The changes they are likely to have to make are going to be ones where bigger contracts are moving. They'll need another good defensemen, and frankly, Boeser is the guy to move there. Which will likely just shift money around. So I don't see any real issue with their cap situation. Some moves will have to be made, but they aren't going to lose any core player due to cap space... they'll be losing them to re-balance the team. I don't think they are the best built team or even that close, but the cap isn't their main issue as long as they can keep themselves from signing another Myers.
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expatriatedtexan
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If we lose G, our D is one Makar or Bo injury away from loosing it's dynamic ability. We need all three of those guys.
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I'd say he's more solid than dynamic. I also don't think he has the speed necessary to break out of our own zone, the way the other 3 do. He definitely better defensively than Bo and G right now, but he's about to be out of our price range anyway.
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This is very unlike you, Pierce.
It’s hard to operate this way.
I’d say that if they’re without Makar, or MacKinnon in the playoffs they’re done anyways. Just kind of is what it is.
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And we're currently one JTC injury away from Meyers or Helm being our 2C.
Huh? Toews has plenty of speed and transition/breakout ability. I think once he's in the O-Zone he's a bit less dynamic but in terms of transitioning the puck out of the D-zone he's one of the best in the league.
I've always been open to moving him?
The difference between myself and most people in here is that I simply don't care what Dman gets moved. While some people take offense to the very thought of moving Byram or Toews.
I dont care what Dman we move, so long as it solves the Center problem. We have defensive depth to lose at this point but we literally don't have a 2C at all. The most important position in hockey is our weakest and to me that's a big problem going into this season.
So yep, I'd happily move Girard if it solves Center ice. Bennett is probably on the low end of what I'd consider a 2C solution... But I like his contract situation and as I said he does bring an element(Sandpaper) that we lost when Naz left.
expatriatedtexan
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The thing that bothers me about moving G, is that if we can't re-sign Toews next summer we'd be kinda screwed. Last season of Toews, he's an unsigned pending UFA...do you trade him or let him walk for free. Also, with G gone, at that point we are down to 3 top-4 D men and one of them is Manson.
I'm almost wondering if Toews might not be the better option to move in order to get a higher quality 2C or a younger C with more term. Also pretty sure I'm about to get arrows to the knee for posting that even crossed my mind.
I'm almost wondering if Toews might not be the better option to move in order to get a higher quality 2C or a younger C with more term. Also pretty sure I'm about to get arrows to the knee for posting that even crossed my mind.
For the first bolded... Realistically either way you spin it we're probably only going to be able to afford 3 of our top 4 Dmen, going forward anyway.
Makar obviously isn't going anywhere so then you're likely looking at 2 of Toews/Makar/Byram/Manson, with the other two lost for Cap/Roster rebalancing purposes. IMO ideally in the next ~2 years you trade Manson. While he maybe still has value before that contract becomes a bad anchor.
What would really help ease the transition here for our Defense would be if Sean Behrens actually pans out as a Top 4D. I'm quite low on him and dont think he'll even play in the NHL, but others here are very high on him. I'd love to be wrong on his upside and for him to replace G/Toews/Byram(Whichever one we move) on the Left side in the next 2-3 years
As for the 2nd bolded, I dont know that we get either one of those things with Toews. Its safe to say we aren't going to move him right now... The earliest a deal happens is likely trade deadline at this point and IMO he's far more likely to be a summer of 2023 move because he's clearly the #2D on this team and keeping him gives us a far better shot at winning another cup this year. So you're talking about 1.5 years before he's a UFA or more likely 1 year. I just dont see a lot of teams lining up with a high end 2C, or a top end, A tier Center prospect, for Toews with just 1/1.5 years left.
That said, if somebody wanted to pay that kind of price, I'd definitely move him before Girard honestly.
Off the top of my head, Toews would be one hell of a fit in Florida(Lundell+), LA(Byfield), Ottawa, Vancouver(Pettersson)... But as I said, outside of maybe Florida, I dont see any of those teams giving us that quality Center/Young A tier Center prospect for Toews so close to UFA.
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Curious to see what the waiver wire will offer up in a few weeks.
I suggested Liam Foudy a couple of days ago, but I also wonder if guys like Emil Bemström or Jaret Anderson-Dolan could be available, perhaps in a prospect swap to avoid waivers.
Bemström is a RHS forward who can skate and shoot well, and also plays decent defensively. He hasn't broken out offensively yet but could be a decent bet to do so on a better offensive team. Texier heading to Europe might open up the a spot for him but Columbus still have quite a lot of forwards so they might decide to let him go. He's signed at a cheap $900k caphit for two years.
Anderson-Dolan is a really fast skater who plays center, and always plays with high energy and tenacity on the forecheck which would make him a good stylistic fit in the Avs bottom 6. LA have a lot of forwards and may be forced to make a decision on JAD (along with Vilardi) before opening night.
I suggested Liam Foudy a couple of days ago, but I also wonder if guys like Emil Bemström or Jaret Anderson-Dolan could be available, perhaps in a prospect swap to avoid waivers.
Bemström is a RHS forward who can skate and shoot well, and also plays decent defensively. He hasn't broken out offensively yet but could be a decent bet to do so on a better offensive team. Texier heading to Europe might open up the a spot for him but Columbus still have quite a lot of forwards so they might decide to let him go. He's signed at a cheap $900k caphit for two years.
Anderson-Dolan is a really fast skater who plays center, and always plays with high energy and tenacity on the forecheck which would make him a good stylistic fit in the Avs bottom 6. LA have a lot of forwards and may be forced to make a decision on JAD (along with Vilardi) before opening night.
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The problem with Toews is not his value. The problem is that it's very little cap going out so we can't receive much cap in return. That means a player retained or a very young C. Unless we dump another contract with him such has Compher. It kinda makes the deal hard to close. Maybe the short runway on his contract is also a problem.
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Girard is 5'10". He's lucky he wasn't left to die of exposure at birth!
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Many of us were wondering the same thing months ago.
Bill Peckerskull
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Metallo
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If he plays like he did last season, it is $2m too much.
Risk/reward contract for Montreal. They are betting on him breaking out, which he has a solid chance of doing.
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I agree, probably the need won't be there at TDL, but if he ends up regulated to primarily 5x5, it will be important to move him for a piece that contributes in some way to all facets of the game by next season, or for future assets, long-term, we can't pay 5m for a player that doesn't contribute outside of 5x5.
That said, my comment was really based on a comment that suggested that G will not play any special teams, and this remains to be seen, G may not be a huge point scorer, but he is a very good puck mover, and his ability to get the puck out of our zone is hard to replace.
Bill Peckerskull
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Holy shit.
The end of last year Stutzle was dominant but didn’t see that coming that’s for sure.
The end of last year Stutzle was dominant but didn’t see that coming that’s for sure.
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Bit of an overpayment today but Jimmy could make that look like a complete steal as early as year 1 honestly.
Sens have a very bright future.
Sens have a very bright future.
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