Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Let’s Run it Back!

[JH21]

Don’t like the idea of trading Girard to dump cap, unless the assets gained are apart of a larger plan.

EJ is clearly the guy you move to dump cap, even if you have to retain 50% to push a deal across.

There is literally ZERO chance Sakic moves EJ with one year left on his deal.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Ground breaking stuff here

That help any?

 

[SirLoinOfCloth]

In shins/60 he was a #1 D

 

[JH21]

In shins/60 he was a #1 D

How dare one of his shots got blocked. One. Jesus this place sometimes

I was ecstatic when we traded Barrie who was a complete defensive liability and will be ecstatic when we trade Girard.

Yet I got screamed at by half the board sheep when I said we need to get bigger and tougher on the back end. Fast forward and G is hurt and Manson helps us win a cup. Funny how that works.

 

[Avsboy]

Graves couldn’t skate and hardly made good passes. Girard is a significantly better player.

Speaking of which, I think Maltsev will be on the 4th line next year.

 

[forsbergavs32]

I have a good source saying Girard for Barzal @ 50%

The source said something about an e5 rating I think, but I wasn’t fully listening

 

[CalderKing21]

We traded Graves who was a Top 2 defender for us for for a middling prospect and a 2nd.

Graves was never as good as some here made him out to be.
More to the point, having that 2nd freed us up to draft Behrens

 

[Balthazar]

I think Bura ends up there

 

[CalderKing21]

I think Bura ends up there

Don't say that. I am still hoping for a situation that leads to Bura and Val returning. I hate the Red Wings, Blues, Stars and Wild with a passion.

 

[SirLoinOfCloth]

How dare one of his shots got blocked. One. Jesus this place sometimes

It was literally two, in rapid succession in OT game 5, when he had at least two better passing options, including Makar.

The problem with Graves was he was a dummy who thought he was Bobby Orr. He would consistently take low percentage shots he had no business taking.

Had he passed the puck then who knows what happens, but he went in to hero mode twice in as many seconds and the puck ends up in our net. That's just absolutely idiotic decision making. This team is vastly better for not having Graves.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

We traded Graves who was a Top 2 defender for us for for a middling prospect and a 2nd.

Thanks legitimately can’t tell if you actually think Graves was a top2 dman.

 

[JH21]

Graves was never as good as some here made him out to be.
More to the point, having that 2nd freed us up to draft Behrens

And Girard isn't as good as some here make him out to be.

If the consensus in here was to hate on Girard instead of Graves then the sheep would follow.

Thanks legitimately can’t tell if you actually think Graves was a top2 dman.

He was Makar's partner for how many years?

While not ideal he is a under rated top 4 Dman and was arguably Canada's best Dman at this year's World's

But the masses in here say he sucks so it must be true.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

And Girard isn't as good as some here make him out to be.

If the consensus in here was to hate on Girard instead of Graves then the sheep would follow.



He was Makar's partner for how many years?

While not ideal he is a under rated top 4 Dman and was arguably Canada's best Dman at this year's World's

But the masses in here say he sucks so it must be true.

Considering Makar has been in the league for three years, and Toews has been his primary partner for 2/3 of those years, one. Graves was carried by Makar for one whole season.

 

[Pokecheque]

We traded Graves who was a Top 2 defender for us for for a middling prospect and a 2nd.

Never has a phrase been more out of context than “Graves who was a top 2 defender”.

 

[JH21]

It was literally two, in rapid succession in OT game 5, when he had at least two better passing options, including Makar.

The problem with Graves was he was a dummy who thought he was Bobby Orr. He would consistently take low percentage shots he had no business taking.

Had he passed the puck then who knows what happens, but he went in to hero mode twice in as many seconds and the puck ends up in our net. That's just absolutely idiotic decision making. This team is vastly better for not having Graves.

Do you say the same thing when EJ hits the shins 3 times a game? Or when literally every other single Dman does it?

If you played hockey you'd know that from a very young age you're taught to get the puck on net from the high slot. You never pass to the corner. Watch any game and tell me how many Dmen pass to the corner from the high slot. It never happens.

Yet you regurgitate the same crap that everyone else does in here. His shots got blocked. Big deal. It happens like 20 times a game.

Considering Makar has been in the league for three years, and Toews has been his primary partner for 2/3 of those years, one. Graves was carried by Makar for one whole season.

Ask Jersey fans how they like Graves. Ask Team Canada how they liked him at this year's World's.

Or just spew out the same nonsense garbage that everyone else in here says.

I wanted Barrie gone. I want Girard gone. And I've been slammed from day 1 because of those opinions. Because the masses like Barrie and G even if they have no clue about hockey.

 

[JH21]

Never has a phrase been more out of context than “Graves who was a top 2 defender”.

Was he not a top 2 defender for us? He was a valuable top 4 defender when we traded him.

 

[Avsboy]

I have no problems with a player shooting from the high slot. But you need to be able to skate to make up for mistakes. Graves couldn’t skate.

 

[JH21]

I have no problems with a player shooting from the high slot. But you need to be able to skate to make up for mistakes. Graves couldn’t skate.

What an absurd statement.

Graves can skate quite well for being 6'5, 220. He sure as hell can skate better than EJ.

The smart play would have been to keep Graves and trade Girard who is literally useless.

We now wouldn't be searching for a top 4 Dman to replace Manson.

 

[shadow1]

The idea is to make cap room for others

If Sakic trades Girard, in return he better be receiving the kitchen sink, faucet, counter top, and cabinets.

Jake Bean, who's less than a month younger than Girard, somehow returned a 2nd round pick at last year's draft based purely on upside. Meanwhile, Sammy G is one of only three defensemen (Chychrun, Sergachev) age 24 or younger to have more than 300 regular season games under their belt (340).

I'm obviously okay with any move that makes Colorado better long term, but there are definitely a lot of plusses to keeping Girard. He's young as heck, can reliably play 22+ minutes per night, and still has five years left on his team friendly deal. Looking big picture, when 30-year-old pending UFA Devon Toews undoubtably prices himself out in two years, 26-year-old Girard will still anchor the second pairing with three years left on his deal (with Byram and Makar on the top pairing, obviously).

I see a lot of people saying "trade Girard, sign Manson". That's the ultimate New York Rangers/Toronto Maple Leafs move: invest long term in the older role player on last year's cup team. Mason was extremely solid in the playoffs, but was god awful in the regular season. It was all anyone was talking about for weeks. Though Manson rebounded big in the playoffs, he only averaged 15:51 in the WCF + SCF, and that includes three overtime games. I thank him for his service and look forward to Sakic acquiring Manson 2.0 at next year's deadline.

 

[Avsboy]

What an absurd statement.

Graves can skate quite well for being 6'5, 220. He sure as hell can skate better than EJ.

The smart play would have been to keep Graves and trade Girard who is literally useless.

We now wouldn't be searching for a top 4 Dman to replace Manson.

EJ is a better player defensively than Graves, know what it's like to be skilled offensively, and once had good skating ability. Graves is absolutely not a good skater at all. He just is not. He's also not particularly physical. Girard is a superior player by a good margin.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

 

[CalderKing21]

And Girard isn't as good as some here make him out to be.

If the consensus in here was to hate on Girard instead of Graves then the sheep would follow.



He was Makar's partner for how many years?

While not ideal he is a under rated top 4 Dman and was arguably Canada's best Dman at this year's World's

But the masses in here say he sucks so it must be true.

I get it now. You're trolling. Ok, masterful job. You almost had me thinking you were serious.

 

[JH21]

If Sakic trades Girard, in return he better be receiving the kitchen sink, faucet, counter top, and cabinets.

Jake Bean, who's less than a month younger than Girard, somehow returned a 2nd round pick at last year's draft based purely on upside. Meanwhile, Sammy G is one of only three defensemen (Chychrun, Sergachev) age 24 or younger to have more than 300 regular season games under their belt (340).

I'm obviously okay with any move that makes Colorado better long term, but there are definitely a lot of plusses to keeping Girard. He's young as heck, can reliably play 22+ minutes per night, and still has five years left on his team friendly deal. Looking big picture, when 30-year-old pending UFA Devon Toews undoubtably prices himself out in two years, 26-year-old Girard will still anchor the second pairing with three years left on his deal (with Byram and Makar on the top pairing, obviously).

I see a lot of people saying "trade Girard, sign Manson". That's the ultimate New York Rangers/Toronto Maple Leafs move: invest long term in the older role player on last year's cup team. Mason was extremely solid in the playoffs, but was god awful in the regular season. It was all anyone was talking about for weeks. Though Manson rebounded big in the playoffs, he only averaged 15:51 in the WCF + SCF, and that includes three overtime games. I thank him for his service and look forward to Sakic acquiring Manson 2.0 at next year's deadline.

Are you new here?

How many playoffs in a row had G been caved in? Is this 4 now?

Like Barrie he is a massive liability defensively. As someone said earlier, we won a cup with Manson replacing G and likely would be another 2nd round exit if we had him.

I get it now. You're trolling. Ok, masterful job. You almost had me thinking you were serious.

You didn't watch any NJ games or the World's did you?

 

[CalderKing21]

You didn't watch any NJ games or the World's did you?

I did. Hence my thought process that you have to be trolling.

 

[Pokecheque]

Was he not a top 2 defender for us? He was a valuable top 4 defender when we traded him.

He was great his first full season complementing the eventual Calder winner, but I would not call him a top two guy anymore than I’d call Patrik Nemeth a top four guy because he happened to be paired with Barrie.

FTR I still really like Graves as a player (who has to be used a certain way to succeed) but the Vegas series (and his rough outing against Dallas the year before) made it clear he needed to go.

I did. Hence my thought process that you have to be trolling.

Naw. He’s not trolling. Trolls don’t believe the shit they post. He somehow does.