Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Let’s Run it Back!

[Richard88]

Dan Rosen: Avs #1 target in goal could be Fleury

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The Avs are great defensively and tend to give up few chances, but the ones they do give up tend to result in a higher proportion of High-danger chances than average. Thus they need a starting goalie who is good at stopping HD chances.

As shown in the charts below Grubauer and Kuemper have both been excellent in HDGSAA, finishing 2nd and 3rd in the league in their respective last seasons with the Avs.

That being the case, I wonder if Fleury's High-danger save stats last year (the last season he played behind a contender) where he finished 4th behind Vasi, Grubauer, and Shesterkin, will weigh heavily in convincing the Avs that he can do the job.

2020/21:

2021/22:

If MAF only wants $1-2 mil that’s probably the best value option. I think he has enough gas in the tank to be comparable to Husso/Kuemper/Campbell next season.

It also potentially sets us up for a trade for Helle/Gibson next offseason since we didn’t need to waste any assets a goalie.

If Avs are gonna pony up for a legit elite starter they should do it before next season, not after. Next season is their best chance at another cup.

 

[Balthazar]

If MAF only wants $1-2 mil that’s probably the best value option. I think he has enough gas in the tank to be comparable to Husso/Kuemper/Campbell next season.

It also potentially sets us up for a trade for Helle/Gibson next offseason since we didn’t need to waste any assets a goalie.

We got away with subpar goaltending this year but that's not going to happen every year. In fact we beat some record for the crappiest goaltending to win a cup in 40 years or something.

We'll need help from the goalie if we want to repeat.

I don't care if he's cheap, MAF shouldn't be an option.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Yup if MAF wants to chase a cup and sign for like $2M, he'd be my #1 target this summer.


Avs proved this year they can win a cup with average, hell below average goaltending, in the playoffs. I think Fleury is capable of being good enough to win with and on a $2M deal you're saving upwards of $4M that they could spend elsewhere.


Would go a long way in being able to potentially keep both Naz and Nuke around.

 

[Richard88]

Doughty
Roy
Walker
Spence
Durzi

That's a crowded right side on LA's blueline... and Spence and Durzi took some big steps this year.

They're probably not interested in trading Roy and even if they were the price would probably be too high.

But what about Sean Walker? He loves to join the rush and is a decent puckmover which fits the Avs style perfectly. He'll also probably be available relatively cheap, probably for like a 3rd round pick or so, and has a manageable $2.65m X 2 contract. Obviously he had a significant knee injury which would make it risky, but if he stays healthy he could be a sneaky good cheap pickup to replace Manson who likely prices himself out of Colorado.

 

[PAZ]

We got away with subpar goaltending this year but that's not going to happen every year. In fact we beat some record for the crappiest goaltending to win a cup in 40 years or something.

We'll need help from the goalie if we want to repeat.

I don't care if he's cheap, MAF shouldn't be an option.

I agree my preference is getting a better goaltender than MAF, but what's the alternative? Because Kuemper, Husso, Campbell, etc. aren't it.

 

[Richard88]

I agree my preference is getting a better goaltender than MAF, but what's the alternative? Because Kuemper, Husso, Campbell, etc. aren't it.

Blackwood for Burakovsky's UFA rights and a pick

 

[PAZ]

Blackwood for Burakovsky's UFA rights and a pick

I have more faith in MAF than Blackwood.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

I agree my preference is getting a better goaltender than MAF, but what's the alternative? Because Kuemper, Husso, Campbell, etc. aren't it.

Gibson with retention. Then you probably have to trade G for a 2C, and let Manson and Naz walk.

 

[PAZ]

Gibson with retention. Then you probably have to trade G for a 2C, and let Manson and Naz walk.

Ya it's a feasible option and probably would be up there with one of my top choices, but it's going to cost Newhook. Personally, I'd only do it if it becomes a bigger deal - i.e. Gibson + Comtois for Newhook + 1st + Compher type of deal.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Ya it's a feasible option and probably would be up there with one of my top choices, but it's going to cost Newhook. Personally, I'd only do it if it becomes a bigger deal - i.e. Gibson + Comtois for Newhook + 1st + Compher type of deal.

Yeah, it would suck losing all of Naz, Manson, Newhook, JTC, and Kuemper for just Gibson, and then have to trade G for a 2C. That's a lot to lose off your team., and then on top of that, there's no guarantee Joe can keep Nuke for what he might want. These next 2 weeks are gonna be nuts.

 

[PAZ]

Yeah, it would suck losing all of Naz, Manson, Newhook, JTC, and Kuemper for just Gibson, and then have to trade G for a 2C. That's a lot to lose off your team., and then on top of that, there's no guarantee Joe can keep Nuke for what he might want. These next 2 weeks are gonna be nuts.

On the flipside if we do end up losing them, I can easily see players like Colin Miller, Domi, Tierney, etc. very interested in signing a cheap deal to try and rebuild their value. Maybe this is also the year Stastny finally comes back to Denver

Either way, I agree this offseason is going to be crazy.

 

[Pokecheque]

Can’t wait for DeBoer to blame him for a loss and the Stars try and bury his contract in the minors.

 

[Avaholic29]

We are back to talking about fleury!? He got pulled for talbot in the playoffs, per the usual story every year.

 

[Richard88]

Yeah, it would suck losing all of Naz, Manson, Newhook, JTC, and Kuemper for just Gibson, and then have to trade G for a 2C. That's a lot to lose off your team., and then on top of that, there's no guarantee Joe can keep Nuke for what he might want. These next 2 weeks are gonna be nuts.

Losing a lot of guys would suck, but there's a silver lining to that...

A lot of the guys have spoken about how focussed and motivated this group were this year to win for the vets like Cogliano, JJ, EJ, etc. A cup run is also extremely draining physically, mentally, and emotionally.

If you bring all the same guys back, there may not be that same "win it for the vets" motivation, and it's inevitable that the team will have a dip in focus and motivation after already winning. It's only natural, and it's why going back to back is so tough.

That being said, if you bring in a handful of new depth guys and veterans who are hungry to win their first cups you can recreate a bit of that same motivation and give the team some fresh energy.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Future Av.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Husso likely to Leafs

Edit: better not be like last year and all the goalies are gone before Joe realizes it.

Because it all ended up so poorly for Colorado.

 

[Avaholic29]

Because it all ended up so poorly for Colorado.


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Hahahaha people still finding ways to be negative is funny.

 

[cinchronicity]

Was meandering around the main board. Apparently Pool Party wants out of Edmonton.

Speculation: - Once again, Puljujarvi wants out, and Oilers are ready to accommodate with a trade

https://www.sportsnet.ca/article/once-again-puljujarvi-wants-out-and-oilers-are-ready-to-accommodate-with-a-trade/

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He could be a good pickup.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Was meandering around the main board. Apparently Pool Party wants out of Edmonton.

Speculation: - Once again, Puljujarvi wants out, and Oilers are ready to accommodate with a trade

https://www.sportsnet.ca/article/once-again-puljujarvi-wants-out-and-oilers-are-ready-to-accommodate-with-a-trade/

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He could be a good pickup.

He's a bust. Want nothing to do with him.

 

[Tommy Shelby]

Gonna be interesting to see how many of these FA losers who would normally snub us want to come crawling to the Mighty Colorado River Team for less than market value now that we finally got a cup

 

[avsfan9]

Gibson with retention. Then you probably have to trade G for a 2C, and let Manson and Naz walk.

Naz and Manson are two big reasons why we won the cup. You try to keep the team together at all costs

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Naz and Manson are two big reasons why we won the cup. You try to keep the team together at all costs

They simply aren't gonna be able to keep everyone. There's not enough cap space. You keep Manson and Naz, then you're looking at losing 2 of Kuemper, Nuke, and Girard. I'm already assuming Bura is gone. It's unfortunate, but it's reality.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[flyfysher]

He's a bust. Want nothing to do with him.

No offense. You might be right. You might be wrong. I know nothing about Pool Party cuz I don’t follow other players closely. But…I know @RoyIsALegend was one of only 7 posters, and he was the only regular whose name I recognized, that initially liked Sakic’s signing of Nuke. All of the rest of us idiots were like ‘meh.’ So I’ll defer to RIAL’s judgment about Pool Party. He knows a f***ing warrior when he sees one.