Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency (Mod Warning in OP)

[The Abusement Park]

Yea keeping unused cap space for bonuses is what makes sense (and sucks at the same time).

BUT there's danger about trying to acquire a 2C at the deadline. If there's a top 6C available (and that's a huge IF) then we'll have to outbid the rest of the playoff teams and pay through the f***ing nose to get him. Like last year's Kuemper situation but worse.

I mean if we trade for a 2C now or at the TDL it’s gonna be very expensive.

 

[Balthazar]

Leafs fans and media seem to believe that the ZAR PTO means it's the end for Kerfoot in Toronto.

Yea, but don't even think about it Macfarland

 

[BobRossColton]

I'd rather have a 2C now than the TDL because that's only about 15-20(maybe less) games to get chemistry with someone.

 

[Balthazar]

I'd rather have a 2C now than the TDL because that's only about 15-20(maybe less) games to get chemistry with someone.

Avs had significant success with their deadline acquisitions last season. They are probably incline to repeat.

My problem is the offer for top 6 C's at the deadline usually just isn't there.

 

[Richard88]

Yea keeping unused cap space for bonuses is what makes sense (and sucks at the same time).

BUT there's danger about trying to acquire a 2C at the deadline. If there's a top 6C available (and that's a huge IF) then we'll have to outbid the rest of the playoff teams and pay through the f***ing nose to get him. Like last year's Kuemper situation but worse.

They probably have a pretty good sense already on whether or not Patrick Kane would want to join the Avs, and barring any 2C's being available Kane could very likely be their plan for the TDL, with internal options taking the 2C job.

 

[Richard88]

Leafs fans and media seem to believe that the ZAR PTO means it's the end for Kerfoot in Toronto.

Yea, but don't even think about it Macfarland

Someone on capfriendly suggested Kerfoot to Colorado earlier today so I played around with that idea just from a cap perspective.

The only way the Avs could realistically take him on is if he's 50% retained ($1.75m AAV), as that would leave them with about $2m to cover bonuses (22 man roster) which I think is the minimum that they'll want to keep free for bonuses.

Kerfoot at 50% would cost a decent asset though (whether the retention is done by TML or a 3rd team), and I doubt CMac has any appetite for that instead of just keeping his tradeable assets to use later in the season.

So yeah, highly doubt Kerfoot is coming back.

 

[hughdreamz]

With a Cup in the bag, I can see why the Avs are not rushing to trade a 1st rounder in a deep draft for a 2C when you have Newhook in the line up to give a shot. You can afford risks.

That said, I wouldn’t wait until the TDL to make the move if Newhook proves not to be ready. Give him to January and then decide.

 

[Richard88]

Thought Harrington might have been a Dman the Avs may have had interest in on a PTO with a view of being the 7D since he skates reasonably well and is decent defensively (though there's little offense to his game). Plus there's the CBJ connection.

 

[Avsboy]

Lots of teams need to clear cap space. Maybe get a forward from them. I actually wouldn’t mind Kerfoot since he’s solidly on the 3rd line and then you elevate Newhook. Third line of Compher Meyers Kerfoot and fourth of LOC Helm Cogs is not bad

 

[UncleRisto]

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[EdAVSfan]

Yea keeping unused cap space for bonuses is what makes sense (and sucks at the same time).

BUT there's danger about trying to acquire a 2C at the deadline. If there's a top 6C available (and that's a huge IF) then we'll have to outbid the rest of the playoff teams and pay through the f***ing nose to get him. Like last year's Kuemper situation but worse.

But you’re also making the assumption that the 2C is available right now.

What 2Cs have moved?
What centers have been moved?

The Avs could be waiting because they have to wait, or they could be waiting because it’s prudent.

There’s nothing suggesting anything at this point about what the Avs are moving towards.

The only thing we do know is that no 2C solution has been moved around the league at all so far this offseason. There’s no player that’s been moved that the Avs should’ve been on.

 

[Richard88]

Lots of teams need to clear cap space. Maybe get a forward from them. I actually wouldn’t mind Kerfoot since he’s solidly on the 3rd line and then you elevate Newhook. Third line of Compher Meyers Kerfoot and fourth of LOC Helm Cogs is not bad

The issue is his $3.5m caphit. To make it workable with bonuses in mind you'd need to get that down to $1.75m (50%) but that would mean paying a decent asset to get either TML or a 3rd team to retain $1.75m.

At that point just save the asset for the TDL and accrue cap instead, or sign someone in UFA like Rodrigues, Milano, or Motte without giving up an asset. I'm sure the Avs are also keeping an eye on waivers where they may be able to pick someone up with a cheap AAV who they like for free (eg. Bemstrom, Foudy, or Anderson-Dolan, Zetterlund).

 

[Richard88]

An alternative to Kerfoot that would likely be easier to make work cap and asset wise would be Andreas Johnsson.

Johnsson only has a $750k base salary this year since he's already received his signing bonus, so retaining 50% would only cost them $375k in additional cash.

NJ are probably also very open to moving him cheaply to make room for some younger guys (eg. Holtz, Zetterlund, Thompson), and they aren't as pressed for capspace as Toronto so they could retain 50% without much issue. He also has a 10 team NTC which would potentially make it cheaper to acquire him.

At 50% he'd come at a $1.7m caphit, so the Avs would have ~$2.1m unused to accrue and cover bonuses (22 man roster).

Johnsson is a bit one dimensional, but he can skate well and is a decent playmaker who's usually paced around 0.5ppg and put up 43 points in Toronto. He'd offer the Avs a decent scoring threat on the 3rd line next to Meyers and Compher, or moonlight on the 2nd line at times depending on how you want to put lines together.

Here's an AGM I made with this idea a couple of days ago:

Johnsson - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Create your own team. Trade, sign, recall, reassign, and buyout players as though you were your favourite teams general manager.

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[Richard88]

PTO candidate or nah?

 

[CharlesPuck]

PTO candidate or nah?

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Only if he has the long hair.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

I don't know if Rask has anything left in the tank. But for free on a PTO? Sure, why not. He only played 18 games last season. The season before in MIN he had a 58.62GF%. There's a chance he clicks and gets an offer. There's probably a greater chance we thank him for trying out and wish him the best in his future endeavors but no blood loss, eh?

 

[UncleRisto]

Only if he has the long hair.

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[myperbixhurts]

PTO candidate or nah?

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The top one yes, the bottom one no

 

[Avaholic29]

I think we should just go into the season with what we have. Our projected deadline space is beautiful. Try to get some of the younger guys stock up if possible and target horvat and some depth at the deadline.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

I think we should just go into the season with what we have. Our projected deadline space is beautiful. Try to get some of the younger guys stock up if possible and target horvat and some depth at the deadline.

Having no idea what Joe knows I'm starting to be inclined with this. I've been beating the Horvat drum all summer, but I'm not sure he's going to be available. Vancouver would be smart to move Miller to wing full time and just beef their top 6. I was hoping for a solid 3rd line RW addition to push LOC down to the 4th line to keep the AHLrs in the AHL. But we are going to need cheap depth in the next year so it's probably a good idea to see what exactly we have in Sedlak, Kaut, Blidh, Hudon etc, so unless there's a PTO for competition I expect things to be quiet until at least the proverbial 20 game mark but probably closer to the deadline.

Sometimes I wish Joe had a little more cap space and was a troll. Would love to see him offer sheet Robertson for 7x7 just to f*** with Jim Nill. If he matches, Joe should then call and offer JTC for Pavelski to allow the Stars to get cap compliant.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

The Avs don't have to wait for the TDL to make a deal for a 2C if there is one available. They could start the season with what we have, see if somebody runs with the job and in the meantime we accrue cap space. If nobody runs with it then the Avs could trade for somebody in Jan-early Feb to avoid competing with other teams. More teams have done that recently because there are less buyers as many teams are not sure at that time if they are buyers or sellers.

 

[willy702]

What does success with a 2C look like this year? Kadri played out of his mind last year, not going to get that level of production again and the org knows this. They will make a move for one at TDL only if the price is right. Can't see them chasing a mythical creature when the team has plenty of talent as it is.

 

[redacted]

I think we should just go into the season with what we have. Our projected deadline space is beautiful. Try to get some of the younger guys stock up if possible and target horvat and some depth at the deadline.

One things to watch, if that space is used… next year gets even tighter with bonus overages.

 

[ANewHope]

One things to watch, if that space is used… next year gets even tighter with bonus overages.

I mean regardless it’s going to be tight. There’s no scenario where we eventually don’t lose a core piece or two. Sakic will just need to do well on the returns. Our defence is impossible to keep no matter what.

I still maintain we will do better than expected when that day comes. Just like I think the team does really well to start this season despite our losses.

 

[ANewHope]

What does success with a 2C look like this year? Kadri played out of his mind last year, not going to get that level of production again and the org knows this. They will make a move for one at TDL only if the price is right. Can't see them chasing a mythical creature when the team has plenty of talent as it is.

Duplicating his regular season production will be impossible basically. While we don’t win the cup without him and we’ll 100% need a competent 2C I think Kadri showing up in huge moments kinda overshadows the fact that he didn’t exactly light the playoffs up.

Getting Kadri like production in the playoffs is doable.