Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Let’s Run it Back!

[Balthazar]

Where are you seeing this? A 4.2 million offer should be a 1st and 3rd rounder as compensation if anything under 5 years and more if longer.

Edit: looked it up and in 2022 an offer of 4.2 is the cutoff between a 2nd and a 1st + 3rd. Don’t think the Avs need to worry about an offersheet here.

Why not?
4.2M or less = 2nd round pick
More than 4.2M = a 1st + 3rd which is still less than what we paid for him (and his value certainly didn't drop since)

You think no team would want Lehkonen on a 4-5 year deal for a 1st and a 3rd? I disagree.

 

[lionsDen]

Naz and Manson are two big reasons why we won the cup. You try to keep the team together at all costs

Agree heart and soul player who draws a lot of attention and thrives while doing it freeing up teammates. It could be said Colorado might not have beaten St. Louis without naz

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Servalli says Kadri is high on NYR’s FA list. He also speculates he is such a hot commodity that he could make $8M+/7 years.

Also says Avs can’t pay Lehkonen more than $4M and could be a offersheet target. Which is just blatantly false. We can pay Lehky.

I dont think it's blatantly false at all.


Especially if the Avs want to keep as many guys from this core together next year, they probably can't pay Lehky over $4M.



It's why going for a 2 year deal in the neighborhood of $3.5M is the best bet for him. Keeps his AAV down while we are in the best window to win a cup.


If we lose him in 2 years time, it is what it is. We likely won't have cap space for him at that point anyway.

 

[Balthazar]

I dont think it's blatantly false at all.


Especially if the Avs want to keep as many guys from this core together next year, they probably can't pay Lehky over $4M.



It's why going for a 2 year deal in the neighborhood of $3.5M is the best bet for him. Keeps his AAV down while we are in the best window to win a cup.


If we lose him in 2 years time, it is what it is. We likely won't have cap space for him at that point anyway.

A second line winger making 4.X is cheap. If we don't have cap space for that in 2 years something went very wrong.

 

[hughdreamz]

I dont think it's blatantly false at all.


Especially if the Avs want to keep as many guys from this core together next year, they probably can't pay Lehky over $4M.



It's why going for a 2 year deal in the neighborhood of $3.5M is the best bet for him. Keeps his AAV down while we are in the best window to win a cup.


If we lose him in 2 years time, it is what it is. We likely won't have cap space for him at that point anyway.

I think Lehky is getting at least $4.5M and if we can’t afford a 2nd liner for that much then we completely f***ed up somewhere.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Why would Seattle back up the truck for Nichushkin? He has more value to teams on the precupice. Seattle’s not a Nichuskin away from contending.​

 

[hughdreamz]

Why would Seattle back up the truck for Nichushkin? He has more value to teams on the precipice. Seattle’s not a Nichuskin away from contending.​

Just cuz they have money I guess

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I think Lehky is getting at least $4.5M and if we can’t afford a 2nd liner for that much then we completely f***ed up somewhere.

I mean... they can afford it, but it means losing a core roster player somewhere else.


He doesn't have an arbitration case for 4.5M+. If he gets a 4-5 year deal that buys a bunch of UFA years maybe. But on a 2 year deal, $3.5M is his comparable range.

 

[Avs_19]

I wanted to keep Naz but have just assumed it's not happening and he's going to another team.

After his performance at the parade today, he's a must re-sign. Whatever it takes to get it done. Pay him under the table and risk losing your franchise, Kroenke, Risk it all.

 

[Vakarte]

According to evolving hockey contract projections, they project Lehky to sign for this much. If I'm Sakic, I'm jumping on that ASAP.

 

[Freaky Styley]

Doughty
Roy
Walker
Spence
Durzi

That's a crowded right side on LA's blueline... and Spence and Durzi took some big steps this year.

They're probably not interested in trading Roy and even if they were the price would probably be too high.

But what about Sean Walker? He loves to join the rush and is a decent puckmover which fits the Avs style perfectly. He'll also probably be available relatively cheap, probably for like a 3rd round pick or so, and has a manageable $2.65m X 2 contract. Obviously he had a significant knee injury which would make it risky, but if he stays healthy he could be a sneaky good cheap pickup to replace Manson who likely prices himself out of Colorado.

Been on this train for like 4 months now. Jeez, keep up Richard.

 

[hughdreamz]

I mean... they can afford it, but it means losing a core roster player somewhere else.


He doesn't have an arbitration case for 4.5M+. If he gets a 4-5 year deal that buys a bunch of UFA years maybe. But on a 2 year deal, $3.5M is his comparable range.

Cap going up (exponentially likely next year). A $4.5M 2nd line winger won’t cause the loss of a core player. Who would the core player even be? MacKinnon’s money is there when EJ’s is gone, Makar is locked up, Landeskog is locked up, Rantanen is locked up. Can fit a Byram extension. That’s the core.

 

[Avaholic29]

I dont think it's blatantly false at all.


Especially if the Avs want to keep as many guys from this core together next year, they probably can't pay Lehky over $4M.



It's why going for a 2 year deal in the neighborhood of $3.5M is the best bet for him. Keeps his AAV down while we are in the best window to win a cup.


If we lose him in 2 years time, it is what it is. We likely won't have cap space for him at that point anyway.

It’s very easy to keep lehkonen and Nichushkin. At worst you shop Compher.

Lehkonen isn’t going anywhere mark my words.

 

[Balthazar]

According to evolving hockey contract projections, they project Lehky to sign for this much. If I'm Sakic, I'm jumping on that ASAP.

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I would too but keep in mind that this includes his numbers in Montreal where he was put strictly on a 3rd line defensive role. Here he's playing top 6 minutes with PP opportunities.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Cap going up (exponentially likely next year). A $4.5M 2nd line winger won’t cause the loss of a core player. Who would the core player even be? MacKinnon’s money is there when EJ’s is gone, Makar is locked up, Landeskog is locked up, Rantanen is locked up. Can fit a Byram extension. That’s the core.

If you keep Lehkonen and pay him $4.5M... You're almost certainly losing one of Kadri or Nichushkin.

It’s very easy to keep lehkonen and Nichushkin. At worst you shop Compher.

Lehkonen isn’t going anywhere mark my words.

Where did anybody say we would lose Lehkonen?


All I said was the Avs probably can't afford to go above $4M for him and will likely use arbitration to try and keep him in that 3.5-4M bracket.



If somebody sent him an OS for ~4.5M, the Avs will most likely begrudgingly match, but it would mean cuts elsewhere in the lineup.

 

[Vakarte]

Speaking of goaltenders, any chance we can get Jonathan Quick on the trade market as he's got 1 year left on his deal + LA signed their new goalie Cal Petterson to a big deal months ago?

 

[Avaholic29]

If you keep Lehkonen and pay him $4.5M... You're almost certainly losing one of Kadri or Nichushkin.



Where did anybody say we would lose Lehkonen?


All I said was the Avs probably can't afford to go above $4M for him and will likely use arbitration to try and keep him in that 3.5-4M bracket.



If somebody sent him an OS for ~4.5M, the Avs will most likely begrudgingly match, but it would mean cuts elsewhere in the lineup.

There’s a million different possibilities to gain cap room and sakic will do it to keep a guy like lehkonen 100%. Lehkonen and nuke are bednar players to a tee and completely redefine the avs top 6. Might need to use internal players in the bottom 6 or vet minimum. Sakic clearly said he wasn’t trading for a rental, there’s a reason he got lehkonen. Kadri is almost certainly gone when a team offers him term and high AAV, I can see sakic going higher AAV but for 3-4 years.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Well. Somehow my sisters boyfriend snuck his way into the party tonight with the team. So first off f*** that guy.

Second, said they did a big jersey signing/ceremony specifically for Kadri. Not that it’s much of a surprise but definitely looks like Kadri is 100% leaving.

 

[hughdreamz]

I mean... they can afford it, but it means losing a core roster player somewhere else.


He doesn't have an arbitration case for 4.5M+. If he gets a 4-5 year deal that buys a bunch of UFA years maybe. But on a 2 year deal, $3.5M is his comparable range.

Cap going up (exponentially likely next year). A $4.5M 2nd line winger won’t cause the loss of a core player. Who would the core player even be? MacKinnon’s money is there when EJ’s is gone, Makar is locked up, Landeskog is locked up, Rantanen is locked up. Can fit a Byram extension. That’s the core.

If you keep Lehkonen and pay him $4.5M... You're almost certainly losing one of Kadri or Nichushkin.



Where did anybody say we would lose Lehkonen?


All I said was the Avs probably can't afford to go above $4M for him and will likely use arbitration to try and keep him in that 3.5-4M bracket.



If somebody sent him an OS for ~4.5M, the Avs will most likely begrudgingly match, but it would mean cuts elsewhere in the lineup.

Kadri is definitely a goner anyways. He’s not a core member of the team either. Giving Lehky $4.5M doesn’t affect anything really and he’s more than worth the money.

God I really want us to get Puljujarvi. A line up with Lehkonen, Nichushkin, and Puljujarvi would make us a forechecking monster.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Cap going up (exponentially likely next year). A $4.5M 2nd line winger won’t cause the loss of a core player. Who would the core player even be? MacKinnon’s money is there when EJ’s is gone, Makar is locked up, Landeskog is locked up, Rantanen is locked up. Can fit a Byram extension. That’s the core.

Kadri is definitely a goner anyways. He’s not a core member of the team either. Giving Lehky $4.5M doesn’t affect anything really and he’s more than worth the money.

God I really want us to get Puljujarvi. A line up with Lehkonen, Nichushkin, and Puljujarvi would make us a forechecking monster.

The cap is not going up exponentially next year... That's literally just completely made up.


The players are still 2+ years away from paying off the debts to the owners.


Also, just because the cap goes up doesn't mean we automatically have a bunch of space. The cap is going up this year and we still can't afford to keep everyone...


Kadri is certainly more of a core player to this team than Lehkonen is. If it's between one or the other, the 2C is far more important.

 

[hughdreamz]

The cap is not going up exponentially next year... That's literally just completely made up.


The players are still 2+ years away from paying off the debts to the owners.


Also, just because the cap goes up doesn't mean we automatically have a bunch of space. The cap is going up this year and we still can't afford to keep everyone...


Kadri is certainly more of a core player to this team than Lehkonen is. If it's between one or the other, the 2C is far more important.

There’s speculation the cap could go up quite a bit next year. League is recovering. No one expected the $1M bump for 22-23 a year ago.

I agree a 2C can be a core piece of a team but Kadri specifically is not. He’s gonna make $7M+ on the open market. At his age he’s not worth it. Love the guy but we also need the reality check that he just had an anomaly of a year that will never even be close to replicated the rest of his career. Therefore, you can pay Lehky $4.5M+ if necessary because Kadri is gone either way. That’s the original point I was making.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Pulju ain’t coming to Colorado. There are 31 other teams the Oilers will trade him to over Colorado.

I’d be pretty shocked if Lehkonen gets offer-sheeted. I know there was one given out last year, but it’s just not that common.

I’m fully expecting something like a 4 X $4M extension to be announced at some point. As an aside, I wouldn’t say he’s a sure-fire second liner at this point. I think he’s more of a 2nd/3rd line hybrid.

 

[hughdreamz]

Pulju ain’t coming to Colorado. There are 31 other teams the Oilers will trade him to over Colorado.

I’d be pretty shocked if Lehkonen gets offer-sheeted. I know there was one given out last year, but it’s just not that common.

I’m fully expecting something like a 4 X $4M extension to be announced at some point. As an aside, I wouldn’t say he’s a sure-fire second liner at this point. I think he’s more of a 2nd/3rd line hybrid.

The guy bounced between the 1st and 2nd lines of a Cup champion in the finals. I think Lehky proved he’s the truth. At $4-5M we’re gonna look at his next contract as a HUGE bargain.

 

[hughdreamz]

Now this would be a huge mistake.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

The guy bounced between the 1st and 2nd lines of a Cup champion in the finals. I think Lehky proved he’s the truth. At $4-5M we’re gonna look at his next contract as a HUGE bargain.

I’m a fan for sure and he’s definitely clutch, but we’re kind of going off one year of production here.

Lehkonen’s career high before this season was 31 points. $5M seems a bit steep to me, though I think he’d probably live up to it over the course of the deal.