Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Let’s Run it Back!

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So what are the backup plans? I doubt Sakic makes a trade. He needs to keep G around to replace Manson. And I doubt Sakic spends big in free agency.

Kadri and Burakovsky are gone. That's alot of scoring to replace. Maybe we add a 2C to replace some of Kadri's scoring and Newhook could potentially replace Burakovsky's scoring. But those are two big "maybes"
Remember when we lost all that scoring from Donskoi and Saad. Pepperidge farm remembers.....
 
My concern with Girard is his value without being on the PP/less TOI and how he reacts to all that in terms of his confidence. It's no secret GM's love d-men with size/physicality .. and if Girard's point totals take a hit and he's making 5 mill a year not sure that's a luxury you can afford in our situation. I think it's possible he has alot more value than he will next offseason .. especially if Byram continues to break out and GM's know the cap crunch is coming.

It just makes so much sense to cash in on his value right now. We just won the cup without him. I get with Byram's injury issues Girard would be great insurance .. not sure you want a 5 mill dollar 3rd pairing d-men as insurance when your trying to go back to back.
The entirety of this comment is dumping on his value and him as a player. Allow me to point out that this physical stalwart you describe was just traded from Tampa to Nashville because he's not more like Girard. Let that sink in. How many teams have LD of Toews- Byram- Girard. If Girard is on your 3rd pairing, you're in great shape - but that goes without saying because it was just on full display during recent weeks.
 
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Sure if that means Sorokin or Barzal… unlikely but who else is worth it from the Island? Beauvillier?
 
The entirety of this comment is dumping on his value and him as a player. Allow me to point out that this physical stalwart you describe was just traded from Tampa to Nashville because he's not more like Girard. Let that sink in. How many teams have LD of Toews- Byram- Girard. If Girard is on your 3rd pairing, you're in great shape - but that goes without saying because it was just on full display during recent weeks.

Huh? I'm not saying I'm biased towards that. Actually the opposite honestly. I think GM's get that wrong personally. For every Manson there's some random plug that disappoints. Just saying if Girard's point totals take a hit and teams know we need to move him we might not get as much value for him in a year or two.

Also I don't get the recent weeks comment. We literally just won a cup without him? Also no shit we'd be better off with all 3 of them .. but the cap is a real thing. Were going to lose Kadri, Bura, and honestly who knows at this point with Nuke. We have 3 first pairing caliber defensemen, including the best defensemen in the league. If now isn't the time to trade off defensive depth to help the loss of the forward depth I don't know when it will be.

Different players/situation but it really does remind me of Barrie. Fanbase split of how good he is/wanting to move him.
 
You obviously don't move Girard for the sake of moving him but I also don't subscribe to the "if player x gets hurt our D gets real thin."

Well, yeah. That happens to every team. If Victor Hedman goes down all of a sudden Cal Foote is playing 22 minutes. If Connor McDavid goes down all of a sudden Ryan McLeod is a top six centre. If Drew Doughty goes down Sean Durzi is playing 25 minutes. Etc, etc.

Don't keep Girard "just in case." This team is going to have a clear hole at 2C. If (when) Kadri walks and this team cannot sign one of Trocheck/Malkin to replace him, you have to find someone to do the job and lord knows it ain't J.T Compher, Ben Meyers or Alex Newhook.

You obviously don't give him away for scraps. It has to be a hockey trade the way Kadri came here.
 
Huh? I'm not saying I'm biased towards that. Actually the opposite honestly. I think GM's get that wrong personally. For every Manson there's some random plug that disappoints. Just saying if Girard's point totals take a hit and teams know we need to move him we might not get as much value for him in a year or two.

Also I don't get the recent weeks comment. We literally just won a cup without him? Also no shit we'd be better off with all 3 of them .. but the cap is a real thing. Were going to lose Kadri, Bura, and honestly who knows at this point with Nuke. We have 3 first pairing caliber defensemen, including the best defensemen in the league. If now isn't the time to trade off defensive depth to help the loss of the forward depth I don't know when it will be.

Different players/situation but it really does remind me of Barrie. Fanbase split of how he good he is/wanting to move him.
He's a stylistic representation of how the SC champs play. Points? The Avs just put transition hockey, where they activate defensemen, on full display and they were without their 3rd/4th best at this.

Like I said before, McDonagh is the epitome of what you say GMs value. Yet the GM of the team who empolyed McDonagh just discarded him because he's not more like Girard. What do you say about that?
 
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You obviously don't give him away for scraps. It has to be a hockey trade the way Kadri came here.

For me it's so similar. I thought some really overrated Barrie much like Girard but both were great players in there own right. We had a clear hole, and clear replacement so making a hockey trade just made so much sense. I wouldn't be huge on flipping him for picks and prospects ... but it's not like those can't be moved for someone who can make an impact next season/cap space used to keep people.

It's obviously different because Girard is signed long term unlike Barrie was .. but even if Barrie was on a solid contract for an extended period of time that Kadri move was the right one.
 
He's a stylistic representation of how the SC champs play. Points? The Avs just put transition hockey, where they activate defensemen, on full display and they were without their 3rd/4th best at this.

Like I said before, McDonagh is the epitome of what you say GMs value. Yet the GM of the team who empolyed McDonagh just discarded him because he's not more like Girard. What do you say about that?

Yeah I'm kinda lost at this point. McDonagh is 33 years old and on a pretty bad contract not sure what he has to do with this at all. If anything it just shows that teams have to make sacrifices. Tampa doesn't move McDonagh if they don't need to re-sign Palat etc. or he's making 3 mill. If anything it proves my point. Didn't realize it was a hot take to point out that GM's will overpay for size/physicality on the backend.

I was mostly just saying if Girard doesn't get any PP time, and doesn't thrive with less responsibility/TOI and his confidence is affected and his point totals take a hit than teams may ding the 5'10/170 pound d-men in trade talks. I think everyone knows Girard is elite in transition. He's a very good dmen and I'd love to keep him. I just don't think it makes sense keeping him as a 3rd pairing guy at 5 mill a season when our forward core is potentially getting destroyed in FA.

Hopefully I'm wrong but I think Nuke/Lehky etc. are getting more than some people on here think. I think there's a very real possibility we lose Kadri and Bura .. and either give Nuke a big payday or he walks too.
 
You obviously don't give him away for scraps. It has to be a hockey trade the way Kadri came here.

The Girard situation is really similar to the Barrie situation for me. Love both, think both get overrated by our own fanbase at times, in a perfect world I wouldn't want to trade either but it just makes so much sense to move them. We have a replacement on deck, and much bigger holes than the roles they will fill on this team.

I know Girard is signed long term unlike Barrie so it's much different in that sense .. but even if Barrie was on a great long term contract I would have wanted him traded for a C. There was the arguments that having Makar/Barrie pushing the pace on your top two pairing would be a huge advantage. Much like having Toews/Byram/Girard down the left size would be amazing ... but not having a 2C/ruining your forward depth is a bigger hole than those things were strengths IMO.
 
What? Get Gibson tomorrow. This team isnt going to be as good as it was this year. Need a goalie who can steal a game here and there not Ville Husso.
It ain’t Gibson or Flower either. Husso is a risk. He could be like Frankie or he could be like Sarros. I’d still take a chance on him over Gibson or MAF.

So here's a thought, what about Gudbranson for a Manson-type replacement?

I thought he was pretty decent in the playoffs. Feels like he's been around FOREVER but he's still only 30 years old.

Upon closer inspection, he rarely stays healthy, so in that case he'd be a Ryan Murray replacement. :sarcasm:
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Might as well get Kakko too. Rantanen, Lehkonen, Puljujarvi, and Kakko in the top nine.

How? That's not my job, I'm just out here giving some good suggestions. Acquire diminished assets with solid underlying numbers and watch them flourish here.
 
I wouldn't mind the Avs taking a look at either Ethan Bear via trade or Mark Pysyk as a UFA on D.
I watched Bear play quite a bit on the T-Birds. I’m happy he made the big show but I don’t like him for the Avs. I would still love Middleton Or Soucy. I like Mayfield too but he can’t skate with us.
 
Stay far away from any of the big UFA names, everyone is getting outrageous money. Every single time GMs cannot wait to destroy their teams on the opening day of free agency.

Show me a team up a Sam Girard, but down a Josh Manson & I’ll show you a 5th 2nd rd exist in 6 years. You don’t win Stanley Cups with Sam Girards.
This should be clear by now. Gets crushed every time and his body simply cannot take it.
 
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They might as well just trade St Louis Game 6 warrior JT Compher. Girard has to bring back a good forward. Any trade involving picks/prospects would make us all upset.

We traded Graves who was a Top 2 defender for us for for a middling prospect and a 2nd.
 
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