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Still think we'll sign Rodrigues or Motte to a 1 year deal.

I don't think we're heading into the season with Mack - Compher/Newhook - Newhook/Meyers - Helm as our center depth when Newhook hasn't looked great at C and Meyers has played a total of 5 professional games.

I know people like slotting Rants in there and it's good in theory, but it's quite obvious it's a stopgap rather than a long-term option for whatever reason.
 
PAZ said:
Still think we'll sign Rodrigues or Motte to a 1 year deal.

I don't think we're heading into the season with Mack - Compher/Newhook - Newhook/Meyers - Helm as our center depth when Newhook hasn't looked great at C and Meyers has played a total of 5 professional games.

I know people like slotting Rants in there and it's good in theory, but it's quite obvious it's a stopgap rather than a long-term option for whatever reason.
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How about Wennberg (with some retention) to shore up the center depth?

Seattle have a pretty crowded top 9 and might welcome the idea of opening up a center spot for Wright.

Landeskog - MacKinnon - Nichushkin
Lehkonen ----- Newhook -- Rantanen
Meyers -------- Wennberg -- Compher
Cogliano -------- Helm -------- O'Connor

If Newhook struggles you'd have a fallback option in Wennberg who's played 2C a lot before and can at the very least hold his own defensively while putting up ~40 points. You could also form a pure shutdown line of Lehkonen-Wennberg-Nichushkin which would be a pain for anyone to play against.

The main issue would probably be the price to acquire him with retention for two years. He does have a 10 team NTC though which could help limit the price/number of bidders.
 
Richard88 said:
How about Wennberg (with some retention) to shore up the center depth?

Seattle have a pretty crowded top 9 and might welcome the idea of opening up a center spot for Wright.

Landeskog - MacKinnon - Nichushkin
Lehkonen ----- Newhook -- Rantanen
Meyers -------- Wennberg -- Compher
Cogliano -------- Helm -------- O'Connor

If Newhook struggles you'd have a fallback option in Wennberg who's played 2C a lot before and can at the very least hold his own defensively while putting up ~40 points. You could also form a pure shutdown line of Lehkonen-Wennberg-Nichushkin which would be a pain for anyone to play against.

The main issue would probably be the price to acquire him with retention for two years. He does have a 10 team NTC though which could help limit the price/number of bidders.
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We don't need a 3C tho. Better to build up cap for the TDL and do nothing rather than give up assets for Wenny
 
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Avsboy said:
You can look up artisan Detroit style pizza
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Thanks. I did and I must say that it doesn't do it for me. Maybe because I don't like pizza with lots of sauce so seeing the sauce on top just doesn't make it that appetizing to me. To each his own I guess.
 
I know it’s fun to rosterbate trades for a 2C, but honestly I think Mikko is going to be playing 2C given that he was asked to do it several times last year.

Landy-MacK-Nuke
Lehk-Rants-Newhook
Meyers-JTC-???
Cogs-Helm-LOC

Leave the third line spot open for competition between rookies and PTO players. JTC and Meyers likely being interchangeable for the center spot. I wouldn’t be surprised if LOC got the look as the third line winger and one of the vet signings or PTO players landed as a fourth liner for us.
 
DeHaan should fit in well on Carolina's blueline, assuming they sign him of course.

Slavin - Burns
Skjei - Pesce
DeHaan - Bear

(Gardiner LTIR)

That's a very complete group.
 
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Balthazar said:
Avs not doing shit

"We'll see what we have and trade for someone at the deadline", probably.
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The 3rd line looking pretty mediocre if Newhook/JTC get bumped up. And the notion that either of them can fill the 2C spot is pretty hilarious.
 
Balthazar said:
Avs not doing shit

"We'll see what we have and trade for someone at the deadline", probably.
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That's honestly not a terrible approach given the apparent lack of trade avenues.

Given that performance bonus coverage/overages are calculated using average unused capspace across a full season, rather than being able to cover it with cap accrual, it's probably prudent to bank as much capspace as possible in the first half of the season to really ensure that even if injuries hit in the second half the roster can absorb those without causing overages or precluding the Avs from making significant deadline deals (as happened in 2021).

The Avs have up to $3.55m in performance bonuses, of which ~$2m is probably realistic to expect to be met by Byram, Newhook, and Meyers (and maybe even more if Kaut makes the roster). Averaging ~$3.8m in unused capspace for the first half of the season would essentially box off the bonuses by January and allow the Avs to add big at the TDL.

In the meantime you find out what you have in Newhook as a top 6 C/F, along with perhaps a couple of rookies. The Avs are gonna need ELC's from 2023 onwards in a big way, so priming the likes of Kaut, Foudy, Ranta, etc for a 3rd line role could prove to be very wise a year down the line.
 
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nammerus said:
The 3rd line looking pretty mediocre if Newhook/JTC get bumped up. And the notion that either of them can fill the 2C spot is pretty hilarious.
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Avs had same winning percentage in playoffs with JTC as 2C as they did with Kadri. For what it's worth (almost nothing as the sample size is much too small).

So much of our offense comes from our D's transition game and collective pressing, I think we'll be surprised how good we will look in the regular season after the Stanley Cup hangover is gone.
 
Anyone has a good grasp of our bonus situation, in terms of how much it will likley be and would be carried over to next year if we were at the cap ? I belive it is a not-insignifiant amount. And I think that every day we go with the $3.9M cap room is a day where a proportionate amount of that bonus gets eaten-up this year and not get pushed over. If that's the case, it is probably one of the factors in the "when do we move for a 2C" equation. Obviously not the main one, but once you're down to option B or C (no Kadri return), then might as well wait rather than sign a Rodrigues type player now...

Wow, looks like you read my mind Richard88!!

Thank you,
 
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That's honestly not a terrible approach given the apparent lack of trade avenues.

Given that performance bonus coverage/overages are calculated using average unused capspace across a full season, rather than being able to cover it with cap accrual, it's probably prudent to bank as much capspace as possible in the first half of the season to really ensure that even if injuries hit in the second half the roster can absorb those without causing overages or precluding the Avs from making significant deadline deals (as happened in 2021).

The Avs have up to $3.55m in performance bonuses, of which ~$2m is probably realistic to expect to be met by Byram, Newhook, and Meyers (and maybe even more if Kaut makes the roster). Averaging ~$3.8m in unused capspace for the first half of the season would essentially box off the bonuses by January and allow the Avs to add big at the TDL.

In the meantime you find out what you have in Newhook as a top 6 C/F, along with perhaps a couple of rookies. The Avs are gonna need ELC's from 2023 onwards in a big way, so priming the likes of Kaut, Foudy, Ranta, etc for a 3rd line role could prove to be very wise a year down the line.
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Yea keeping unused cap space for bonuses is what makes sense (and sucks at the same time).

BUT there's danger about trying to acquire a 2C at the deadline. If there's a top 6C available (and that's a huge IF) then we'll have to outbid the rest of the playoff teams and pay through the f***ing nose to get him. Like last year's Kuemper situation but worse.
 
There's always an urge for new toys now as opposed to waiting for a better toy.
But the Avs have no pressure right now to make moves. I suspect they'll bring in a PTO, and maybe as the season goes on they'll see that they need to make a move earlier than the deadline. Otherwise, they can wait and so can I.
 
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