Rumor: 2022-2023 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Let’s Run it Back!

[Foppa2118]

That's what mismanagement looks like for the Wild.

You make a great trade to get Fiala for Granlund. But then you can't keep him because you have $13M in dead cap space with Suter and Parise who's buyout didn't really give them much cap savings at all the next three years because the deals were so front loaded.

Then they'll have 1 year of Kaprizov with a low cap hit from Suter and Parise, before he all but assuredly bolts for UFA.

They should have found a way to dump Suter and Parise in Arizona instead.

 

[Mighty Makar]

We'll play LA in WCF next season. Looking forward to smashing Blues to bits in the 2nd round again

Vegas will be in the thick of things.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

That’s what I’m getting at. I thought he’d be in the higher 8’s potentially.

Ahh my bad. I thought your hot damn was thinking it was really high


Yeah I think if Fiala had just went for his Qualifying offer this year and then signed as a UFA next year, he probably gets like 8.5. Definitely took a little off the top on this deal.

 

[The Abusement Park]

That's what mismanagement looks like for the Wild.

You make a great trade to get Fiala for Granlund. But then you can't keep him because you have $13M in dead cap space with Suter and Parise who's buyout didn't really give them much cap savings at all the next three years because the deals were so front loaded.

Then they'll have 1 year of Kaprizov with a low cap hit from Suter and Parise, before he all but assuredly bolts for UFA.

They should have found a way to dump Suter and Parise in Arizona instead.

Definitely sucks for Guerin considering it’s a mess he didn’t have anything to do with those contracts.

Also I’m sure he tried to move the contracts but those things were un-tradeable essentially. 3 more years at 8mil with full NMC’s.

 

[Islay1989]

Vegas will be in the thick of things.

Nah. Kings are the real deal. What they did this year missing all of their D was amazing. They needed a dynamic forward and they have one now, to go along with two C's who are elite defensively and an underrated D. They match up favorably against anyone in the Pacific.

 

[tucker3434]

That's what mismanagement looks like for the Wild.

You make a great trade to get Fiala for Granlund. But then you can't keep him because you have $13M in dead cap space with Suter and Parise who's buyout didn't really give them much cap savings at all the next three years because the deals were so front loaded.

Then they'll have 1 year of Kaprizov with a low cap hit from Suter and Parise, before he all but assuredly bolts for UFA.

They should have found a way to dump Suter and Parise in Arizona instead.

 

[AvsWraith]

Kadri, Copp, Trocheck...

Kuemper, Husso, Fleury, Campbell...

Kadri's gone. He's gonna get paid big time. Copp wanted to go to New York, if I remember correctly, so I think he'll re-sign there. Trocheck is probably the only possibillity but I don't know how much will be left after Nuke and Lehk get their contracts. Gonna take 5.5-6M or so for Trocheck.

Campbell would be my pick out of those names.

Either way, we're still gonna need that 5M that G is getting, especially if EJ doesn't retire. No way to pay Nuke, Lehk, 2C, goalie, and then MacK and Bo extensions next year.

 

[Richard88]

Dhaliwal is reporting that the Canucks have spoken to Montreal in regards to Mikey Dipietro and that the young prospect goalie is likely to be moved before draft.

Dipetro is one of the Canucks top goaltender prospects. 3rd round pick 2017, Just turned 23 yrs old

Canucks goaltender coach Ian Clarke seems to have his next prodigy targeted in Arturs Silovs who performed amazingly for Latvia at the most recent World Championshios. 21 yr old Silovs finished the tournament with a .952 SV percentage and outperformed countryman Elvis Merzlinkis.

Silovs is likely pegged as the number 1 goalie for the Canucks AHL team this season which leaves Dipietro available to be moved.

Dipetro has shown well but also has had his development stunted due to the pandemic.

Before beind drafted by the Canucks, Dipietro already came in with an impressive resume


- OHL Goaltender of the Year
- Memorial Cup Top Goaltender
- Team Canada World Jr starting Goalie

If I was a team looking for a goalie, id definitely target the Canucks's system, mainly due to Ian Clarke and his development with netminders. Demko, Markstorm, Schneider, Lack

Dipietro on the block apparently. Considering how thin the Avs are organisationally in net would he be worth taking a flier on?

Kadri's gone. He's gonna get paid big time. Copp wanted to go to New York, if I remember correctly, so I think he'll re-sign there. Trocheck is probably the only possibillity but I don't know how much will be left after Nuke and Lehk get their contracts. Gonna take 6M or so for Trocheck.

Campbell would be my pick out of those names.

Either way, we're still gonna need that 5M that G is getting, especially if EJ doesn't retire. No way to pay Nuke, Lehk, 2C, goalie, and then MacK and Bo extensions next year.

You can pay everyone you listed. The decision on Girard (or Toews) would only need to be made in 2023.

 

[Richard88]

That's what mismanagement looks like for the Wild.

You make a great trade to get Fiala for Granlund. But then you can't keep him because you have $13M in dead cap space with Suter and Parise who's buyout didn't really give them much cap savings at all the next three years because the deals were so front loaded.

Then they'll have 1 year of Kaprizov with a low cap hit from Suter and Parise, before he all but assuredly bolts for UFA.

They should have found a way to dump Suter and Parise in Arizona instead.

Didn't Suter and Parise have full NMC's? Meaning that Arizona wasn't an option

 

[AvsWraith]

Dipietro on the block apparently. Considering how thin the Avs are organisationally in net would he be worth taking a flier on?


You can pay everyone you listed. The decision on Girard (or Toews) would only need to be made in 2023.

You could also trade G, plug MacDonald in, and still be just as fine. G is not needed, we proved that.

 

[Richard88]

Nah. Kings are the real deal. What they did this year missing all of their D was amazing. They needed a dynamic forward and they have one now, to go along with two C's who are elite defensively and an underrated D. They match up favorably against anyone in the Pacific.

They also have a hoard of good prospects they can part with to load up at the deadline.

 

[Foppa2118]

Didn't Suter and Parise have full NMC's? Meaning that Arizona wasn't an option

Yeah good point. They did have a full move and probably wouldn't have waived for Arizona.

Feels like they could have moved it though. Everyone else seems to be able to do so with their "unmovable" contracts.

 

[Richard88]

Yeah good point. They did have a full move and probably wouldn't have waived for Arizona.

Feels like they could have moved it though. Everyone else seems to be able to do so with their "unmoveable" contracts.

Guessing that Suter's ego was more unmovable than the contract itself...

 

[Freedom Elz]

LA just acquired Fiala from the Wild and gave him a 7 year deal worth a little under 8 million per season. Kadri is probably going to want that type of money - term wise I don't see him getting a 7 year deal since he'll be 32 before the next season starts.

 

[JLo217]

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Looks like someone I knew who lived in the middle of the So Cal desert

 

[flyfysher]

Nah. Kings are the real deal. What they did this year missing all of their D was amazing. They needed a dynamic forward and they have one now, to go along with two C's who are elite defensively and an underrated D. They match up favorably against anyone in the Pacific.

Kings will be good but those chrome domes are horrifying.

 

[Avsboy]

That Fiala extension is huge!

 

[Foppa2118]

Bo and OO for a pending UFA Horvat would be stupid.

No way that's the price. Vancouver might even have to add to Horvat to get Byram, whether Horvat is signed or not.

Every GM in the league would be drooling over the idea of bringing in Byram after his playoffs and finals. Especially the home of his former junior team.

 

[forsbergavs32]

I don’t expect Kadri back at all and I’m ok with him wanting to get paid. He was on a VERY friendly deal and now he got his cup so he can go get his last big paycheck. Someone is gonna pay him 8-9m

 

[PAZ]

Yeah good point. They did have a full move and probably wouldn't have waived for Arizona.

Feels like they could have moved it though. Everyone else seems to be able to do so with their "unmovable" contracts.

If the player won't waive their NMC not much you can do if they don't want to leave, especially when most GMs wouldn't have the balls to actually buy them out so any talks fell on deaf ears.

Healthy scratching them isn't an option since they're still obligated to be around the team and want to play. So it's either you keep them and let them keep an old boys club in Minny, or you buy them out and try and create a new culture.

I'm not going to complain watching Minny flounder around as playoff bubble team for the next few years as they try to navigate the cap and appease their superstar.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Yeah the KIngs are very good, and still have a top tier prospect pool as well. They've drafted ridiculously well over the last 3-4 years and now they were ahead of schedule because of how well some of those guys played for them this year to get into the playoffs and nearly win a round.


I still dont think they are done either. They have a couple extra Dmen to move, and still 4-5 Forward prospects and only a couple roster spots.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Yeah the KIngs are very good, and still have a top tier prospect pool as well. They've drafted ridiculously well over the last 3-4 years and now they were ahead of schedule because of how well some of those guys played for them this year to get into the playoffs and nearly win a round.


I still dont think they are done either. They have a couple extra Dmen to move, and still 4-5 Forward prospects and only a couple roster spots.

Hey, if they want to throw Matt Roy at Colorado, I'd be all over it.

 

[cinchronicity]

Swapping Girard and Kadri for Horvat and Manson (~$4m) works out the same capwise ($9.5m) so it's definitely doable (and that's without even factoring in Manson's $2m that he's currently on, but let's say that $2m goes to Horvats extension long term).

Horvat $5.5m
Manson $4m

Kadri $4.5m
Girard $5m

Not here to disagree, but Manson's AAV is $4M, though with $2M retained he only costs $2M.

I've been against moving Girard, mostly due to the terror of losing Toews to free agency. But Manson Toews could be a good second D-line next year, and Sakic will have to pull a RH PMD out of his butt when Toews inevitably leaves.

I love Kadri. Have since Juniors. I'll cheer for him when he returns if he does take money elsewhere. But if Sakic can get a 5 year younger Horvat, for $1M lower AAV, I am all in...including the loss of Girard.

 

[Richard88]

Landeskog - MacKinnon - Lehkonen
Nichuskin - Malkin - Rantanen
Newhook - Meyers - Compher
Cogliano - Helm - O'Connor

Byram - Makar
Toews - Girard
JJ - EJ

Anybody
Francouz

Make it happen, Joe. That 2nd line would be an absolute beast.


Edit: This is just about doable cap-wise if you get slight but not unrealistic discounts from a few guys. If needed you could replace Kuemper with a cheaper goalie to make it work, or trade JTC. It's a 22 man roster with Sedlak and MacDermid as scratches, and $422k in capspace to accrue.

 

[cinchronicity]

Swapping Girard and Kadri for Horvat and Manson (~$4m) works out the same capwise ($9.5m) so it's definitely doable (and that's without even factoring in Manson's $2m that he's currently on, but let's say that $2m goes to Horvats extension long term).

Horvat $5.5m
Manson $4m

Kadri $4.5m
Girard $5m

Not here to disagree, but Manson's AAV is $4M, though with $2M retained he only costs $2M.

I've been against moving Girard, mostly due to the terror of losing Toews to free agency. But Manson Toews could be a good second D-line next year, and Sakic will have to pull a RH PMD out of his butt when Toews inevitably leaves.

I love Kadri. Have since Juniors. I'll cheer for him when he returns if he does take money elsewhere. But if Sakic can get a 5 year younger Horvat, for $1M lower AAV, I am all in...including the loss of Girard.