Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency (Mod Warning in OP)

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I think he's gonna ask for 9M+ on the open market as a 1C.

Beside, we don't have enough space for our own core, let alone adding someone like JT Miller :laugh:

Jesus...
If they trade Girard for Miller the cap will work, and hell no to giving Miller 9m
 
If they trade Girard for Miller the cap will work, and hell no to giving Miller 9m

Miller has been 1.07 ppg over the last 3 years. Zibanejad got $8.5x8 ($68 mil) and has been 1.06 ppg over the last 3 years. Then there is Hertl who signed $8.1x8 ($65.1 mil) who has .79 ppg over the last 3 years. All of these guys are 1993 birthdays too. Miller's new contract would start a year after though. A $9x7 is a $63 mil contract so without the 8th year he should be asking for $9 mil on the open market. With a trade you get that 8th year which can lower the aav a bit. You would expect an aav range of those other two, closer to Zibanejad more likely.
 
Even with a "hole" on the 2nd line center we should be able to to play on top of our division and make the playoffs.

So give Rantanen, Compher, Meyes and Newhook the Look and see what we have there. We should know at least by November if one of them is capable to get the job done.

If not, trade. And don´t wait until the TDL and enter a bidding war.
 
If they trade Girard for Miller the cap will work, and hell no to giving Miller 9m
He's better and younger than Kadri who literally just got 7 X 7. If you think Kadri had a great season with 87 pts, well, Miller just got 99 pts.

He will get 9M X 7 on the open market or close to it.
 
He's better and younger than Kadri who literally just got 7 X 7. If you think Kadri had a great season with 87 pts, well, Miller just got 99 pts.

He will get 9M X 7 on the open market or close to it.


He may be younger (by 3 years), but he is not the better all-around player and he feasted almost exclusively on the power play. I'm a fan of his and would prefer him to Scheifele, but he would be high-cost and high-risk.
 
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Does anyone think that Patrick Kane staying put in Chicago (for the time being) is really about giving Buffalo a chance to get their act together so he can return there and finish out his career?
 
So, if revenues are up to pre-pandemic levels, does that mean the NHLPA's debt (back-escrow/whatever the heck it's called) is being paid down at a more rapid rate as well?
Look at it this way... pre-pandemic the revenue was ~5.1b and that is the baseline. 19-20 was down to 4.4b (leaving a .7b shortfall). 20-21 was ~2.33b (leaving a ~2.7b shortfall). So in total for the 2 seasons, we have a 3.4b shortfall. Now half of that is the player's share. So 1.7b to pay off. Last season is being tabulated still, but in the range of 5.3-5.4b. Meaning .2-.3b in excess where players have half of that to pay off. So between 100-150m paid off of the 1.7b... leaving >1.5b in 'debt.'
 
He's better and younger than Kadri who literally just got 7 X 7. If you think Kadri had a great season with 87 pts, well, Miller just got 99 pts.

He will get 9M X 7 on the open market or close to it.
Miller has been 1.07 ppg over the last 3 years. Zibanejad got $8.5x8 ($68 mil) and has been 1.06 ppg over the last 3 years. Then there is Hertl who signed $8.1x8 ($65.1 mil) who has .79 ppg over the last 3 years. All of these guys are 1993 birthdays too. Miller's new contract would start a year after though. A $9x7 is a $63 mil contract so without the 8th year he should be asking for $9 mil on the open market. With a trade you get that 8th year which can lower the aav a bit. You would expect an aav range of those other two, closer to Zibanejad more likely.
Well maybe if you throw in that extra year 8X8 might do it. The cap would work. Right now Avs have about 4 mill in cap space. If trading Girard for Miller, that's 5 mill out 5.2 in for this season. Next year you give EJ's 6 mill to MacK, then resign Miller to that 8X8 and you pretty much have everyone signed. Then in 2 years you use JTC's money to resign Byram. Also Bill Daly said he thinks cap will make that big jump in 2 years. It all works out
 
I don't want the Hawks (very expensive) trash. We don't need to get into details and can have differing opinions but that's how I feel about those two individuals. Anyways, Kane to the Oilers never really made sense to me mainly because I'd be shocked if he waived to go there but that seems to have enough legs for it to not go away. Enough for Friedman and Marek to give it credibility as well.

I'm still hoping for Rodrigues but I'm also okay going in as is. The Avs will run away with the division and possibly conference if they pulled Arnason out of whatever strip club he's in and put him on the 2nd line. They'll have to make a move for a proper center at the TDL though.
 
I can't believe people are actually bringing up Jonathan Toews. Looking at their comparisons, he and JT Compher had eerily similar seasons. He's a better faceoff guy. But do you really want to pay 5M a season (and this is with 50% retention) for a guy that is JT Compher that's better at faceoffs and is considerably slower? I would rather have Evan Rodriguez for 2.5M, please.
 
I can't believe people are actually bringing up Jonathan Toews. Looking at their comparisons, he and JT Compher had eerily similar seasons. He's a better faceoff guy. But do you really want to pay 5M a season (and this is with 50% retention) for a guy that is JT Compher that's better at faceoffs and is considerably slower? I would rather have Evan Rodriguez for 2.5M, please.
I will say, Toews analytics last year were actually not horrible and noticeably better than Comphers. I think at double retention he’d be a fine 3C for a year. But that’s about it.

But I don’t think it’d be worth paying all that for him when there’s other options that would be cheaper to acquire.
 
Jonathan Toews with double retention would be sweet but would cost a lot, but if not this year, bring him in next year for the 4th line cheap veteran role.
 
Get Toews and Kane. (50% retained)

Landeskog MacKinnon Rantanen
Nuke Toews Kane
Newhook Meyers Lehkonen
Cogliano Helm LOC

Toews Makar
Byram Manson
MacDonald Johnson

George
 
I will say, Toews analytics last year were actually not horrible and noticeably better than Comphers. I think at double retention he’d be a fine 3C for a year. But that’s about it.

But I don’t think it’d be worth paying all that for him when there’s other options that would be cheaper to acquire.
Even if he's a better 3C, the Avs have an abundance of 3Cs already.
 
I can't believe people are actually bringing up Jonathan Toews. Looking at their comparisons, he and JT Compher had eerily similar seasons. He's a better faceoff guy. But do you really want to pay 5M a season (and this is with 50% retention) for a guy that is JT Compher that's better at faceoffs and is considerably slower? I would rather have Evan Rodriguez for 2.5M, please.
Not like one played for the top team in the NHL and the other played for a GM that was openly tanking and trying to get rid of every single player on that team.

Toews had very good stats up until last year when the whole team collapsed. I was actually surprised by how good his stats were before that disaster year.

He'd be a fantastic 2C on that team. Him with Nuke and Lehks would be a heck of a 2nd line, especially in the playoffs.
 
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Not like one played for the top team in the NHL and the other played for a GM that was openly tanking and trying to get rid of every single player on that team.

Toews had very good stats up until last year when the whole team collapsed. I was actually surprised by how good his stats were before that disaster year.

He'd be a fantastic 2C on that team. Him with Nuke and Lehks would be a heck of a 2nd line, especially in the playoffs.
Thing is , what teams would want to retain before we get him hypothetically? Arizona and Chicago? If the asset cost is low then it’s worth a gamble but probably not what Chicago would want (thinking Kaut and something similar that’s it )
 
Thing is , what teams would want to retain before we get him hypothetically? Arizona and Chicago? If the asset cost is low then it’s worth a gamble but probably not what Chicago would want (thinking Kaut and something similar that’s it )
No need for 2 teams to retain if they take Compher (who they can flip at the deadline for an additional pick). Toews' contract expires at the end of this year (at the same time as JTC's) so that's good too.

The risk here is we wouldn't have Compher to play center if Mack or Toews gets hurt.

If they could somehow get Rodrigues for cheap with the rest of the cap space that'd be great.
 
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