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Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: The Search for a 2C

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dahrougem2 said:
Why does Ottawa want Chychrun or any LHD? They have Chabot and Sanderson. That'd create an epic log jam unless you force one of them to play RD.
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My guess is one will move to the right, but could also be they want 3 pairings to rotate with similar minutes then condense like the Avs do when they need to. They are also poking around Gavrikov too. So they clearly want a left shot, bigger defensemen.
 
The Abusement Park said:
Better than Sakic? Thats a tough ask, but he could do it. Would need to see it happen before I say he is though.
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It's definitely possible. He could be a Norris finalist 10 years in a row with multiple wins and nobody would be that suprised.

Makar's start has been spectacular and puts him right there with the all time greats. It's very early though and anything can happen.
 
henchman24 said:
My guess is one will move to the right, but could also be they want 3 pairings to rotate with similar minutes then condense like the Avs do when they need to. They are also poking around Gavrikov too. So they clearly want a left shot, bigger defensemen.
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I'll never be a believer in moving left defensemen to the right and vice versa. Just feel like it hurts puck retrievals and breakouts.

Who Ottawa really needs to be targeting is Erik Karlsson :naughty:
 
dahrougem2 said:
I'll never be a believer in moving left defensemen to the right and vice versa. Just feel like it hurts puck retrievals and breakouts.

Who Ottawa really needs to be targeting is Erik Karlsson :naughty:
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You're right about the first part.

Ottawa needs a RHD but top 4 RHD are as rare as top 6 centers (which is why we signed Manson).
 
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dahrougem2 said:
I'll never be a believer in moving left defensemen to the right and vice versa. Just feel like it hurts puck retrievals and breakouts.

Who Ottawa really needs to be targeting is Erik Karlsson :naughty:
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I think it is all relative on the player... some players simply play better on their off hand (Brodie and Weegar as two clear examples today), some can play either side with relative ease, and some struggle on their off hands.

Chychrun is a guy who can play both sides with relative ease. He showed it a ton in his younger days and has played the right with Arizona some. I wouldn't worry about him being solely a LD.

The guy I'd love to see in Ottawa is Ghost. He could change that whole power play and be a guy you bury 5v5 with their LD depth. Doesn't fit how they are building though.
 
dahrougem2 said:
What helps the Tampas and Bostons of the world is that their players also take more team friendly contracts. Kucherov makes 9.5, guy should be making at least 12. Stamkos at 8.5 he should be at least 9.5. Hedman at 7.875 should be at least 10.

Then you have Boston. F***ing Marchand is a top-10 player in the league making 6.125. Bergeron for years was underpaid making 6.875 and this year only makes 2.5. Pastrnak making 6.67.

When your best players are making way less than they "should" be making, you can stack the rest of your team if you do things properly. Yes drafting plays a huge role in team success and these two teams are two of the better drafting teams (Boston 2015 snafu aside), but the cap work is masterful as well.

The Avs were able to win last year because we had MacKinnon making half of what he's worth, Kadri making probably 2/3 of what he's worth, Byram on an ELC, Nichushkin making a fraction of what he's worth and Kuemper retained from Arizona. That shit adds up. Now? Not so much.
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A good chunk of that cap benefit was nullified by EJ's contract. Unless they really mess-up their cap with some weird move, with the expected raise of the cap over the next three years and the fact that a lot of their core players are already signed to long term deals, its not the cap that will close the Avs cup window. It will be the ageing of its superstar. They will having tweaking to do, which will mainly translate into losing a top4 Dman, period. Next year was the expected tough year, but even that might be saved with the potential unexpected cap raise. Whether its going to close in 2 years or in 4 years will depend on the ageing process. For some reason some refuses to admit it but the Avs have done a very good job of managing the cap short term AND long term. That Team will remain a top contender for as long as their top superstars will carry them.
 
What’s y’all’s opionon on Joel Erickson ek. He’s signed for another seven years at 5 and some change any chance Minnesota would trade him
 
lionsDen said:
What’s y’all’s opionon on Joel Erickson ek. He’s signed for another seven years at 5 and some change any chance Minnesota would trade him
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According to Daily Faceoffs he's their 3C.

5.25M X 7 is pretty expensive for a 3C, so yeah I'm sure they'd possibly move him.

What's scary is that the two centers ahead of him are Gaudreau and Dewar. Not exactly a Crosby/Malkin situation.
 
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Balthazar said:
According to Daily Faceoffs he's their 3C.

5.25M X 7 is pretty expensive for a 3C, so yeah I'm sure they'd possibly move him.

What's scary is that the two centers ahead of him are Gaudreau and Dewar. Not exactly a Crosby/Malkin situation.
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He is not their 3 C, guy led all forwards in ice time tonight.
 
Perratrooper said:
Byram at least
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Yep. Byram++

JEE is extremely underrated and he's signed to a phenomenal contract for the rest of his prime.

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Yeah, no chance they trade him... But he would be the sort you move a Byram + Newhook type of package for. That's your 2C for the next 7 years making just a fraction over $5M.

26 Goals and 49 points in 77 games last year. Doesn't sound that impressive, but his 5 on 5 minutes were pretty limited(Only 13:30 a game), he's a #1 PKer sort and a threat offensively on the PK.

And as indicated above he's a classic example of a guy who's expected goals for are significantly outpacing his actual goals for. The type of player who usually breaks out at some point as those numbers normalize and on an Avs roster in particular he would stand an especially good chance of seeing that happen.

As the 2C with the Avs centering Nuke/Landy you would have a true shut down line that could also generate really solid offense as well. 30 Goals/60 points would be fairly reasonable for JEE here.


Again, I dont see any chance they trade him. He's the best Center they have by far. But if the Avs put Byram on the table, he's the type of trade chip you maybe "shake loose"
 
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Pierce Hawthorne said:
Yep. Byram++

JEE is extremely underrated and he's signed to a phenomenal contract for the rest of his prime.

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Yeah, no chance they trade him... But he would be the sort you move a Byram + Newhook type of package for. That's your 2C for the next 7 years making just a fraction over $5M.

26 Goals and 49 points in 77 games last year. Doesn't sound that impressive, but his 5 on 5 minutes were pretty limited(Only 13:30 a game), he's a #1 PKer sort and a threat offensively on the PK.

And as indicated above he's a classic example of a guy who's expected goals for are significantly outpacing his actual goals for. The type of player who usually breaks out at some point as those numbers normalize and on an Avs roster in particular he would stand an especially good chance of seeing that happen.

As the 2C with the Avs centering Nuke/Landy you would have a true shut down line that could also generate really solid offense as well. 30 Goals/60 points would be fairly reasonable for JEE here.


Again, I dont see any chance they trade him. He's the best Center they have by far. But if the Avs put Byram on the table, he's the type of trade chip you maybe "shake loose"
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Then you could actually "spend" on the bottom 6. Probably afford re-signing Mikko.
 
Pierce Hawthorne said:
Yep. Byram++

JEE is extremely underrated and he's signed to a phenomenal contract for the rest of his prime.

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Yeah, no chance they trade him... But he would be the sort you move a Byram + Newhook type of package for. That's your 2C for the next 7 years making just a fraction over $5M.

26 Goals and 49 points in 77 games last year. Doesn't sound that impressive, but his 5 on 5 minutes were pretty limited(Only 13:30 a game), he's a #1 PKer sort and a threat offensively on the PK.

And as indicated above he's a classic example of a guy who's expected goals for are significantly outpacing his actual goals for. The type of player who usually breaks out at some point as those numbers normalize and on an Avs roster in particular he would stand an especially good chance of seeing that happen.

As the 2C with the Avs centering Nuke/Landy you would have a true shut down line that could also generate really solid offense as well. 30 Goals/60 points would be fairly reasonable for JEE here.


Again, I dont see any chance they trade him. He's the best Center they have by far. But if the Avs put Byram on the table, he's the type of trade chip you maybe "shake loose"
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I'd do Byram and Newhook for JEE.

Byram just cannot stay healthy. He has 1D upside but offers nothing if he is always on the IR.

JEE would be a phenomenal addition.
 
That's great stuff, Hughes was Bergeron's agent at the time

 
Balthazar said:
That's great stuff, Hughes was Bergeron's agent at the time

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I don't blame a player for getting paid market. It is well within their rights, but that is a clear example of how Bergeron has allowed the Bruins to be so good for so long (helps he simply doesn't drop off).
 
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