Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Let’s Run it Back!
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SoundwaveIsCharisma
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They're just resting him because of his ongoing hangover symptoms.I can’t stand a lineup without Nuke
Richard88
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*2023*: Be forced to trade a core player when there's not enough money for raises.
Chiarelli
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Didn’t Bergeron sign a 1 year deal already for 22-23? I’d love for Boston to miss playoffs and pick him up as a rental he’s a gem
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There were rumours that he had, but nothing official, which is odd
Girard doesn't bring that return. At best he would be good for a true hockey trade for a team deep at center but needing a Top 4 defenseman with cost certainty.
Not really. JTC’s contract will expire and we would need to deal with raises to two RFAs (Byram and Newhook) and eventually re-up Mayfield. At goalie then we would have the option to check if Varly would like a “MAF special” to win a cup. Definitely doable.
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Cool fact of the day:
Fleury was the starter of his team in the last 4 playoff runs and got replaced at one point in all 4 of them. He was not injured.
He also lost his job to Matt Murray in the playoffs in Pittsburgh.
Fleury was the starter of his team in the last 4 playoff runs and got replaced at one point in all 4 of them. He was not injured.
He also lost his job to Matt Murray in the playoffs in Pittsburgh.
LOFIN
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I actually said few days ago I could reason myself going with Frankie and Annunen but I'm backtracking on that. Annunen should be given time to be in the AHL. As for Frankie, I kinda like him and could actually accept him as a starter. But the thing is, Kuemper was obviously still having issues with his eye during the SCF and Bednar/Parkkila still rather played him than Frankie. Frankie is going to be the backup. If he's the starter, Joe has f***ed up big time. But I don't expect he will.
Richard88
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Frankie is popular because he is the backup, and and a solid one at that. But I'd gander that his popularity would quickly fade if he continued to put up backup numbers as the starter for a whole season.
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I'd love to see it because 'yolo' but I don't think the Avs are looking to allocate that much $$$ to another winger. With Rantanen $9.25, Landeskog $7 and whatever Nuke and Lekhonen are going to get - I think the Avs are pretty set on the wings.
IF Nichushkin does NOT re-sign though.... maybe.
Yeah, I did not like him in the playoffs - I thought he was LA's worst d-man.
Why?
Over $14M in cap coming off the books again in 2023, between EJ(6), JTC(3.5), Edler(1.75), Mayfield(1.45), and Fleury(2).
And that $14m would just about be taken up by MacK and Byram alone. With Newhook it will be.
After next season the cap will likely be a pretty large issue. Which would add to the reasons of trying to really ramp again this season.
cinchronicity
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MAF . I want to have enough money to retain Nuke and possibly Manson. With any goalie at $5M + that becomes a difficult task.
And that $14m would just about be taken up by MacK and Byram alone. With Newhook it will be.
After next season the cap will likely be a pretty large issue. Which would add to the reasons of trying to really ramp again this season.
I mean if the Avs actually did all that, I would think Newhook is trade bait at next years deadline... He isn't cracking a Top 6 that features Mack/Mikko/Landy/Forsberg/Nuke/Trocheck any time soon.
I also don't think Byram and Mackinnon would eat up all of $14.7M either. Mack gets a ~5M raise and Byram gets a ~5.5M bridge deal. Still leaves over $5M. Meyers should eat up a couple million of that.
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Fleury played all of Vegas's minutes in 2019 and wasn't the starter in 2020. That year he was randomly peppered due to the bubble; exhibition game (W), Game 3 vs Chicago (W), Game 4 vs Vancouver (W), and Game 1 vs Dallas (L).
In 2021 Lehner was in net when they got eliminated, but like Fleury in 2020, he was peppered in randomly and never started two games in a row (who can forget Game 1 against the Avs).
I thought Fleury stunk in Game 5 against Minnesota this year and got replaced by Talbot in Game 6. But it was definitely another situation where he was on a team with another starting caliber goalie (Talbot won 32 games this year).
Could be trade bait (could make the argument he should be now)... but the point remains overall (especially as I think Mack/Byram take up 12m of that space combined). Next year the cap does gets difficult to manage and build depth. The following season brings the Toews question. The season after that we are back at the Rantanen question. Money comes off, but what comes off is pretty much directly going to raises for existing players.
letsgoavs1921
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No, Mack will add $4-$4.5. Byram about $5. So roughly $10 total addedAnd that $14m would just about be taken up by MacK and Byram alone. With Newhook it will be.
After next season the cap will likely be a pretty large issue. Which would add to the reasons of trying to really ramp again this season.
TheForsbergShow
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MacK at $12m is 5.7m. Byram at $7m is 6.1m. So I'm at 11.8.
The escrow is due to be paid off in 24-25 so 25-26 would likely be the first year of a jump. Possible that moves up a year.
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Heyduke
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Great? Only one of those goaltenders could be described as great, and it is not Kuemper. Do you think Kuemper was great last year?
bromando
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Wouldn't you also need to replace the contracts of guys that freed up that cap (EJ, Compher, and the three players you added)? Even if you go with very low replacement value players, you're looking at the rest of that 5M being eaten up immediately in those contracts.
When you consider guys like EJ and Compher coming off the books and accounting for raises for Mack and others, you always have to factor in replacing them too.
Or maybe I'm misunderstanding the back and forth here...
Yes, they would need to be replaced. I was more so making the point that the core guys could all stay in place.
I think the reality of the situation is in 2 years time this team is f***ed either way you spin it. Might as well go all in again this summer because after that some very hard decisions will have to be made and the team will get weaker for them.
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