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Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Let’s Run it Back!

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The Abusement Park said:
He was also bad this year and not good against us 2 years ago with Vegas. MAF is only worth it if he comes for 1 year and he’s dirt cheap.
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Fleury was pretty good against Colorado. He gave up that awful goal to Saad but over wise the Avs struggled to crack him (4-1, 2.18 GAA, .913 SV%).

I posted this the other day after looking deeper in to MAF's 2022 season. TLDR: remove October and he was pretty good.

Rumor: - 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Let’s Run it Back!

What a bullshit move on Tampa's part. I'm even more glad we kicked the shit out of them now.
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shadow1 said:
Regarding Marc-Andre Fleury, he's a divisive player so not much I can say will change anyones minds.

But considering there is at least some smoke that he's Colorado's "Plan B", it's worth pointing out his past season wasn't as bad as the numbers may indicate:

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[TH]Record[/TH]
[TH]GAA[/TH]
[TH]SV%[/TH]
[TH]SO[/TH]
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[TD]October[/TD]
[TD]0-5-0[/TD]
[TD]4.63[/TD]
[TD]0.872[/TD]
[TD]0[/TD]
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[TD]November - April[/TD]
[TD]28-18-5[/TD]
[TD]2.76[/TD]
[TD]0.912[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

October was a nightmare for both Fleury and the Seth Jones re-tooled Blackhawks, but MAF bounced back in November. His post-October numbers aren't great, but they're good/respectable given Fleury was playing for a very bad Blackhawks team that went 9-21-7 in the games he didn't play.

For reference, his November+ numbers are similar to goalies like Campbell (28-7-5, 2.69, .913), Demko (30-19-6, 2.75, .913), and Oettinger (30-15-1, 2.53, .914) over the same period.

Just food for thought. Bookmark this post in case there's a meltdown on this board July 13th.
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I still think Darcy will re-up for around 5M. He could probably get 1M more/year on the open market, but I don't think he has that much leverage with the Avs at the moment and he seems to like the team/fit/winning
 
I mean it would've been shocking If they would've immediately agreed on a deal today, the first time they negotiated. Doesn't mean a reasonable deal won't be achieved.

I'm ready to move on from Kuemper if he wants more than 5mil.
 
Mighty Makar said:
MAF at $3M or Kuemper at $5M?
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At those numbers it’s probably a wash. I’d take Kuemper I guess. However I expect Fleury to be willing to take less than 2 to play in Colorado while I think Kuemper costs more.

I think it’s more like Fleury at 2M vs Kuemper at 5.5
 
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Fluery in tandem with Frankie, splitting game 60/40 (in either direction) would work. Mostly, I don't want Sakic to get caught scrambling like last year. Better to sign a UFA goalie than the trade route this go-around.
 
Heyduke said:
MAF could play terribly even compared to last year, and still be better in net than Kuemper was. He absolutely would be a better option, especially given the price and term.
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MAF could play terribly compared to his 90.9% season and be better than Kuemper’s 92.1% season?

An obvious reply is the difference of teams, but Kuemper has been great on mostly bad teams (91.8% career) vs MAF with his 91.3% career on pretty much only very good teams.
 
Freaky Styley said:
I still think Darcy will re-up for around 5M. He could probably get 1M more/year on the open market, but I don't think he has that much leverage with the Avs at the moment and he seems to like the team/fit/winning
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That's a solid 2M per season more than I'd be willing to pay Darcy as a GM.

Please, Joe. Just walk away. Dude is 32 years old and was the worst goalie statistically in the playoffs for a Cup winning team since Grant Fuhr in 1988. Just. Walk. Away.
 
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Joe is simply doing his due diligence to get an idea of Kuemper’s demands. During the tampering period, he’ll get a sense of where to go. But he’s definitely gonna lock down his option earlier this time to avoid what happened last season.
 
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EdAVSfan said:
Joe is simply doing his due diligence to get an idea of Kuemper’s demands. During the tampering period, he’ll get a sense of where to go. But he’s definitely gonna lock down his option earlier this time to avoid what happened last season.
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Just to be clear, the 'official' tampering period has been abolished... so GMs will go back to doing it 'unofficially' like before.
 
dahrougem2 said:
That's a solid 2M per season more than I'd be willing to pay Darcy as a GM.

Please, Joe. Just walk away. Dude is 32 years old and was the worst goalie statistically in the playoffs for a Cup winning team since Grant Fuhr in 1988. Just. Walk. Away.
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There's reasons. He was inconsistent and downright terrible some games, but also showed up in a big way some games and played very well in the latter part of the season. We don't really know how much his eye affected his game, so there's that too. Just out of curiosity, who would you replace him with?
 
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