Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency (Mod Warning in OP)

[JoeSakic13]

NYI went to the ECF two years in a row, winning against everyone they faced except for Tampa Bay, who they pushed to 6-7 games both times.

Last season was a failure but there was some extenuating circumstances, like starting the season with s huge roadtrip, illness, and injuries to key players.

It's not unfathomable that they could make another run by replacing someone like Bailey with Kadri. Even if they just finish in the WC spots they're still a team built for the playoffs and can cause problems for anyone.

Oh no doubt they’re gonna be better than last year. Mind you that’s a very low set bar.

However I don’t think they’re a team I’d consider more than a playoff contender going into this season. Sure they have a lot of similarities to those LA Kings teams, but I don’t see them being a dark horse (or is it house…..) pick for the postseason.

 

[Alienblood]

Byram will be our next Captain. Trust me.

Our future best all around player and one of the most untouchable pieces.

Who in their right mind would trade him ?

 

[Alienblood]

It would be pretty interesting if Byram/Makar were competing for the Norris. Not sure I've ever seen that happen between players on the sameteam.

Makar won the Conn Smythe but the more consistant player and better player in the final for me was Byram.

 

[Islay1989]

NYI went to the ECF two years in a row, winning against everyone they faced except for Tampa Bay, who they pushed to 6-7 games both times.

Last season was a failure but there was some extenuating circumstances, like starting the season with s huge roadtrip, illness, and injuries to key players.

It's not unfathomable that they could make another run by replacing someone like Bailey with Kadri. Even if they just finish in the WC spots they're still a team built for the playoffs and can cause problems for anyone.

That's one rose-colored glasses was to look at it. The other is that they have no game breakers up front (no Barzal isn't a game-breaker), their defense from those runs took a massive hit in missing Toews.

 

[The Moops]

Byram will be our next Captain. Trust me.

Where's Landy going?

 

[Bender]

It's crazy how many players with 1 year left are still left unsigned. I thought for sure most of them would be done by now, including MacKinnon.

I hope the bLose are really enjoying their ROR negotiations... I'm sure that's more fun than a barrel of monkeys!!

 

[chet1926]

It's crazy how many players with 1 year left are still left unsigned. I thought for sure most of them would be done by now, including MacKinnon.

I hope the bLose are really enjoying their ROR negotiations... I'm sure that's more fun than a barrel of monkeys!!

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29 isn't signed yet because of Kadri. Stupid as that might be. Avs are waiting to make sure 100% that he isn't coming back. This way they know exactly what kind of money they can give 29.

I guarantee that 29 gets signed within a few days of Kadri making his decision.

Not how I'd run my organization. Would have gotten 29 resolved ASAP as priority 1. Then figured it out from there.

 

[EdAVSfan]

29 isn't signed yet because of Kadri. Stupid as that might be. Avs are waiting to make sure 100% that he isn't coming back. This way they know exactly what kind of money they can give 29.

I guarantee that 29 gets signed within a few days of Kadri making his decision.

Not how I'd run my organization. Would have gotten 29 resolved ASAP as priority 1. Then figured it out from there.

I dont see this at all.

Why on earth would Mack's salary be based off of what Kadri makes?

Are you saying that Mack will get less money depending on Kadri?

To me, is negotiation has absolutely nothing to do with Kadri. I cant envision a scenario where the Avs are holding back money from Mackinnon because of what they may need to pay Kadri.

 

[Iceberg]

29 isn't signed yet because of Kadri. Stupid as that might be. Avs are waiting to make sure 100% that he isn't coming back. This way they know exactly what kind of money they can give 29.

I guarantee that 29 gets signed within a few days of Kadri making his decision.

Not how I'd run my organization. Would have gotten 29 resolved ASAP as priority 1. Then figured it out from there.

LOL... they are not waiting on Kadri to sign MacK.

 

[chet1926]

LOL... they are not waiting on Kadri to sign MacK.

How could it not correlate?

It's very clear that if Kadri signs with us that multiple pieces will need to be rearranged to make it work in there future.

Maybe Sakic and C-Mac are playing chess, trying to figure out ways to bring back guys like EJ and Compher as well. And figuring out how Byram and Newhook are going to fit.

Knowing exactly who is making what is kind of important and if Kadri is added in there it makes it more complicated.

 

[EdAVSfan]

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How could it not correlate?

It's very clear that if Kadri signs with us that multiple pieces will need to be rearranged to make it work in there future.

Maybe Sakic and C-Mac are playing chess, trying to figure out ways to bring back guys like EJ and Compher as well. And figuring out how Byram and Newhook are going to fit.

Knowing exactly who is making what is kind of important and if Kadri is added in there it makes it more complicated.

Yes, the amount Kadri could make will affect ALL of those decisions.

The amount Kadri makes has absolutely no bearing on how much Mackinnon makes.

The Avs will try to get Mackinnon to the best contract they can for the team. If anything, its the complete opposite. What Kadri will and has gotten offered is completely dependant on what Mackinnon will make. Not the other way around.

 

[chet1926]

I dont see this at all.

Why on earth would Mack's salary be based off of what Kadri makes?

Are you saying that Mack will get less money depending on Kadri?

To me, is negotiation has absolutely nothing to do with Kadri. I cant envision a scenario where the Avs are holding back money from Mackinnon because of what they may need to pay Kadri.

No it's more about the other pieces (future signings) and if Kadri comes back it complicates it further.

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Yes, the amount Kadri could make will affect ALL of those decisions.

The amount Kadri makes has absolutely no bearing on how much Mackinnon makes.

The Avs will try to get Mackinnon to the best contract they can for the team. If anything, its the complete opposite. What Kadri will and has gotten offered is completely dependant on what Mackinnon will make. Not the other way around.

If it doesn't, then why isn't 29 signed?

 

[EdAVSfan]

No it's more about the other pieces (future signings) and if Kadri comes back it complicates it further.


If it doesn't, then why isn't 29 signed?

Ok, yes the other pieces, but not Mackinnon.

In your original post, you indicated that they havent signed Mackinnon yet because they need to know how much money they have if they sign Kadri. Thats illogical to me. Its 100% the other way around.

They need finality on Mack's contract value before other pieces and decisions can be made.

Personally, I have 0 reason to believe that Mack's contract has anything to do with Kadri whereas as Kadri's contract is likely extremely related to Mackinnons contract value.

Edit: I have absolutely no idea why Mack isnt signed. But the amount that he makes is 100% not related to Kadri. Theres absolutely no way CMac is going to Mack and telling him im paying you less because im giving it to Kadri. Maybe they havent agreed on value. Maybe they havent agreed on structure. Term, etc. Maybe they dont want to announce his deal because they dont want to tell kadri, hey, were giving Mackinnon double what were offering you.

 

[redacted]

MacK isn't signing with the Avs because he wants to go back to the Mooseheads. Heard it from MacK's father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.

 

[Raucherhusten]

MacK isn't signing with the Avs because he wants to go back to the Mooseheads. Heard it from MacK's father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate's dog.

You're welcome!

 

[redacted]

You're welcome!

 

[Raucherhusten]

Not an insult. Loved that movie! Now i have to love you too.

 

[MacKaRtin]

Calling it, Compher to a random team, Avs trade two 1sts for Barzal, Barzal immediately explodes offensively on the Avs, surpassing MacKinnon and forcing MacKinnon to become a two-way 2C

I don't see the Islanders giving up Barzal so they can get Kadri. Immediately creates another hole for them.

 

[letsgoavs1921]

That's one rose-colored glasses was to look at it. The other is that they have no game breakers up front (no Barzal isn't a game-breaker), their defense from those runs took a massive hit in missing Toews.

Agree. Look at the east and it is very easy to make the case they aren't top 8

 

[The Abusement Park]

MacK isn't signing with the Avs because he wants to go back to the Mooseheads. Heard it from MacK's father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.

What did their grocer have to say?

No it's more about the other pieces (future signings) and if Kadri comes back it complicates it further.


If it doesn't, then why isn't 29 signed?

Mack isn’t signed because their negotiating on his contract I’d gather. It has potential to be one of the biggest contracts in the NHL’s history, nothing about his contract seems like something that would be over and done with quickly.

 

[Bender]

@Richard88 I was fiddling around cap friendly and saw this atrocity... is this you?? (if so, you are a monster)

 

[chet1926]

What did their grocer have to say?


Mack isn’t signed because their negotiating on his contract I’d gather. It has potential to be one of the biggest contracts in the NHL’s history, nothing about his contract seems like something that would be over and done with quickly.

But Sakic and C-Mac already knew this about 29s potential contract. That variable hasn't changed. And they've been prepping for it for years so I'd say plenty of thought has gone into it.

The variable that has changed is Kadri and to a lesser extent Byram and Newhook.

Bringing Kadri back would make a huge difference on 29s contract structure. No Kadri you probably front load, Kadri comes back you might back load 29. Who knows.

As soon as Kadri goes to NYI. I would assume quickly thereafter 29 gets signed and we also sign a Pauly Walnuts type.

 

[The Abusement Park]

But Sakic and C-Mac already knew this about 29s potential contract. That variable hasn't changed. And they've been prepping for it for years so I'd say plenty of thought has gone into it.

The variable that has changed is Kadri and to a lesser extent Byram and Newhook.

Bringing Kadri back would make a huge difference on 29s contract structure. No Kadri you probably front load, Kadri comes back you might back load 29. Who knows.

As soon as Kadri goes to NYI. I would assume quickly thereafter 29 gets signed and we also sign a Pauly Walnuts type.

Kadri, rightfully, has 0 bearing on Mack’s contract. That’s ludicrous to even think that’s possible. Any scenario Kadri comes back will have Kadri’s contract being affected by Mack.

 

[Bender]

But Sakic and C-Mac already knew this about 29s potential contract. That variable hasn't changed. And they've been prepping for it for years so I'd say plenty of thought has gone into it.

The variable that has changed is Kadri and to a lesser extent Byram and Newhook.

Bringing Kadri back would make a huge difference on 29s contract structure. No Kadri you probably front load, Kadri comes back you might back load 29. Who knows.

As soon as Kadri goes to NYI. I would assume quickly thereafter 29 gets signed and we also sign a Pauly Walnuts type.

I don't think it's a bad hypothetical. My feeling was that they told Kadri that they were going to be his back-up plan and like you say - they are waiting until he's finalized elsewhere to move on with their lives.

I'm not convinced that they wouldn't have a range though, for the #2C position and presented Kadri with their best offer that is likely around the $6-$6.5M range for 3 years. Obviously, Naz is likely going to get more elsewhere but that should at least be there if no else can be finalized.

 

[UnkleKraker]

Some of this Byram talk baffles me. The only thing keeping this kid from being a 1D (on any team that doesn't have Makar) is his health. Bo is a beaut.