Prospect Info: 2022-2023 Rangers Prospects Thread (Player Stats in Post #1; Updated 06.04.2023)

[ColonialsHockey10]

Just tired of your doomsday worst case scenario with every single post.

It’s never as bad as you think it is. Case in point: Othmann didn’t get cut from Team Canada

I’ve constantly spoken up about Othmann being a great player and his play having nothing to do with the circumstances of being cut from Team Canada. They are always wacky with their selections. I even said it was unlikely. Never said a negative thing about Sykora either - just curious if there is more to him being transferred to junior.

He looks way larger than I remember in these videos. Maybe just big next to Bedard.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Othmann with his second goal with 5 seconds left in the 2i

 

[Clark Kellogg]

I’ve constantly spoken up about Othmann being a great player and his play having nothing to do with the circumstances of being cut from Team Canada. They are always wacky with their selections. I even said it was unlikely. Never said a negative thing about Sykora either - just curious if there is more to him being transferred to junior.





He looks way larger than I remember in these videos. Maybe just big next to Bedard.

If you’re talking about last year’s team Canada, I believe the reason why he wasn’t on the team had nothing to do with his play but because he was playing on an OHL, U.S. based team and there was too much border restrictions do to Covid.

 

[eco's bones]

I think with Canada and the United States there is such a large pool of players to pick from to make a WJC team and it's not just about putting together an all star team of the most productive players. If that were the case then probably Brett Berard doesn't make the the USA WJC team a couple years ago and Noah Laba doesn't make it this year. Those putting together these teams are looking for different qualities some times for their lower lines and Brett Berard brought an intense forechecking and back checking game into the mix for the United States team....along with some opportunistic scoring and his offensive game has grown since then.

It may be that covid and playing for a United States team in the OHL was the reason for Othmann not being chosen but there might have been other reasons as well....other players that fit the mix that the Canadian coaches wanted.

 

[McRanger92]

Othmann is untouchable. I think hes going to be a really good player. His direct comp on the roster is Kravtsov so I am curious to see how the next year plays out between the 2 of them

 

[cwede]

Othmann is untouchable. I think hes going to be a really good player. His direct comp on the roster is Kravtsov so I am curious to see how the next year plays out between the 2 of them

or IMHO '24-25,
despite his production vs teens (and ~30 Swiss games),
here's hoping Othmann follows a conventional ascension arc
spending most of his age 20-21 season in Hartford,
getting used to playing vs rosters of men, and deeper/better competition
NYR deep at W, no reason to rush him

 

[Ranger Ric]

Yeah can't imagine it happens that often. I've really liked what I've seen from him though, glad to see it's being recognized elsewhere. He's not going to be a star or anything like that but could be a nice under the radar pick for Drury. Seems like everyone that watches the kid has nothing but positive things to say about him.

I listened to Chris Peters' podcast and today he went over the key players for the world juniors. Mentioned Othmann and Sykora as expected. Also said Noah Laba had a great camp and was going to be the fourth line center. Physical kid who can skate.

 

[nyr2k2]

Laba is going to be my new Fogarty.

 

[kovazub94]

Laba is going to be my new Fogarty.

Why would you doom a prospect's fate like this?

 

[RangersFan1994]

Laba is going to be my new Fogarty.

He better be better although most thought Fogarty was the next Dom Moore. Personally he was not given much of a shot here. sadly his progression stopped after college in my opinion. Should have made it as a tough guy with his lack of offensive skills of any kind,

 

[cwede]

Laba is going to be my new Fogarty.

He better be better although most thought Fogarty was the next Dom Moore. Personally he was not given much of a shot here. sadly his progression stopped after college in my opinion. Should have made it as a tough guy with his lack of offensive skills of any kind,

FyI Wild recalled Fogs today!

 

[nyr2k2]

The reality is that the 72nd pick of the draft is not going to be an NHL player very often. I mean I know we drafted Buchnevich and Duclair in the third but we also took Tambellini in that round, and Tambo is more like the rule than the exception the other two guys are.

With that in mind, while I did think Fogarty would stick as a really effective 4C, drafting a solid 4A guy with great intangibles is not a bad return at 72. Fogarty was a good, cost-controlled organizational guy for several years for us, which is valuable in its own right.

 

[RangersFan1994]

The reality is that the 72nd pick of the draft is not going to be an NHL player very often. I mean I know we drafted Buchnevich and Duclair in the third but we also took Tambellini in that round, and Tambo is more like the rule than the exception the other two guys are.

With that in mind, while I did think Fogarty would stick as a really effective 4C, drafting a solid 4A guy with great intangibles is not a bad return at 72. Fogarty was a good, cost-controlled organizational guy for several years for us, which is valuable in its own right.

Dom Moore was 95th overall and turned into an NHL player. I think scouting is not that good in the early rounds. Boo Nieves and Lindbom is a prime examples of that

 

[nyr2k2]

Dom Moore was 95th overall and turned into an NHL player. I think scouting is not that good in the early rounds. Boo Nieves and Lindbom is a prime examples of that

Our scouting? Definitely a mixed bag.

Around the league the scouting is generally pretty good. I remember an article a few years ago that calculated that right about 60% of the players in the NHL were taken in the first two rounds, and an overwhelming percentage of the star players. 60% of the league from the first two rounds and then 40% from the remaining five rounds and undrafted free agency. For the most part those impact players are identified and taken within those first 60 picks. Of course guys always slip for a variety of reasons but overall the early rounds are where you get the difference-makers.

 

[nyr2k2]

Adam Edstrom first 12 games: 0 goals, 1 assist, -5, 8 SOG, 10 hits
Adam Edstrom last 6 games: 3 goals, 2 assists, +5, 7 SOG, 9 hits

 

[cheech70]

Adam Edstrom first 12 games: 0 goals, 1 assist, -5, 8 SOG, 10 hits
Adam Edstrom last 6 games: 3 goals, 2 assists, +5, 7 SOG, 9 hits

 

[nyr2k2]

He's too physical for the SHL. Honestly. I don't mean that as an insult to the SHL, it's just how the game is called there. I think when he comes over here you can kind of take the shackles off and he'll be a goddamn beast.

 

[RangersFan1994]

He's too physical for the SHL. Honestly. I don't mean that as an insult to the SHL, it's just how the game is called there. I think when he comes over here you can kind of take the shackles off and he'll be a goddamn beast.

Should have played junior hockey Instead of staying in Europe.

 

[NYR Viper]

Should have played junior hockey Instead of staying in Europe.

I disagree with this. I like where he is because at his size, the fact that he’s playing against men and playing well is better. I kind of wish he was in the AHL this season but so it goes.

The other path that MAY have been good for him is NCAA but I’m not a fan of a guy who skates like he does and is as strong as he is going juniors. He’d run people over and not work on the finer points of the game.

 

[Raspewtin]

Should have played junior hockey Instead of staying in Europe.

he aged out of junior hockey two years ago

 

[Mugless]

 

[Roo Returns]

Adam Edstrom first 12 games: 0 goals, 1 assist, -5, 8 SOG, 10 hits
Adam Edstrom last 6 games: 3 goals, 2 assists, +5, 7 SOG, 9 hits

Edstrom has senioritus. He's that kid who got accepted to college (in this case an ELC with the Rangers) and is putting in minimal effort to graduate.

He can do nothing the rest of the year. All he has to do is show up in peak shape next summer and he's going to push for a spot on the fourth line.

He can literally work on PK read this season and if he can add that to his arsenal, a spot with the Rangers is waiting.

 

[eco's bones]

He better be better although most thought Fogarty was the next Dom Moore. Personally he was not given much of a shot here. sadly his progression stopped after college in my opinion. Should have made it as a tough guy with his lack of offensive skills of any kind,

Fogarty never put up big numbers at Notre Dame. His most productive year was his senior year and he put up 23 points in 37 games and that was 7th best on his team. That doesn't mean he was bad but his college coach groomed him to be his team's checking center and Notre Dame (at least then) was a defensive more than offensive minded team anyway.

Once he reached Hartford it took Fogarty a few years to build a pretty decent AHL production game. He was never going to be a Moore who was a smaller but faster, more uptempo and more in your face kind of player and these things really aren't in Fogarty's wheelhouse. I think some people don't realize what a real nasty piece of work Moore could be to play against. Little things like that though can make a difference in a players career. Most players don't have that in them.

All that said Fogarty's had a good career. He's a real pro and every once in a while he does get some NHL games.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Fogarty never put up big numbers at Notre Dame. His most productive year was his senior year and he put up 23 points in 37 games and that was 7th best on his team. That doesn't mean he was bad but his college coach groomed him to be his team's checking center and Notre Dame (at least then) was a defensive more than offensive minded team anyway.

Once he reached Hartford it took Fogarty a few years to build a pretty decent AHL production game. He was never going to be a Moore who was a smaller but faster, more uptempo and more in your face kind of player and these things really aren't in Fogarty's wheelhouse. I think some people don't realize what a real nasty piece of work Moore could be to play against. Little things like that though can make a difference in a players career. Most players don't have that in them.

All that said Fogarty's had a good career. He's a real pro and every once in a while he does get some NHL games.

Personally I thought Fogarty had Blair Betts upside

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I disagree with this. I like where he is because at his size, the fact that he’s playing against men and playing well is better. I kind of wish he was in the AHL this season but so it goes.

The other path that MAY have been good for him is NCAA but I’m not a fan of a guy who skates like he does and is as strong as he is going juniors. He’d run people over and not work on the finer points of the game.

If they had signed Edström the same off-season as Henriksson, he would have been AHL eligible this season. By waiting another year, they had no choice but to loan him back to Rögle.

Next season he will 100% be in Hartford and with him and Rempe, it's going to be interesting to see how they hold up.