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Both games in which Byram was under 22 minutes we lost.
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SoundwaveIsCharisma
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I think the concussions and subsequent weight loss (something Bo talked about) effected his shot. Look at some of his opportunities early in the season and he has some legitimate zip, the look at the end of the season and playoffs and you can just see he isn’t able to get the same torque
AvsFan2123
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Some thoughts I have on Avs going into year.
- Would like this MacKinnon extension done sooner than later. Don’t want this to drag out and create a media circus or any last minute Landeskog drama.
- Goaltending will be a question mark that’ll be annoyingly harped on again, but as Kuemper shown they just need adequate performance and they’ll be fine. Avs D and structure is too good so I’m fine with this tandem.
- Speaking of their defense, is there a deeper group in the league? Barring any trades of course. I mean you’re staring at Byram-EJohnson 3rd pair. The depth of Murray, JJohnson and MacDermid is different than MacDonald, Hunt, MacDermid, but I think I like latter better.
- The problem we all know about. 2C. I think they should avoid Stastny/Rodrigues. I personally don’t thinks what you want there if you want a shot in hell at repeating. The Avs are good enough to use Compher there to start or even the Mikko rumor there till they bring in the guy they want. They could coast to a playoff spot. I think it has to be a trade at this point cause like I just said no free agents left interest me. This isn’t an issue that HAS to be addressed prior to start of year. I know the Avs aren’t flush with mant assets now but I mean this is the price you pay to go for it. Unless you’re Tampa and have better scouting. They still have some guys worth something and could always use their 1st-2nd round picks as sweeteners/added fluff to trade.
- Last one. Forward depth. Two years in a row we lost two, top 6/top 9 F’s. Donskoi and Saad last and now Burakovsky and most likely Kadri. I think they should use that $3.9 to at least sign one more bottom 6 F. Cause as of now Sedlak is in the lineup to start and we’re an injury or two away from having Megna in the lineup in which I hope is another long season/playoff run. Had the luxury of having Sturm/NAK on standby. So I say grab another bottom 6er or two, or see what waivers entails. I personally would take; Larsson, ESvechnikov, Motte, or shoot see what you can get Milano at cause we’ve seen the market start to take its toll on players (Heinen at 1v1).
- Would like this MacKinnon extension done sooner than later. Don’t want this to drag out and create a media circus or any last minute Landeskog drama.
- Goaltending will be a question mark that’ll be annoyingly harped on again, but as Kuemper shown they just need adequate performance and they’ll be fine. Avs D and structure is too good so I’m fine with this tandem.
- Speaking of their defense, is there a deeper group in the league? Barring any trades of course. I mean you’re staring at Byram-EJohnson 3rd pair. The depth of Murray, JJohnson and MacDermid is different than MacDonald, Hunt, MacDermid, but I think I like latter better.
- The problem we all know about. 2C. I think they should avoid Stastny/Rodrigues. I personally don’t thinks what you want there if you want a shot in hell at repeating. The Avs are good enough to use Compher there to start or even the Mikko rumor there till they bring in the guy they want. They could coast to a playoff spot. I think it has to be a trade at this point cause like I just said no free agents left interest me. This isn’t an issue that HAS to be addressed prior to start of year. I know the Avs aren’t flush with mant assets now but I mean this is the price you pay to go for it. Unless you’re Tampa and have better scouting. They still have some guys worth something and could always use their 1st-2nd round picks as sweeteners/added fluff to trade.
- Last one. Forward depth. Two years in a row we lost two, top 6/top 9 F’s. Donskoi and Saad last and now Burakovsky and most likely Kadri. I think they should use that $3.9 to at least sign one more bottom 6 F. Cause as of now Sedlak is in the lineup to start and we’re an injury or two away from having Megna in the lineup in which I hope is another long season/playoff run. Had the luxury of having Sturm/NAK on standby. So I say grab another bottom 6er or two, or see what waivers entails. I personally would take; Larsson, ESvechnikov, Motte, or shoot see what you can get Milano at cause we’ve seen the market start to take its toll on players (Heinen at 1v1).
BobRossColton
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Go give Sam Steel, Tyler Motte the LOC contract.
If these two would both work out, then great. Steel, Newhook, JTC, Meyers all do spot duty at 2c.
If these two would both work out, then great. Steel, Newhook, JTC, Meyers all do spot duty at 2c.
SoundwaveIsCharisma
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I’d love Motte, another guy that plays that relentless style the Avs did so well with
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dahrougem2
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Wasn't Motte looking for something like 2.5M/3M per season? There's a reason he hasn't signed yet.
Motte would be a great add for the 4th line... But we already have our 4th line.
Need to be aiming higher if we're going to add someone. Stastny, Rodrigues, Milano(Though I am not sold on him).
Need to at least get a legit Top 9 guy for the final roster spot.
Need to be aiming higher if we're going to add someone. Stastny, Rodrigues, Milano(Though I am not sold on him).
Need to at least get a legit Top 9 guy for the final roster spot.
SoftMittsHardSticks
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I honestly think the Avs are probably looking at the regular season as almost inconsequential now. Regardless of who plays at 2C until the trade deadline, they're still essentially a lock for a playoff birth.
They know that the post season is the only thing that matters. The regular season is almost a formality when you're a perennial Stanley Cup contender. The Avalanche (both on the ice and in the front office) know first-hand that it doesn't matter if they go into the playoffs with the Presidents trophy, or squeak in as a wild card.
You are there to beat the best, and win it all.
They know that the post season is the only thing that matters. The regular season is almost a formality when you're a perennial Stanley Cup contender. The Avalanche (both on the ice and in the front office) know first-hand that it doesn't matter if they go into the playoffs with the Presidents trophy, or squeak in as a wild card.
You are there to beat the best, and win it all.
Richard88
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They also went 9-1 on the road, and couldn't close out any series at home, so they probably won't care too much about securing home ice advantage either.
To be fair they only had the opportunity to close out half of their series at home and Darcy blew that game 5 against the Blues. Home ice sets the tone in a series regardless of whether or not it's closed out there.
UncleRisto
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Hmm, usually births peak a bit later in the year. I think that would be a safer bet.
Metallo
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Agreed. How stupid is it that 7.1x3 and 8.5x7 are comparable scenarios? They are black and white different.
They do but it’s not very frequent for obvious reasons, Forsberg to Washington is one of the most well known examples where the scouts weren’t sold on him but management saw his value.
Yakapov to Edmonton is the other biggest one for me in recent memory, where the scouts wanted Murray as the BPA but management took the “higher value” player instead. Oddly enough Edmonton doing what I described would have worked out amazingly for them. Instead of taking the need who your scouts like more (Murray) take the high profile player and then trade him later for a much better defender. After his draft + 1 year Yakapov could have netted quite a good defenceman.
Great post and agree on everytbing but the list of na.es for bottom 6. Only one on that list in my opinion that could come in play with the proper pace is motte
Although injuries are a concern.. i like him as a fit
GoNordiquesGo
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Barkov will have to drag the same criticism Mac has been dragging up to this year. Even though Mac had an amazing PPG in the playoffs, many here were saying he underperformed playoffs wise because of the 2nd round exits andhis lower PPG in game 7s. Barkov will face the same kind of criticism until he actually has playoff success (team success), regardless of his PPG.
GoNordiquesGo
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Lundel seems to be the heralded as the new Cirelli... i.e. the second-coming of Bergeron.
We all know how important 2-way hockey is but the Cirelli hype got a bit overblown by certain... Cirelli has been labeled a "future Selke 70-point man" for a few years now. He never hit 20 goals, never hit 45 points and never came close to winning the Selke. He signed a $6.25M AAV contract for his prime years. That's a great player to have. He won two cups with all-satr players around him. You're fortunate if you have him on your Team, but this is not even close to Bergeron level. It's actually insulting for Bergeron, given the amazing Hall of Fame career he has (multiple 30+ goal seasons, multiple 70+ point season, 5 Selke and 11 nominations). Its ridiculous...
The Lundel hype seems to be going in the same direction... but maybe contrary to Cirelli he'll live-up to the expectations and deliver offensively as well as defensively. I'm not saying he's not good, I barely saw him playing. But the level of praise after a single season seems Cirelli-like... Wasn't he healthy scratched in Game 3 against Tampa??
We all know how important 2-way hockey is but the Cirelli hype got a bit overblown by certain... Cirelli has been labeled a "future Selke 70-point man" for a few years now. He never hit 20 goals, never hit 45 points and never came close to winning the Selke. He signed a $6.25M AAV contract for his prime years. That's a great player to have. He won two cups with all-satr players around him. You're fortunate if you have him on your Team, but this is not even close to Bergeron level. It's actually insulting for Bergeron, given the amazing Hall of Fame career he has (multiple 30+ goal seasons, multiple 70+ point season, 5 Selke and 11 nominations). Its ridiculous...
The Lundel hype seems to be going in the same direction... but maybe contrary to Cirelli he'll live-up to the expectations and deliver offensively as well as defensively. I'm not saying he's not good, I barely saw him playing. But the level of praise after a single season seems Cirelli-like... Wasn't he healthy scratched in Game 3 against Tampa??
Northern Avs Fan
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Cirelli is legitimate shutdown forward. Lundell has a ways to go before he’s that. I think Lundell will be the more well rounded player though.
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Lundell certainly isn’t that shutdown forward yet, but the potential is there. I wouldn’t say Bergeron level or anything. But I could certainly see an ROR/peak Couts type player.
GoNordiquesGo
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Cirelli is more like Danault...
Absolutely. But that's not Bergeron-level. Bergeron is one of the best two-way forward to have ever played the game. Its like saying Bo has Ray Bourque level ceiling...
Cirelli is more like Danault...
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Kind off topic but I remember last year being one of the people that didn't want to pay Danault and I doubt he would have signed here with MacKinnon/Kadri but man I'd kill for him now. 5.5 mill for 5 more years and I think his game ages very well. Pairing him with Nuke/Lehky would be a ridiculous shutdown line and just built for playoff hockey. I'd trade Girard straight up for him.
Northern Avs Fan
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Bourque dwarfs Bergeron, but I get what you’re saying.
Agree about Cirelli/Danault. That’s a good comp.
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IMO they have an agreement since day 1. The absurd level of silence that is surrounding the Kadri situation can only be because of Lou.
Some journalist said the other day that Lou had a deal for JT MIller at the draft and Vancouver leaked something so Lou backed off of the deal just because of that. When he was asked if they really had a deal in place he told the journalist to "go ask Vancouver".
It also makes sense that he's going after Kadri after missing on Miller.
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