an oddball hockey player. Apparently he's phenomenal at getting the puck, but then can't do anything with it once it's on his stick. His passing and shooting are below-average, so if he works at all at the NHL level it's going to be in a highly specialized depth role.
I wouldn't because of arbitration risk... you end up having to walk away from players because of it. Then the cost to acquire becomes too high. A waivers guy like NAK is fine for that... but actually sending a 2nd or 3rd then having to let them walk like a rental is no bueno. Get players who actually fit and are actually good at this point.
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You assume that, or there has been official report that Vancouver wants to trade Boeser to resign Horvat? I mean that can very well be the case, but so far all I'm hearing is Horvat will probably be traded? Vancouver still has players to resign like Kuzmenko
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dahrougem2
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Puljujarvi is trying to do anything he can. Last year he wouldn't touch a soul on the ice, this season he is amongst the Oilers leaders in hits and separating players from pucks.
There is something there with this player but it damn sure won't be unleashed in Edmonton. He won't be a true "4th overall pick" by putting up 80+ point seasons but I think he can be a useful NHL hockey player.
There is something there with this player but it damn sure won't be unleashed in Edmonton. He won't be a true "4th overall pick" by putting up 80+ point seasons but I think he can be a useful NHL hockey player.
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His value is at the point where I don't think he'd even cost a 2nd if a team wanted him. They reportedly wanted a 2nd this past offseason and things have gone horribly since then. I think we're getting to like Bowers (or sub him for another random prospect) and a 4th territory. Still won't work with the cap for the Avs but he'll likely be cheap for some team.
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