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Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: The Search for a 2C

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Balthazar said:
That's why I had an issue with the 6 year term at the time. Same with Makar. I'd rather have the two extra years for a bit higher AAV.
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That extra $2-3M in cap space it would have taken to sign them longer, will come in handy the next few years.
 
Pierce Hawthorne said:
How? Nuke isn't anywhere near the skill level of guys like Hintz, Stutzle, Thompson... Those are basically the next wave of 1Cs in the league. Nuke is a complimentary Top 6 guy. Not the same at all. Not to mention Nuke is 3-4+ years older then those guys as well.

Landy is more higher end, but also a lot older. His contract will age considerably worse then the rest of those guys.


They aren't comparable at all really.
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Nuke is elite two way winger. Come back when those guys win something..

These guys would cost way more if they won a cup, keep that in mind.
 
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Didn't realize Kadri was this bad this year
 
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The Abusement Park said:
I mean who cares? The backend of all these contracts were signing won't matter.
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It's possible that it might. If the Avs management get things right combined with the cap rising they can be a solid team for a while.

One thing is sure though, handing 7 year deals for players until they are nearly 40 will be a guaranteed way to be in cap hell very soon.
 
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TruePowerSlave said:
It's possible that it might. If the Avs management get things right combined with the cap rising they can be a solid team for a while.

One thing is sure though, handing 7 year deals for players until they are nearly 40 will be a guaranteed way to be in cap hell very soon.
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I mean I don’t think it will. Unless the Avs drafting takes a major U-Turn here I don’t see these contracts having a huge detriment to the team.
 
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The Abusement Park said:
I mean I don’t think it will. Unless the Avs drafting takes a major U-Turn here I don’t see these contracts having a huge detriment to the team.
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Entirely possible. However, the pro scouting has pulled rabbits out of a hat before and it might happen again. If that were to happen the Avs could stay pretty solid for quite a while, it would be really difficult though if they start handing Kadri type retirement deals.
 
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TruePowerSlave said:
Entirely possible. However, the pro scouting has pulled rabbits out of a hat before and it might happen again. If that were to happen the Avs could stay pretty solid for quite a while, it would be really difficult though if they start handing Kadri type retirement deals.
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I mean it would only come into effect if we’re able to effectively replace Mack, Mikko, or Landy really. And while the pro scouting has obviously been really good, it most likely won’t replace those guys.
 
The Abusement Park said:
I mean it would only come into effect if we’re able to effectively replace Mack, Mikko, or Landy really. And while the pro scouting has obviously been really good, it most likely won’t replace those guys.
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Hand out Kadri type deals it becomes really difficult after another season or two. Show restrain and they can keep the show going longer. Bottom line I just don’t support bad deals.
 
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It would be nothing short of a miracle if they could hang on to that 1st round pick this year and pick up a 2C still somehow. That ELC would help so much and if this draft is as deep as some think that player could help soon
 
TruePowerSlave said:
Hand out Kadri type deals it becomes really difficult after another season or two. Show restrain and they can keep the show going longer. Bottom line I just don’t support bad deals.
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With the deals on the books now, and coming in the next two years... it is going to be hard anyway.

I get the why Kadri shouldn't have been re-signed. What I don't get is a lack of urgency to handle the 2C spot. Newhook clearly wasn't the answer and clearly still isn't the answer.
 
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I also think that no one knew the cap was jumping as high when the Avalanche were making the decisions and MacKinnon’s raise looming next year.
 
Hasbro said:
I also think that no one knew the cap was jumping as high when the Avalanche were making the decisions and MacKinnon’s raise looming next year.
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We still don't know where the cap is heading, but the teams knew in June where things were heading from the NHL's perspective.

Always worth noting that the word from the NHL offices is always on the optimistic side of things.
 
henchman24 said:
With the deals on the books now, and coming in the next two years... it is going to be hard anyway.

I get the why Kadri shouldn't have been re-signed. What I don't get is a lack of urgency to handle the 2C spot. Newhook clearly wasn't the answer and clearly still isn't the answer.
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Considering ERod was the 2C prior to getting hurt I would argue that the Avs are starting to admit Newy is not a C. I would also argue that they don't yet feel urgency because
1. They are still winning most of their games,
2. some guys are getting closer to coming back, so
3. it allows them to wait as close as they can to the TDL to get a 2C when it will be more affordable for them cap-wise.
 
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