Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Let’s Run it Back!

[Bill Peckerskull]

Boston? Kadri? I can't see Naz signing there.

Seattle? I doubt Kadri wants to go play for a bottom feeding team that will likely be there for the next 4/5 years.

My money is on one of these three teams: Philadelphia, Buffalo, or Detroit.

I think Naz ends up with NYR. Copp walks.

I think DK ends up in Edmonton on a dumb deal and Joe trades for a goalie no one is expecting, or signs MAF to a cheaper deal opening up cap space for another player.

 

[Bender]

Ava won the SCF with their skating. Speed and execution.

Sure but some of those guys aren't the fastest and were able to compete just fine. For instance, if you're giving me a choice between Aubel-Kubel and Stastny as a 3rd line player, I'll take Stastny but that's just me.

 

[Richard88]

Sounds like GMs and Agents are on the way to crazy town once again this summer.


If Kadri can get 8+, Darcy 6.5+, Mikheyev 5.5, etc. It's probably not a bad idea to just do nothing once again for us.


Do nothing, wait out the absolute shit storm of bad contracts and then look at options afterwards. Seems like lots of teams are just going to kill themselves with awful contracts anyway.



Re-Sign Lehky, Re-Sign Nuke(Though honestly he might be priced out) and then just wait and see what unfolds.

It wouldn't be ideal but still somewhat amusing if we went into next season with a boatload of capspace.

If nothing else it would allow Sakic to pounce on any trade opportunities early in the season where the Avs would almost certainly be the only contender with significant room to add without sending money back the other way.

 

[flyfysher]

Sure but some of those guys aren't the fastest and were able to compete just fine. For instance, if you're giving me a choice between Aubel-Kubel and Stastny as a 3rd line player, I'll take Stastny but that's just me.

37 years old and you’re willing to sign Stastny for the full season?

 

[dahrougem2]

I wouldn't rule out Seattle, Their record wasn't great, of course, but they lost a lot of close games and if Grube returns to even close to 2021 form they could surprise a lot of people. Being a Northwest resident I am admittedly biased but I will say Seattle would be a nice fit for Kadri off the ice. It really depends on how much he wants to win a 2nd Cup or, given this is his last big contract, how much he wants to set himself and his family up for. I wish him nothing but the best either way.

That's the thing - I don't see Grubauer returning to anywhere close to 2021 level. I think he's awful.

Philadelphia already have Hayes and Couturier. Do you think they move Hayes to LW or what's the idea there?

I think they go 1/2/3 and trying to overwhelm teams down the middle. Also wouldn't shock me to see them trade Kevin Hayes. Kadri seems very much like a Torts guy.

 

[CalderKing21]

Sounds like GMs and Agents are on the way to crazy town once again this summer.


If Kadri can get 8+, Darcy 6.5+, Mikheyev 5.5, etc. It's probably not a bad idea to just do nothing once again for us.


Do nothing, wait out the absolute shit storm of bad contracts and then look at options afterwards. Seems like lots of teams are just going to kill themselves with awful contracts anyway.



Re-Sign Lehky, Re-Sign Nuke(Though honestly he might be priced out) and then just wait and see what unfolds.

That’s every summer. Lest we forget the Clarkson contract.

 

[Muffin]

If the rumor of Campbell asking for 6M is true it doesn’t surprise me Kuemper wants 6.5M considering he had better stats than Campbell and just won the cup.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

What are people's thoughts on Athanasiou as essentially a Bura replacement?

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

That’s every summer. Lest we forget the Clarkson contract.

Yeah, the last couple of summers have been more tamed then usual though thanks to Covid and the cap strap as well as money strap of a lot of teams.


But it looks like hockey is back baby! And GMs are back to being 90% idiots while the other 10% are the ones who end up winning cups. Fortunately Sakic falls in that other 10%.

I guess the idea that by the 24/25 season the Cap could see a significant rise is contributing to teams getting trigger happy early.

 

[Bender]

37 years old and you’re willing to sign Stastny for the full season?

Nope, you've convinced me. He's a horrible, horrible player and we should stay the hell away from that guy. Even though he put up 20 goals last year, he's cheating - he's basically only doing it with PP time and the fact that he and Adam Lowry's dad are best friends.

He only scores tap-in goals when other players set him up and he has miniature, tiny jet-packs attached to his skates to help him skate because he's about twice as slow as Kurtis Macdermid.

 

[niwotsblessing]

I agree. It's not just picks though. An extra ~$2.5m could be useful too. Meyers could very well be a direct replacement too.

Meyers showed more hockey IQ and Try Hard in the handful of games he played than JTC did all season.

 

[Frenchy]

To add to this:

Friedman and Kyper both agreed the Avs wouldn't do it and that he'd need to take 1M-1.5M less to stay. But the open market could easily hit 6.5M.

Apparently Kadri's number starts with an 8, and teams like Seattle and Boston would pull the trigger

I could see Kadri in a Bruins uniform , he's their type of player no doubt .

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Meyers showed more hockey IQ and Try Hard in the handful of games he played than JTC did all season.

LOL

 

[flyfysher]

Nope, you've convinced me. He's a horrible, horrible player and we should stay the hell away from that guy. Even though he put up 20 goals last year, he's cheating - he's basically only doing it with PP time and the fact that he and Adam Lowry's dad are best friends.

He only scores tap-in goals when other players set him up and he has miniature, tiny jet-packs attached to his skates to help him skate because he's about twice as slow as Kurtis Macdermid.

If you want to pay an old injured player to sit on the bench then have at it. It’s not like Sakic was beating on the Jets door to acquire Stastny at this last TDL much less past opportunities to go after the guy. That, to me, is far more telling of the Avs lack of interest in Stastny than a comment on your sage, analytical ability why Stastny is such a great option.

It’s weird to look back at the 2016-2017 season and the youth push thereafter and now have long time fans advocating for acquiring the hockey equivalent of the geriatric set thinking they’re not only going to make it through an entire RS schedule but also the grueling grind and war of attrition that is the POs. I mean just read through the injury thread and tell me how wise it is to bring on a 37 year old Stastny with that expectation.

 

[Muffin]

Is there rumors of EJ retiring?

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

If Stastny wants to try and win a cup, I'd take him here for cheap for sure. Key is it'd have to be cheap. I dont expect him to come at Helms $1M price, but something like $2.5M and to be our 3C, not 2C. Then assuming we re-sign Nuke(5.5M) and Lehky(4M) we would have:

Landy - Mack - Nuke
Lehky - ???? - Rantanen
JTC - Stastny - Newhook
LOC - Meyers - Helm/Cogliano


Should leave them with around $12M to get a 2C, Goalie, and #5/6D.

 

[Bender]

If you want to pay an old injured player to sit on the bench then have at it. It’s not like Sakic was beating on the Jets door to acquire Stastny at this last TDL much less past opportunities to go after the guy. That, to me, is far more telling of the Avs lack of interest in Stastny than a comment on your sage, analytical ability why Stastny is such a great option.

It’s weird to look back at the 2016-2017 season and the youth push thereafter and now have long time fans advocating for acquiring the hockey equivalent of the geriatric set thinking they’re not only going to make it through an entire RS schedule but also the grueling grind and war of attrition that is the POs. I mean just read through the injury thread and tell me how wise it is to bring on a 37 year old Stastny with that expectation.

LOL always fun to read people who never really provide their own insight but love to just tear down other people's thoughts even though it may have just been a passing idea but DO continue to argue it TO DEATH as if it's some kind of hill that I need to die on or something??

Jesus Christ, as if a 3rd line player making $2M who just as recently as LAST SEASON put up 20 goals + 40 points in a similar role is something to actually get worked up about?? They could do a lot worse. If it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out.

But you know, FEEL FREE to voice your disagreement (which you have SEVERAL TIMES NOW) and MOVE THE f*** ON.

You remind me of my mom's latest boyfriend a person I internally refer to as Dr. Thumb (because he's missing a thumb)

A person, I did not like from the get-go because he likes to argue about EVERYTHING and especially stuff that has no importance :

Dr. Thumb - "Hey do you think the Nordiques will ever return to Quebec?"

Me - "Well, maybe, you never know..." [just being polite since you know, I've just met you this instant]

Dr. Thumb - "C'mon now, are you popping crazy pills?? They'll NEVER return to Quebec"

Me "Ok." (I DON"T GIVE A f***)

He does that for EVERYTHING... the weather, current events, OMG don't get him started on anything political.

Yeah, my mom dumped his thumbless ass.

 

[shadow1]

If you want to pay an old injured player to sit on the bench then have at it. It’s not like Sakic was beating on the Jets door to acquire Stastny at this last TDL much less past opportunities to go after the guy. That, to me, is far more telling of the Avs lack of interest in Stastny than a comment on your sage, analytical ability why Stastny is such a great option.

It’s weird to look back at the 2016-2017 season and the youth push thereafter and now have long time fans advocating for acquiring the hockey equivalent of the geriatric set thinking they’re not only going to make it through an entire RS schedule but also the grueling grind and war of attrition that is the POs. I mean just read through the injury thread and tell me how wise it is to bring on a 37 year old Stastny with that expectation.

To be fair Stastny has only missed 11 games the last three seasons (and all 11 were in 2022, with a huge chunk of those due to the COVID protocol).

I get why Stastny is a lightning rod player for this board because he's talked about every off-season. But Stastny is still a big upgrade over the Aube-Kubel's of the world. Obviously you don't bring him in unless it's a sweetheart/cup chase discount type contract though (i.e. 1x$1.5M).

 

[Richard88]

I don't care about Stastny either way, but I'd rather have Stastny at $2m for a year than Jost at $2m...

Ideally Stastny would be more of a cheap deadline pickup though, like next year's Sturm at the same price (5th) paid for Cogliano.

 

[Balthazar]

Madness

 

[niwotsblessing]

LOL

Care to expand on that?

 

[flyfysher]

LOL always fun to read people who never really provide their own insight but love to just tear down other people's thoughts even though it may have just been a passing idea but DO continue to argue it TO DEATH as if it's some kind of hill that I need to die on or something??

Jesus Christ, as if a 3rd line player making $2M who just as recently as LAST SEASON put up 20 goals + 40 points in a similar role is something to actually get worked up about?? They could do a lot worse. If it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out.

But you know, FEEL FREE to voice your disagreement (which you have SEVERAL TIMES NOW) and MOVE THE f*** ON.

You remind me of my mom's latest boyfriend a person I internally refer to as Dr. Thumb (because he's missing a thumb)

A person, I did not like from the get-go because he likes to argue about EVERYTHING and especially stuff that has no importance :

Dr. Thumb - "Hey do you think the Nordiques will ever return to Quebec?"

Me - "Well, maybe, you never know..." [just being polite since you know, I've just met you this instant]

Dr. Thumb - "C'mon now, are you popping crazy pills?? They'll NEVER return to Quebec"

Me "Ok." (I DON"T GIVE A f***)

He does that for EVERYTHING... the weather, current events, OMG don't get him started on anything political.

Yeah, my mom dumped his thumbless ass.

Really, based on what you’ve seen from the Avs- what makes you think they have any interest in signing Stastny now especially given his production. I mean I get your argument based on need for a 3C and Stastny’s production but we already have JTC and we were already complaining about his salary and how a million bucks here or there would make a huge difference. So I neither see the interest on the Avs’ part or a pressing need IMO to bring Stastny back. Maybe the Avs decide this part of their contention window requires signing aged vets like Stastny, Malkin and Giroux. I just think it’s unwise and there will be better choices. It seems premature to me to be signing cup chasing vets but Sakic did at least inquire about Giroux. So you might be right. However, I don’t think Sakic ever made a similar inquiry with Stastny.

 

[shadow1]

Madness

I can totally see Seattle giving him like $9.5x6, naming him captain, and then Kadri scoring 62 points in 82 games.

As Francis is getting fired he'll be asking himself "what happened?", even though 62 points would be Kadri's second best season in 14 year NHL career.

 

[Richard88]

Madness

LOL

Kadri picked a good time to have a career year. Teams lining up to give him 1C money

 

[Azrael89]

Madness

10 million for Kadri? Good for him, awful for literally any team that signs that.