Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency (Mod Warning in OP)

[Avsboy]

Dater senses nothing going on with free agents. Senses internal options.

 

[CharlesPuck]

Dater senses nothing going on with free agents. Senses internal options.

Source: 2 months of inactivity

 

[Avaholic29]

Dater senses nothing going on with free agents. Senses internal options.

There isn’t really any free agents left that are intriguing. Internal options just as good and we can bank cap space (a lot of it) if we go that route.

 

[UncleRisto]

Dater senses nothing going on with free agents. Senses internal options.

 

[MacKaRtin]

I mean do we really think it’s going to be 3x more than the biggest jump ever though? I’m certainly not disputing the fact that some big jumps will be coming. But expecting 15 with the next closest is 6 seems incredibly generous.

The figure speculated above is +$15 million by 2025. I can totally see 2022-2023 as +1 mln (due to escrow), 2023-2024 as a smaller jump as Daly mentioned was possible due to remaining escrow (say, +3-4 mln), and then 2024-2025 being a massive leap (+10 mln) as the league has banked all that extra TV money, gambling sponsorships, etc.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[Balthazar]

Only a 4th in 2024? Cheap ass

 

[redacted]

The figure speculated above is +$15 million by 2025. I can totally see 2022-2023 as +1 mln (due to escrow), 2023-2024 as a smaller jump as Daly mentioned was possible due to remaining escrow (say, +3-4 mln), and then 2024-2025 being a massive leap (+10 mln) as the league has banked all that extra TV money, gambling sponsorships, etc.

Extra TV money and gambling are in right now… still just breaking even last year with a slight to moderate increase next year (if attendance doesn’t fully return).

Any increases to the cap from here are on attendance and extra sponsorships. Attendance being the most important.

IIRC the next TV money bump is in 25 or 26 when the Canadian deal is up.

 

[Foppa2118]

Dater senses nothing going on with free agents. Senses internal options.

Chris MacFarland 2 months ago.

“Everyone’s going to look at the second-line center hole, and we feel we’ve got internal options we can make work there. As we sit today we feel very comfortable.”

 

[Balthazar]

Chris MacFarland 2 months ago.

“Everyone’s going to look at the second-line center hole, and we feel we’ve got internal options we can make work there. As we sit today we feel very comfortable.”

Possible internal options are JTC, Newhook and Rantanen. We all know how the coach feels about the latter at center.

So basically JTC or Newhook.

 

[Foppa2118]

Possible internal options are JTC, Newhook and Rantanen. We all know how the coach feels about the latter at center.

So basically JTC or Newhook.

Actually I'm not sure we do. I think they're not totally comfortable with Mikko at center full time in the playoffs with short preparation. But they could be comfortable with Mikko at center with a full training camp of preparation.

If I were to guess, I'd say Mikko gets the first crack at it, because he's the one that potentially could solve the issue for the next few years. Compher won't solve the issue. Seems very unlikely he returns after next year either way. Avs can't afford to give a middle sixer a raise.

I think they try Mikko first. Then go to Compher/Newhook if Mikko doesn't look comfortable. Then go the trade route at the deadline. Possibly even if Compher/Newhook is playing well. I think Newy will have to have a great year to lock down the 2C role and them to forgo a trade.

 

[Avsboy]

It will probably be Compher. He’s Bednar’s step son and I think a breakout candidate this year since it’s a contract year. 50-60 points centering a methodical line of Rantanen and Lehkonen

 

[sethro109]

Possible internal options are JTC, Newhook and Rantanen. We all know how the coach feels about the latter at center.

So basically JTC or Newhook.

I think Ben Meyers well also get a long look there.

 

[AvsWraith]

Chris MacFarland 2 months ago.

“Everyone’s going to look at the second-line center hole, and we feel we’ve got internal options we can make work there. As we sit today we feel very comfortable.”

Welcome to 2C, Rants!

 

[lionsDen]

First of all, let's establish that in my personal like list. Nuke follows only Makar. I'm not trying to slander the guy, nor troll this board.

You are correct that I was speaking generally. All 32 GMs would be wise to follow that strategy, in general, and I'd say about 20 of those always do. The other dozen or so are routinely ridiculed on this board.

As for Nuke and his theoretical Conn Smythe, you are basing that on a small sample spent on the top line. Donskoi looked good with Mac and Mikko for a while last year. Calvert looked pretty good for a stretch on the top line. In 2013, Jagr proposed that Nuke would go down as one of the best ever. It took Nuke 9 years to even find a little time on the top line. 9296 remains our top line, meaning that Nuke is actually an elite 2W at best. Forecasting what he will be in 8 years is an interesting science project. This is precisely what I meant by unproven potential. Has Nuke stung together a half season on the top line yet? Nope. Has he scored 30 points in back to back years? Nope. Does he have any 60 point years? Nope.

I like Nuke a great deal, but to say that this deal is based on production is incorrect.

Nuke had 52 points in 62 games. I’m gonna go ahead and say he was a 60 point player. I have no earthly idea why you use comparisons to other players to make a point about nuke. It’s flawed logic. Limited time with limited players will give you limited results nuke when he was elevated in the lineup produced. We’re not gonna aggree here and I truly don’t and there’s nothing I’m gonna say that’s gonna change your mind. To be honest I don’t really care too.

 

[myperbixhurts]

Trade Girard for JT Miller, then resign Miller to 7×7. Word is Avs were willing to give Kadri 7 mill just not the 7 year term. They were willing to go 4 years with Naz, but Miller is 3 years younger than Kadri, you can go 7 year term. Avs would have to add, maybe Girard + the 2023 1st would do it.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

So, if revenues are up to pre-pandemic levels, does that mean the NHLPA's debt (back-escrow/whatever the heck it's called) is being paid down at a more rapid rate as well?

 

[Balthazar]

Trade Girard for JT Miller, then resign Miller to 7×7. Word is Avs were willing to give Kadri 7 mill just not the 7 year term. They were willing to go 4 years with Naz, but Miller is 3 years younger than Kadri, you can go 7 year term. Avs would have to add, maybe Girard + the 2023 1st would do it.

Miller isn't taking 7X7

 

[myperbixhurts]

Miller isn't taking 7X7

I'd even go 8X7 if that's what it takes. Don't think Miller is worth more than 8

 

[expatriatedtexan]

It will probably be Compher. He’s Bednar’s step son and I think a breakout candidate this year since it’s a contract year. 50-60 points centering a methodical line of Rantanen and Lehkonen

You know, crazier things have happened in the NHL. I mean Cody McLeod had a 15G season and Lappy got 21 in a season for us. JTC in a contract year, we'll see if he's got a soul or not.

I think Ben Meyers well also get a long look there.

I think people may be sleeping on him a bit. He looked really comfortable stepping right into the lineup last spring. With a full summer and camp to learn systems, I like his chances at least on the 3rd line.

My last question appears to have been answered. I was wondering if the Avs were really going to roll into the season with LOC penciled in on the 3rd line and a bunch of AHLrs fighting it out for the 4th RW spot...and short of a PTO, that appears to be the game plan indeed.

 

[Foppa2118]

Trade Girard for JT Miller, then resign Miller to 7×7. Word is Avs were willing to give Kadri 7 mill just not the 7 year term. They were willing to go 4 years with Naz, but Miller is 3 years younger than Kadri, you can go 7 year term. Avs would have to add, maybe Girard + the 2023 1st would do it.

Did we hear the Avs offered Naz $7M x 4? I thought we heard $6M x 4, but now I can't find it?

 

[Balthazar]

I'd even go 8X7 if that's what it takes. Don't think Miller is worth more than 8

I think he's gonna ask for 9M+ on the open market as a 1C.

Beside, we don't have enough space for our own core, let alone adding someone like JT Miller

Jesus...

 

[The Abusement Park]

The figure speculated above is +$15 million by 2025. I can totally see 2022-2023 as +1 mln (due to escrow), 2023-2024 as a smaller jump as Daly mentioned was possible due to remaining escrow (say, +3-4 mln), and then 2024-2025 being a massive leap (+10 mln) as the league has banked all that extra TV money, gambling sponsorships, etc.

15mil over the 2 years maybe. But he said it was going up 15mil in ‘25. Which is not happening.

 

[Avaholic29]

I think he's gonna ask for 9M+ on the open market as a 1C.

Beside, we don't have enough space for our own core, let alone adding someone like JT Miller

Jesus...

Cap rises and we are fine. We have enough money for the core but definitely not with an 8m Miller ontop of that.

 

[myperbixhurts]

Did we hear the Avs offered Naz $7M x 4? I thought we heard $6M x 4, but now I can't find it?

I've heard somewhere, maybe it was Friedman that it was 7 x 4