Prospect Info: 2022-2023 Rangers Prospects Thread (Player Stats in Post #1; Updated 06.04.2023)

[cwede]

What's a realistic projection on Edstrom?

no way to know, really
he wasn't a standout at home
but he has size, and plays a physical game,
if that goal reflects genuine skill, he might become a useful NHL bottom 6

a couple months in the fall w Hartford will tell a lot more

 

[cwede]

Major Junior games resume tonight

I added Pack and Jax round 1 series to chart

 

[Hunter Gathers]

no way to know, really
he wasn't a standout at home
but he has size, and plays a physical game,
if that goal reflects genuine skill, he might become a useful NHL bottom 6

a couple months in the fall w Hartford will tell a lot more

I want him to get a full year of North American physical training, too.

 

[RangerBoy]

Ontario Hockey League

The OHL consists of 20 member teams, including 17 in the province of Ontario as well as three in the United States, with two in the state of Michigan and one in the state of Pennsylvania.

ontariohockeyleague.com

GWG and an assist

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Cyrillic or Greek letters would be amazing to see, at the very least on a heritage night or something. I know the Panthers did something similar to celebrate a milestone for Bobrovsky. I don't expect that to ever become the standard

That said, I will go to war to get the NHL to properly convert letters from Cyrillic to Latin, and get Shestyorkin's name on his jersey the right way LOL

But for now, I will settle for teams getting diacritics right for players.

Don't players tell the team how to spell their name?

Regardless, I've made this point before but Shesterkin pronounced like his name is pronounced by every announcer in the NHL sounds a lot closer to how Shesterkin is pronounced in Russian than if they changed the spelling to be Shestyorkin. Semyon Varlamov is butchered so badly. It's NOT Simeean, it's not even close. It's Sem-yo-n (actually technically it's S-ye-m-yo-n). If he spelled his name Semen and it was pronounced like Semin, that would actually be closer to what his name is pronounced in Russian than the way they pronounce it currently. Adding a "yo" is not the solution because Americans and Canadians just can't pronounce it properly. Considering Semen/Semyon was my grandfather's name this is a hill I'm going to die on.

 

[Kaapo Bustfreniere]

This is literally sad that it hasn't been done for years this way...

Fun fact. Did you know Jagr's name was actually Jágr?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Don't players tell the team how to spell their name?

Regardless, I've made this point before but Shesterkin pronounced like his name is pronounced by every announcer in the NHL sounds a lot closer to how Shesterkin is pronounced in Russian than if they changed the spelling to be Shestyorkin. Semyon Varlamov is butchered so badly. It's NOT Simeean, it's not even close. It's Sem-yo-n (actually technically it's S-ye-m-yo-n). If he spelled his name Semen and it was pronounced like Semin, that would actually be closer to what his name is pronounced in Russian than the way they pronounce it currently. Adding a "yo" is not the solution because Americans and Canadians just can't pronounce it properly. Considering Semen/Semyon was my grandfather's name this is a hill I'm going to die on.

My main issue is that the NHL cannot decide what standard to use.

It's either Semyon Varlamov, Igor Shestyorkin, Artyom Zub And Vadim Shipachyov

Or

Semen Varlamov, Igor Shesterkin, Artem Zub And Vadim Shipachev.

But if the "yo" is wrong, why is the KHL using it?

And no, players don't get asked. That's the whole problem I'm trying to address here. For me it is more about diacritics.

Sýkora, not Sykora
Edström, not Edstrom
Hájek, nor Hajek
Halák, not Halak
Chmelař, not Chmelar
Väisänen, not Vaisanen

 

[nyr2k2]

If it is something that the player is passionate about and that really matters to them, the team should accommodate the player.

If it isn't something a particular player cares about, then I don't think the NHL should worry about it since 95% of the announcers and fans aren't willing or able to understand and pronounce the relatively subtle differences. I mean our people can't accurately pronounce names without any of the diacritics. Barclay Goodrow has both his first and last name pronounced at least a handful of different ways.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

If it is something that the player is passionate about and that really matters to them, the team should accommodate the player.

If it isn't something a particular player cares about, then I don't think the NHL should worry about it since 95% of the announcers and fans aren't willing or able to understand and pronounce the relatively subtle differences. I mean our people can't accurately pronounce names without any of the diacritics. Barclay Goodrow has both his first and last name pronounced at least a handful of different ways.

It's not about pronunciation. That's a whole different debate.

A lot of players care, but they don't ask for it. Either they don't feel comfortable, or they just let is slide. Why should it only be done at the request of the player? That seems backwards to me.

The Leafs put a lot of effort into it and have all the names properly spelled on jerseys.

 

[nyr2k2]

It's not about pronunciation. That's a whole different debate.

A lot of players care, but they don't ask for it. Either they don't feel comfortable, or they just let is slide. Why should it only be done at the request of the player? That seems backwards to me.

The Leafs put a lot of effort into it and have all the names properly spelled on jerseys.

I don't know, man. I see like three people pushing this argument over the years and they're all fans on Twitter. It seems to not be so much of an issue. Maybe it is, and maybe if one of the players who apparently felt passionate about it spoke up, something would happen. Otherwise...I'm inclined to believe it's not really a big deal.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I don't know, man. I see like three people pushing this argument over the years and they're all fans on Twitter. It seems to not be so much of an issue. Maybe it is, and maybe if one of the players who apparently felt passionate about it spoke up, something would happen. Otherwise...I'm inclined to believe it's not really a big deal.

And yet the Wolf Pack didn't hesitate to do it for Edström. The Leafs and marlies, and Canucks, and Senators have done it for their players.

Some teams care, others don't. It should be standardised. Other leagues do it. Why can't the NHL?

 

[cwede]

3 wins in Game 3's for Major Junior prospects on Tuesday
Wed evening:
Grubbe goes for sweep,
Barbashev has their Game 3
Korczak with a Game 4
Pack at Springfield to open best-of-3

 

[bhamill]

And yet the Wolf Pack didn't hesitate to do it for Edström. The Leafs and marlies, and Canucks, and Senators have done it for their players.

Some teams care, others don't. It should be standardised. Other leagues do it. Why can't the NHL?

While I don't think it's one of the NHL's more pressing issues, I agree they should do it. And every team should have a phonetic spelling of all players' names available for announcers/sportscasters who want to get pronunciations right, as well. It's such an easy thing to do.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

While I don't think it's one of the NHL's more pressing issues, I agree they should do it. And every team should have a phonetic spelling of all players' names available for announcers/sportscasters who want to get pronunciations right, as well. It's such an easy thing to do.

Leafs do a video at the start of the season with every player pronouncing their names. It's something they've done in a lot of European leagues for years. It's such an easy concept.

 

[2014nyr]

My main issue is that the NHL cannot decide what standard to use.

It's either Semyon Varlamov, Igor Shestyorkin, Artyom Zub And Vadim Shipachyov

Or

Semen Varlamov, Igor Shesterkin, Artem Zub And Vadim Shipachev.

But if the "yo" is wrong, why is the KHL using it?

And no, players don't get asked. That's the whole problem I'm trying to address here. For me it is more about diacritics.

Sýkora, not Sykora
Edström, not Edstrom
Hájek, nor Hajek
Halák, not Halak
Chmelař, not Chmelar
Väisänen, not Vaisanen

not that it's something i follow or know why its a thing unless players care about it ....

anecdotally i could swear it was mentioned that it came up with laf if he wanted the dash thing over the e and he was like yea sure so but it's the only time i ever remember hearing anything about this subject. maybe they aren't asked directly and it's taken from some form or document their agent or something submits, but i'd be floored if igor made it an issue the team would tell him to kick rocks.

 

[EpicDing]

My main issue is that the NHL cannot decide what standard to use.

It's either Semyon Varlamov, Igor Shestyorkin, Artyom Zub And Vadim Shipachyov

Or

Semen Varlamov, Igor Shesterkin, Artem Zub And Vadim Shipachev.

But if the "yo" is wrong, why is the KHL using it?

And no, players don't get asked. That's the whole problem I'm trying to address here. For me it is more about diacritics.

Sýkora, not Sykora
Edström, not Edstrom
Hájek, nor Hajek
Halák, not Halak
Chmelař, not Chmelar
Väisänen, not Vaisanen

The NHL will never ever ever advertise a player's name as "Semen," that's why there's a double standard. For quite obvious reasons. You got me on Shipachev/chyov, but regardless.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

My main issue is that the NHL cannot decide what standard to use.

It's either Semyon Varlamov, Igor Shestyorkin, Artyom Zub And Vadim Shipachyov

Or

Semen Varlamov, Igor Shesterkin, Artem Zub And Vadim Shipachev.

But if the "yo" is wrong, why is the KHL using it?

And no, players don't get asked. That's the whole problem I'm trying to address here. For me it is more about diacritics.

Sýkora, not Sykora
Edström, not Edstrom
Hájek, nor Hajek
Halák, not Halak
Chmelař, not Chmelar
Väisänen, not Vaisanen

Yo is not wrong per se. It's just that it leads to a worse butchering of the name by the announcers than it would with the more English spelling.

 

[bhamill]

Leafs do a video at the start of the season with every player pronouncing their names. It's something they've done in a lot of European leagues for years. It's such an easy concept.

Every team should do it.

 

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delete

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

not that it's something i follow or know why its a thing unless players care about it ....

anecdotally i could swear it was mentioned that it came up with laf if he wanted the dash thing over the e and he was like yea sure so but it's the only time i ever remember hearing anything about this subject. maybe they aren't asked directly and it's taken from some form or document their agent or something submits, but i'd be floored if igor made it an issue the team would tell him to kick rocks.

Yeah, why is proper spelling of names a thing? Jeez, I don't know. Here's my question: Why does it have to be a big deal to get it right? Why do players have to specifically request it? Why can't it just become the standard? There are so many examples of it being done already, dating back to Peter Šťastný in Quebec.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Yeah, why is proper spelling of names a thing? Jeez, I don't know. Here's my question: Why does it have to be a big deal to get it right? Why do players have to specifically request it? Why can't it just become the standard? There are so many examples of it being done already, dating back to Peter Šťastný in Quebec.

Players have to request it since you can't blame the equipment folks for knowing every single letter to put something over.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Players have to request it since you can't blame the equipment folks for knowing every single letter to put something over.

That's a pretty lame excuse, sorry. How can other teams do it without players having to request it? This stuff should not be reactionary IMO.

 

[nyr2k2]

This is the prospect thread who cares

 

[Hunter Gathers]

That's a pretty lame excuse, sorry. How can other teams do it without players having to request it? This stuff should not be reactionary IMO.

Yet . . .

 

[egelband]

Maybe Grubbe didn't want to play here?

I mean, to be clear--I liked Grubbe but he's not a high-end prospect IMO. Profiled as a good 4th line C, maybe a 3C if the offense came around. Obviously not something you'd want to just throw away, but feels like there's more to it.

For every Adam Fox there’s a Jayden Grubbe. It balances out…