Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency (Mod Warning in OP)

[The Abusement Park]

You better be right.

If he’s brought in to believe the 2C than I would agree it’s desperate.

 

[Avaholic29]

There's no guarantee he's up to it. Two million takes away from the flexibility to so something more substantial at the TDL. It's this late and he's still not signed and the Avs still go out on a limb for 2 million on a guy who has a lot to prove.

Avs should have around 7-8 mil deadline space and can move a contract in whatever deal they want. This is a good signing and cheap.

 

[Balthazar]

Signed the best FA left available to a good contract. This tells that they want Newhook at 2C and they'll have JTC and Rodrigues to back him up if need be

Yeah all lower end players tend to run hot and cold... they don't usually run so hot for 30 games and then so cold for 50 though.

I think he's a perfectly good depth player and I have zero issues with him at $2m. I've actually liked him for a while as long as you are reasonable with who he is (I suggested signing him last summer).

JFresh is extremely high on him

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

First 42 games, 32 points. Last 40 games, 11 points.

Also, first 33 games, 30 points. Last 49 games, 13 points.

How many of those 1st 42 games was he playing in the top 6 in Pittsburgh and on the PP, before Malkin returned?

 

[Bender]

I'm kind of 'meh' on Rodrigues but it's a 1 year deal (and at WAY less than people anticipated he'd get at the start of free agency) so I have not problem with it. I would not have liked a multi-year deal, personally.

 

[redacted]

Signed the best FA left available to a good contract. This tells that they want Newhook at 2C and they'll have JTC and Rodrigues to back him up if need be


JFresh is extremely high on him

I think people give JFresh way too much credit for player evaluation, just because he thinks the world of a player doesn't always make it true. I think Rodrigues is a very solid bottom 6 guy with versatility. There is good value to those types of players.

How many of those 1st 42 games was he playing in the top 6 in Pittsburgh and on the PP, before Malkin returned?

Most of them... about 30-35 games worth. About half of those lined up next to Crosby. I do think Rodrigues can help with the 2nd PP unit, he has some skill that should prove useful there.

 

[Ararana]

So I'm guessing

Nichushkin - MacKinnon - Rantanen
Landeskog - Rodrigues - Lehkonen
Newhook - Compher - Meyers
Cogliano - Helm - O'Connor

They definitely took a blow at 2C. I really don't believe Rodrigues is a legit top six center, but he's a significant upgrade over Compher or a 22 year old Newhook in that spot. Worst part of this for me is they aren't banking that cap space anymore. If they want a true 2C at the deadline, money has to go out now. Which only increases the price.

But still, I really like the depth here. Newhook - Compher - Meyers could surprise some teams and keeping that fourth line together will be nice.

 

[Balthazar]

Avs will now try to win the cup with poor goaltending AND very poor center depth.

Redefining playoff winners!

 

[The Abusement Park]

So I'm guessing

Nichushkin - MacKinnon - Rantanen
Landeskog - Rodrigues - Lehkonen
Newhook - Compher - Meyers
Cogliano - Helm - O'Connor

They definitely took a blow at 2C. I really don't believe Rodrigues is a legit top six center, but he's a significant upgrade over Compher or a 22 year old Newhook in that spot. Worst part of this for me is they aren't banking that cap space anymore. If they want a true 2C at the deadline, money has to go out now.

But still, I really like the depth here. Newhook - Compher - Meyers could surprise some teams and keeping that fourth line together will be nice.

ERod at 2C is…. Woof.

 

[redacted]

But what does he do when he's not scoring?

Pretty meh actually... his biggest strengths are handling the puck and firing the puck. He's not going to hurt you defensively, but he's not a huge positive there either.

 

[Balthazar]

Pretty meh actually... his biggest strengths are handling the puck and firing the puck. He's not going to hurt you defensively, but he's not a huge positive there either.

If he does play C he's likely gonna play with Lehkonen and Landy (?). Defense won't be an issue.

 

[BoneCherry]

Yeah all lower end players tend to run hot and cold... they don't usually run so hot for 30 games and then so cold for 50 though.

I think he's a perfectly good depth player and I have zero issues with him at $2m. I've actually liked him for a while as long as you are reasonable with who he is (I suggested signing him last summer).

That's about my take on it. When he was playing in the top 6 for Pittsburgh he did well, but statistically insignificant for the amount of time he played.

He's good depth, but probably not the answer for 2C. He's a good Compher replacement. He's a typical Av signing. He has potential, but we will have to see.

 

[redacted]

If he does play C he's likely gonna play with Lehkonen and Landy (?). Defense won't be an issue.

Not at all worried about his defense overall. Some faults there if he plays center above 3C (maybe even 4C), but his defense isn't a strong positive to his game.

That's about my take on it. When he was playing in the top 6 for Pittsburgh he did well, but statistically insignificant for the amount of time he played.

He's good depth, but probably not the answer for 2C. He's a good Compher replacement. He's a typical Av signing. He has potential, but we will have to see.

I think a motivated Compher is a much better player (a motivated Compher for a whole season is a 2C), but he only seems to play that way in short spurts.

 

[forsbergavs32]

The Avs have also shown to take meh players and make them look good (ie. Donskoi) so we’ll see how it goes.

 

[Sea Eagles]

I'm shocked at some peoples comments about Rodrigues. He comes from winning stock !

Bura came to us after scoring 2 consecutive 25 point seasons, then went 45 (in 58), 44 (in 53), 61 (in 80).
Nuke came to us after scoring 1 (in 8), 29 (in 79), 10 (in 57).

And with each signing, people weren't happy.

Rodrigues is already ahead of the schedule before coming in here. He'll dominate with us. It would almost be hard NOT to be successful here. Let's get behind him, and back the guy.

 

[Bender]

I'm shocked at some peoples comments about Rodrigues. He comes from winning stock !

Bura came to us after scoring 2 consecutive 25 point seasons, then went 45 (in 58), 44 (in 53), 61 (in 80).
Nuke came to us after scoring 1 (in 8), 29 (in 79), 10 (in 57).

And with each signing, people weren't happy.

Rodrigues is already ahead of the schedule before coming in here. He'll dominate with us. It would almost be hard NOT to be successful here. Let's get behind him, and back the guy.

I think people were maybe expecting a bigger move but this was a no doubt a very good move for the term and the AAV.

People were suggesting early in the off-season that the Avs would maybe move Compher but also suggested that we'd have no one to take his place if we did... well now we kind of do.

Rodrigues is a legit Top-9 forward and you need those kinds of players and that kind of depth to go deep in the playoffs. Maybe this will allow a bigger move later on in the season ?

I'm not convinced he'll be tried at #2C but between Rantanen, Newhook, Compher and Rodrigues we should be able to manage until the TDL.

Kind of hard to see a downside with this contract. At the beginning of free agency, I didn't want Rodrigues on the Avs because I didn't want to sign him to another Compher-like contract (4 years - $3.5M per) which was the rumored ask based on his numbers. One year deal at $2M - for sure, all day long.

 

[Richard88]

There's no guarantee he's up to it. Two million takes away from the flexibility to so something more substantial at the TDL. It's this late and he's still not signed and the Avs still go out on a limb for 2 million on a guy who has a lot to prove.

Are you aware that the Avs still have plenty of capspace remaining? They should still be able to bring in a good player at the TDL.

 

[Linds]

So uh Subban 1m for 1 year now?

 

[Pokecheque]

Signed the best FA left available to a good contract. This tells that they want Newhook at 2C and they'll have JTC and Rodrigues to back him up if need be


JFresh is extremely high on him

I guess I'm missing the part where he's "extremely high" on the guy. His overall WAR is 61%, which is good but by no means great, says he's a capable middle six guy who hit one hell of a burner last year. If he repeats any of that, then he's a steal, but there's nothing in that analysis that I can see where the guy is over the moon over E-Rod.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Are you aware that the Avs still have plenty of capspace remaining? They should still be able to bring in a good player at the TDL.

Sorry but I don't want to see terms like "retention" and "double retention" thrown around at the TDL because of this.

 

[Richard88]

So uh Subban 1m for 1 year now?

Nah, Avs are done.

$2.5m in capspace with a 21 man roster.

$2m is probably allocated to cover bonuses, and $500k for accrual for a TDL add. They can reassess how many bonuses will get hit at the TDL to see how much they can add.

A 21 man roster keeps flexibility in terms of roster size through the regular season, and also keeps two roster spots open for TDL additions (my guess would be a 2C and a depth Dman will be the TDL targets).

 

[Avaholic29]

Hilarious how many people don’t like this signing. Still banking 1.5-1.9m for a projected 8m deadline space, include compher in a deal and it’s business as usual. 1 year 2 mil is a no brainer and a massive upgrade over having kaut or foudy take that last roster spot.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Why does everyone want Subban? His skating would be a major problem in Bednars system.

 

[John Mandalorian]

I'm shocked at some peoples comments about Rodrigues. He comes from winning stock !

Bura came to us after scoring 2 consecutive 25 point seasons, then went 45 (in 58), 44 (in 53), 61 (in 80).
Nuke came to us after scoring 1 (in 8), 29 (in 79), 10 (in 57).

And with each signing, people weren't happy.

Rodrigues is already ahead of the schedule before coming in here. He'll dominate with us. It would almost be hard NOT to be successful here. Let's get behind him, and back the guy.

His maternal grandfather was Secretariat?

 

[Avaholic29]

I guess I'm missing the part where he's "extremely high" on the guy. His overall WAR is 61%, which is good but by no means great, says he's a capable middle six guy who hit one hell of a burner last year. If he repeats any of that, then he's a steal, but there's nothing in that analysis that I can see where the guy is over the moon over E-Rod.